I heard the regular PureTrak Talent increases your LOD (lift off distance) quite a bit.

Does the white version lower it, and if so, how much?

I don't really want to use the tape trick.

Currently I'm using a G400 on an Artisan Shidenkai (strawberry/milk color) and the LOD on it is very low, but the G400 has tracking issues on it for extremely fast movements (flick shots).

So now I need a super slick, fast, and frictionless mousepad with a very low LOD.

Do you guys recommend the PureTrak Talent WHITE Special Edition Soft Cloth Mouse Pad or should I be looking for something else?

Are there any good hybrid pads out there, similar to the Shidenkai but with no tracking issues? How about the Xtrac Hybrid, anyone know anything about it?

My SteelSeries 4HD is worn out, and in certain spots have turned glossy. This is a combo of it wearing out, plus being so rough that it actually makes the teflon from my mouse feet/discs transfer to the pad.

Plus the pad is just too rough. It completely kills your mouse feet. Not only that, I've already gone through 20 teflon mouse discs with it.

Anyway, I'm thinking of getting an I-2. It really appeals to me because of it's low lift off distance (LOD) and the smoothness of it - i.e. not destroying my mouse feet, and the durability.

Has anyone use this mousepad with the G400? How is the tracking with a G400 or similar mouse?

I hear the lift off distance is extremely low with this mousepad, which is great for me since I lift a lot. Does the white version have a lower LOD then the black version?

Also, does the black version track any better than the white version?

I think I'm going to get some CS Hyde Teflon Mouse Tape to preserve the mouse feet on my G400. I heard this tape works good on the I-2. Anyone have any experience with it or other teflon tape/discs/feet?

tl;dr -
1. Is it smooth?
2. Will it preserve your mouse feet?
3. How durable is it?
4. Does it work well w/ the G400?
5. Does the black version track better then the white version?
6. Does the white version have lower lift off distance?
7. How low is the lift off distance in general?

Thanks in advance.

I need to get a new mouse pad.

I currently have a SteelSeries 4HD, and while it lowers the LOD (Lift Off Distance) on my G400 quite significantly, the mouse pad is worn out now, plus it's just way too rough, and the roughness and friction wear down my mouse feet very fast and easily.

So I need a new mouse pad, that also lowers the LOD, but that is smooth as butter, with zero friction.

Can anyone suggest anything?

Thanks in advance! :)

Does anyone know anything about this company and their gear?

I'm specifically wondering about their mice, but it'd be nice to know if their mouse pads, keyboards, headsets, etc. were good/bad too.

I am a right-handed FPS player currently using a DeathAdder 3.5g @ 3500 DPI and 1000 Hz polling rate, with a Windows pointer sensitivity of 5.5 and an overall sensitivity of 1.5 (as listed in the driver software), and fairly low sensitivity settings in all games.

I use a fingertip grip exactly as described here: http://www.razerzone.com/mouseguide/ergonomic/fingertipgrip

I only use my fingers and wrist to move the mouse, but mostly my fingers. I don't move my arm at all.

I constantly lift my mouse to reposition it without moving my crosshair.

My DA is starting to screw up. It's double clicking and releasing without my consent. It's time to get a new mouse.

I'm seriously contemplating getting the new G400 (the new version people claim has no prediction/angle snapping).

I have never considered the DA a great design for players that constantly lift their mouse to reposition without moving the crosshair. The lack of grooves on the side and the glossiness are the main culprits, plus the high LOD.

I fixed the LOD problem by switching to a SteelSeries 4HD mousepad, but hard mousepads really wear down the mouse feet, and I'm constantly putting new mouse feet on my DA. I use CS Hyde Extended Life Teflon Mouse Discs, because they feel really good, but I've never used any other mouse feet and was wondering if there are some that last longer than these.

Ideally I would like to use a cloth mousepad to prevent some of the wear and tear. How long do original mouse feet last on a clothpad compared to a hardpad? As fast as I grind down mouse feet on this 4HD, I never ever use the original mouse feet, I always put new mouse feet over top of the existing mouse feet, even if the mouse is brand new. It'd be really nice not having to do this.

I originally used a Qck+ pad, but it basically doubled or tripled my LOD compared to the 4HD.

So, if I did decide to get the G400, would I still have to use a hard/black mousepad to prevent tracking while repositioning the mouse?

How does the G400 fair for fingertip grip users? The sides seem like they would be great for lifting.

How much does the G400 weigh in comparison to the DA 3.5g? The lighter the better.

