tbh just forget about doom, wait another decade for a new quake instead

Let's see how modable it will be. Of course the stock game will not be what we are looking for but that's fine. Doom was never that multiplayer game anyhow IMHO (yeah, I know about doom1 MP history and such but come on).

Maybe there is some joy to be had. Though I agree it wont be our next big competetive deathmatch game for sure.

(yeah, I know about doom1 MP history and such but come on)

The thing is that it was super-awesome. Perhaps because we had high end PCs in the office that time (I think everybody had 486DX at least when Doom arrived), but it just blown our minds.
It was fast and fluid and a lot of fun. You have to look at it in its own time, how ahead it was compared to everything. Later you could have expected more from id (like better story, ai, etc), but at the time doom1 arrived, it was nearly a perfect computer game experience.
I remember we started playing 4 player coop after work on Friday and actually had to go to the street and ask if it's really Monday morning already because it felt like a 6-7 hours long session.
Quake 1 was also a lot of fun, but nothing compares to Doom1 in its own time.. really.

Which willl be de disapointment because the engine will feel like shit. There will be some tournaments, and after 3 years it will be fully fixed by the community, but even then it will just feel inferior to Q3/QL, and we'll all go back to it because one cannot avoid the obvious for that long.

Unless whatever pro-mode version of Doom the community makes as well as the maps can be promoted properly on the main snapmaps sharing page AND fully agreed upon by the community (no bitching about which pro-mode is the best) it will run the risk of just being a tiny community until everyone goes back to the default Arena fps game at that time.

They did mention in the past about there being a place to share snap map creations. Having Doom pro-mod on there would be a great start to making it be accessible. Not having "Doom Pro-mod" and "Doom Tournament mod" and "Doom Competitive Mod" and "Doom comp mod" all in the same list would be good too

So we either need all that shit OR for iD just to go ahead and make a competitively viable set of patches to the PC version after release.

I can have fun on a <10 playerbase comp mod of Doom 4 for a long time, but I'd rather it turned out to be some sort of success

Doom excitement level just went from about a 5/10 to 3/10.

i think syncerror said that he was more excited about his own project he was working on then Doom, i guess this is why. He already knew this was not going to be THE multiplayer game.

What is syncerror working on ? Probably nothing of any significance, most hopes and dreams of this young 31 year old(me) is no longer , odd =p