but, if you lose in practice, you learn only to lose, not to win!

basiclly, as long as you're not top32 player, you should always play to win. this will teach you when to be aggressive and when to be not so aggressive [cooller quote, i expect pluses. shitload of them]

trying to keep your frag advantage will teach you how to play defensive etc etc.

if you got these elements in your game, you can start praccing praccing. playing out of control for whole game, being a rail whore, making traps etc etc.


just remember to leave your ego in the closet

Although you're mainly right.... it's usefull to think about different ideas during practise.

For instance: You can practise to play a more agressive style than you usually do. Or you can try to focus more on item times / switching item cycles / etc.. Play more rocket/lg/rail/plasma based than usual.

Usually in an official you try to play your own style and have your own way of reasoning through things.... but in practise it's often very usefull to think about different things.
By doing so your own style will become more versatile in the long run.
Example you somewhat know how to speed up a game (needed in an official if you're behind and fighting the clock). Or know how you can set up a trap with a plasma. etc.

I agree. That's why the phrase "stop whining it's just practice" is idiotic. It's precisely official games with something on the line where you're fully justified to play like a fag and run for 8 minutes.

Practice in my opinion is well spent when you try to hone the most difficult aspects of the game, i.e. locking the map for the player in control or challenging big items and going for efficient damage at big items for the player out of it.

But I guess for many it's way more important to get a meaningless W and +5 ELO points.

OK, If this thread is about noob-bashing to get a few Elo points i get the idea. However, if it's people taking practice matches serious and doing their best to win, then really i don't understand the whine.

As you wrote
"That's why the phrase "stop whining it's just practice" is idiotic. It's precisely official games with something on the line where you're fully justified to play like a fag and run for 8 minutes. "

But if you want to be a fag and run for 8 minutes in an official match succesfully, you will need some kind of practice of it. And why not practice it when it seems like the best option to do, rather than just doing the "THIS WEEK I WILL PRACTICE BEING FAG" or "THIS WEEK I ONLY USE RAILGUN" what exactly are you going to accomplish by doing this? Finding out that railgun isn't the best weapon in 75% of all encounters, surprise!

You can focus on some aspects of your gamestyle for sure, but you won't learn anything from just playing in one way the whole time.

Imo i learn the most when i play against equally or above skilled opponents and doing the best i can at all times to win - even if i have to be a pussy some times, not just +forward and lose all matches because its just practice.

Given the current mappool, it's only toxicity where it's diffucult to get 100/150 without confronting the enemy. On other maps it's fairly easy and if you get 100/150 it's easy to +back if that's the only thing you're interested in. Nothing to spend months practicing. Unless there's a 500 ELO difference between players, in which case the only thing that's easy for the worse player is respawning.

Not to mention how fun it is to sit in the corridor between LG and the 50hp bubble for 8 straight minutes waiting for the enemy to rush you so that you can plonk 2 rockets in his face and carry on with your business of running away as he replenishes his health.

That's a hypothetical situation btw (albeit a frequent one), not me raging after a loss. I've luckily learnt to barely rage in duel when I understood that to get to the top you basically have to play a style almost antithetical to Quake.

How is dying every 15 seconds because i rush with 100/0 and no weapons against 200/200 gonna learn me how to play quake?

My most sincere apologies. For one second I thought you wanted to have a somewhat serious discussion. But if you put it this way, the only adequate response from me can be this:

Someone seems to be butthurt about having too low Elo :)

i think we need to reevaluate that second asshole idea, could be useful.

I think qlranks should only track private matches in team modes.

Bad philosophy. Winning is everything.