if you want to try the EC1, get the new cooller version (LOL) of it.
you will have to try for yourself anyways.

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_31214.html

£50.00, No thanks.

What's the difference vs Zowie AM

it's an EC1? :D


it's like the EC1 evo, but with the improved coating of the zowie FK and a scrollwheel with 24 instead 16 positions.

g400s

ive got big hands too. if you dont RELY on an ambidextrous mouse, i heavily recommend to give it a try at least. 500-1000hz without overclocking is a given, same as a flawless sensor. oh and the liftoff-distance is low as well.

i've been using a deathadder before, and it was really limiting my aim. couldnt grab the mouse properly, haha. but the g400s fits like a glove.

Kana is not ambidextrous either :) it doesn't matter to me. This looks like a good mouse. Do you happen to know if any good players are using it?

you'll be the first "good one" to use it, how cool is that!? definitely cooller than going for it after someone)

some pro tdm'ers use it, yes. none of the duelists afaik tho

CM Xornet with v.75 firmware had low lod and no jitter at 500dpi. Its also 7cm wide so will fit in big hands.
EC1 EVO or new CL version are also good @ 2300 or 1150dpi.

Dont be fooled by g400 appearance its for tiny woman hands. Mouse is ~5cm wide where you hold it.

bashing the g400s, but recommending the CM Xornet. OK

anyway. with big hands, its about the length of the mouse, not the width, silly.

And why Xornet is bad in your opinion? Dont see how 3.0 m/s can be a problem for non ultra low sensitivity players.

"anyway. with big hands, its about the length of the mouse, not the width, silly."

makes no sense
even with palmgrip its 0.5cm short in length

because i never heard of it ;-D

jokes aside, the g400s got the mx518 shell. the ergonomical one. its by far the best for anyone who uses palm-grip. that said, i use palm-grip. thats why i rate it that highly

g400s, zowie
your choice

I got an ec1(evo ofc). It's flawless I'd say(unless you consider low LOD a flaw, which you don't) so it just comes down to shape which I'm sure you know. Have you played with an IE3? It's almost identical shape-wise but there is the bonus that you can select glossy/mat finish. From my experience with my IE3(which had both gloss/mat surfaces) the glossy part always gripped more than the mat and the mat finish wore out with time so I got the glossy(white) ec1 and I have no regrets.

wmo + get new windows

kana v2
EC evo cl

Wait for bst mouse. :)

When will it be out?

lol

December 2013 - Janurary 2014

All the "new" ZOWIE evo EC1/EC2/FK/CL mouses seem to fit your needs perfectly. You just have to decide wich one fits your hand best. I replaced my IME 3.0 (had 3 of them in the last 10 years) with the evo EC1 and never looked back.

WMO
intellimouse 1.1.
inteliimouse 3.0.
Abyssus
Deathadder
G400 lub G400s
Zowie EC1/2 evo
Zowie FK
Zowie AM
Zowie CL

? ;p

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/el...02size.jpg
http://s24.postimg.org/a64qxwg3p/20130910_103727.jpg

oh cool pic :) the mouse in the middle, is that an EC1 or EC2?

The yellow one is zowie FK.

g400s
Some zowie thing
IE 3.0/WMO

NOT razer.

http://static.esportsea.com/global/images/con.../10267.png

(zowie mice comparison)

Thanks everyone, I ordered the Zowie EC1 evo CL (cooller) :)!

good choice =)

i'm a bit disappointed, i thougth there would be a picture of him on the mouse at least.

Should have built-in ¦] bind.

good choice.

so, are u happy with it?

Its good i guess... not a mouse expert but it feels decent. I have days where i hit everything with it and i have days where i hit absolutely nothink with it, same with every otherml mouse i owned.

is just mouse

Mice are like wine to me. All mice taste/feel the same.

I cant tell if the sensor is bad or any of the other stuff. I can only tell if its comfy and after I have adjusted the sensitivity they all feel so similar.

I'm not saying they are similar but I'm so scrubby I dont think I can tell if a mouse is bad apart from its shape.

I use a g400s and a wmo right now and they both feel good.

Used a g9x and a g300 before that and they felt good too.

Used a mouse I found under my stairs before that and you guessed it, felt good. I think I need to learn how to set them up properly or something.

you can certainly tell input lag. try a wireless mouse...

Probably. I've never owned a wireless one though.