4 pool... Those were the days...

jaedong did it against some terran @ 2009, can't remember the nick ;D

Yes, but back in the day, it was WAY easier. It was both crazy aggressive, and economically viable.

hehe true true

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I felt like a cool dude writing this, so it wasnt wasted at all :p
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So should id software reduce lg damage in Quake 3 and increase rocket speed to 1000ups? I think they should.

No, reduce LG without speeding up the rockets.

Yeah lg damage should definitely be reduced but not by much.

I watched rapha vs dkt games live and I swear 80-90% of raphas kills were lg kills. More than what you get in a typical qw duel. When you have 2 equally good players in qw you get about 50/50 rl/lg kills.

LG is definitely not overpowered in qw because you have awesome air control, rl is super fast and powerful plus armours are MUCH stronger.

Anyway CQ3 is the solution but pro players and tourneys won't use it for some reason.

pro players wont play it cause tournaments dont use it, tournaments dont use it cause its not getting played.

Perhaps the reason its not getting played is because your average player can't shaft as good as pros so lg kills are not as high. Which means people think the balance is right?

But then you put 2 pros on a map and all you see is shaft whoring :D

Is it to late for ESWC to use CQ3?

It's really that it's not ID ENDORSED. If id patched Quake 3 and had something like that labelled as Competition Gameplay it'd have a much higher chance of acceptance, the community in all games is really lead by what's considered official. WIth QL around there's not much point now but it'd certainly be an improvement, though CQ3 still needs some things sorting out.

awesome history lesson thanks for that :)

At the end you say that people will wait 10 years for blizzard to perfect its game.

Times change. People won't wait another 10 years for a game to get perfect. They are used to a game which is perfect already, there were no alternatives back then. If it's not the 'same' as the older version, it will be hated by a lot of the 'oldskool' players. New people might love it but they are not the competitive ones (Mainly).

Look at UT2004/UT3, Q3/Q4, BF1942/BF2, CS1.6/CSS, etc, etc...

From oldskool fungames to whiney, spoiled shits. This is how I see it.

The movie was pretty cool though, enjoyed watching it. I hope SC2 turns out a hit. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

luckyfool is an awesome guy. did anyone watch that sc2gg match with him and ero?

On SC2: I wonder if it will be just as popular from a competitive pov. Really there is no need to replace SC1 in that sense. It could possible use a (minor?) graphics overhaul without hurting visual clarity or perhaps improving it.

Starcraft has the luck that is has become a sort of national sport in korea and other smaller communities have really had the benefit from that because korea is a reason for blizzard to keep supporting the game to the extent that they have.

This should inspire ID software to keep busy with QL. The Quake Live website could offer a great platform for a well maintained competitive fast-paced FPS. ID has shown to look past some of the conservative tendencies of the Quake community and adjust some gameplay issues (rail, LG).

They should consider pushing new maps though, perhaps by removing some maps or some big competitions should have the guts to do that and not succumb to community pressure (pro's will still go to a tournament with proper prize money despite not being able to play ztn and dm6 i think).

You see, new players arent troubled by ZTN and DM6 nostalgia (not saying either of these are neccesarily bad maps btw).

Oh well, I think the future is bright for Quake Live as long as id is willing to maintain it. There is so much left to achieve and improve with the website!

The issue with SC2 is that we aren't really running out of things to do with SC. There are still new strats coming out every day. SC2, so long as it's as balanced as SC, will basically just be like getting new maps - it's just something to keep the game fresh.

KESPA is fighting pretty hard against Blizzard right now, so nobody really knows how it's going to play out.

the thing with starcraft is that its so dominant in korean culture that even young kids will start playing it despite it being an old game. It has a unique position in that it has risen above other videogames as in that its aging element has been somewhat removed and only gameplay and its role as a platform for competition counts, and at that, its one of the greatest