I'm really picky about the cord. Honestly, I would prefer to use a wireless mouse, but there are no wireless mice that compare to the top wired mice. The more unobtrusive the cord, the better. Being a fingertip grip player, if you get a mouse with a crappy cord, it can really screw up your aim. It needs to be as thin, light, and flexible as possible. Basically a cord you can't even feel. I wish more companies would realize how detrimental a bad cord can be to fingertip grip users.

I sometimes let the cord drape over top of my keyboard, to make my cord seem more weightless. That's how picky I can be about my cord. I was thinking about getting a Razer Mouse Bungee Mouse Cord Management System, but I would probably find a problem with that, too. Plus I don't know anyone that has one, and I've never heard of anyone talking about them. Anyone use one?

Being a long time FPS player (had Wolfenstein for DOS), I thought the gaming mouse industry would have come much further, much quicker than they have, but there are still obvious, fundamental problems "gaming" companies still refuse to address. /rantoff

Anywhoot, I need a mouse that has a virtually perfect sensor (no acceleration, no prediction, no angle snapping, awesome tracking etc.), which I consider the DA 3.5g's sensor to basically be. That's really the main reason I use the DA, plus the cord is fairly unobtrusive. But the DA's construction just feels cheap, and I use the hell out of my mouse, the hell out of it. Last one I had, I broke the side mouse button. This one I have is double clicking and sometimes releasing when it shouldn't.

Any mouse I get has to have, at least, five buttons.

I have heard good things about the Zowie AM, but I have heard if you right and left click the button simultaneously, they will clip each other. If that's the case, that'd be a deal-breaker for me, because I play Tribes Ascend and I'm constantly simultaneously clicking both buttons. Not to mention it looks like my ring finger might rest directly on top of the left-side buttons. Also I'm not sure how well the design is for fingertip grip users. Plus I don't think the Zowie AM has the DPI and polling rates that I use.

I was thinking about getting the CM Spawn, but I hear the cord is super thick and obtrusive, which is a deal-breaker, and I hear you have to use a specific DPI + polling rate combo to get optimal results.

So I'm seriously considering getting the new G400. Based on all the personal information I gave you guys, do you think this would be a wise decision?

One concern about the G400 I have is what this guy says at the end of his video review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8vlwQ8A-c

He says, on the Enotus Mouse Test, the G400 performed poorly in the "smoothness" test. Knowing absolute nothing about the Enotus Mouse Test, or a smoothness test, I don't really know what to make of this. But the reviewer downplays this information as, almost, not important based upon his actual use of the mouse.

I could always get the DA 3.5g Black, and the rubber sides might make the DA easier to lift and reposition quickly, but I really want to try something else.

Overall, I'm leaning towards the new G400, but I'm hesitant to get one, at the moment, because I'm afraid I might end up with one of the old ones. Has enough time passed to assume it'd be safe to order one from newegg, amazon, or a similar website? I live in the U.S. Also, I wouldn't be purchasing my new mouse from a store, it would definitely be online.

So that's as much personal information, as I can think of, to give you guys to help me decide what I should get. Any help, suggestions, opinions, and comments are very much appreciated and I thank you all for your help and time.

Well, before I got my DeathAdder I was using a Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2.0.

I know, yuck, wireless mouse! But it actually worked pretty good.

Anyway, I never used a mouse pad with it, still tracked fine.

Well, not using a mouse pad for such a long time, I had no idea how much a mouse pad can increase lift-off distance (LOD) on a mouse.

So I order a black steelseries qck pad with my DA, because I wanted to use a mouse pad with my new mouse instead of just on my pull out drawer like I use to.

Well, I'm a low sensitivity FPS player, and I constantly pick up my mouse. Didn't even realize how often I pick up my mouse until I get the DA, and I pick it up a ton.

Well, this makes playing my games impossible while using the combo of the DA and the qck pad, so now I only use my qck pad for surfing.

Well, from what I can tell the DA tracks fine without a mouse pad.

I guess it depends on what your desk is made out of, but can anyone else confirm this, for peace of mind?

Anyway, what mouse pad would you guys suggest I get for my situation?

I love the qck pad, but apparently black cloth pads increase LOD more then any, so apparently I got the worse mouse pad I could possibly get, LOL.

So not only does cloth or hard matter, but it seems color does as well, but I'm not sure to what extent of either.

So, ideally, I would like to have a nice cloth pad, similar to the qck pad, but white.

My question is, will the white color be enough to reduce the LOD, or will I have to go hard?

Im guessing the ultimate LOD reducer would be a white hard pad.

I would rather have a cloth pad, but if I have to get a hard one that's what I'll do.

My buddy suggested this forum when I was asking him about LOD.

Any suggestions/help is very much appreciated.

Thanks.