hippie

sup

i prefer the essences of dr pepper!!

mine once exploded

lol while waiting for the post redirect i realized that sentence can be interpreted in 2 ways

coke > pepsi

vanilla soda > *

true that

h2o > all

have to agree here, but not distilled H2O sorry :>

whats the difference?

distilled water makes ur kidneys go crazy, u might turn yellow and stink like pee if you drink too much of it

are you serious? i dont understand.. how come? i looked up wiki but ... doesnt really say much about this side effect.

i read it somewhere, guy was selling a water filter that was supposed to make it superclean but it made it almost like distilled and this was supposedly the result on one of the victims

there are differences
try wiener water and then try niederösterreich water
i think you'll be pleasently surprised
:P

agreed, also enjoy the high quality of water in salzburg when i drive home.
however, here in vienna there's also a huge difference from district to district, as there are three different water supply systems (Hochquelle I, II, Wasswerk Lobau)

you're way over my water education, man

which bezirk is which supplier, give more info if you have it

this is probably the best starting point for your search:
http://www.wien.gv.at/wienwasser/qualitaet/pruefung.html

and here's a picture of the water supply and its origins:
http://www.wien.gv.at/wienwasser/images/hql-plan.gif

however, I couldn' find a complete overview of the districts and the according water supply - the ones I know about is only through the talk with people and hence not verified information. I'm gonna look more into it tho.

geek

ain't lobau wassi only in 21 and 22. and the rest got hochquell?

maybe 2 and 20 got shit water too

:?

i have to agree!

Vanilla Coke =]

They still sell that crap in the US? Tasted like a captain morgan and coke mix.

Yeah. Have you tried Black Cherry Vanilla Coke? Now that's amazing =].

Nah haven't tried that one :o

I have tried Diet Caffeinefree Black Cherry Vanilla and I have to admit it was just as bad as the normal kind.

the new Diet Pepsi line called "Jazz" has a black cherries and cream soda, and i have to say, after having tasted every soda in the common marketplace (seriously), that's the best tasting imo.

I saw it when i was on vacation, but in diet only =[. And I dont drink diet =].

afaik, Jazz only comes in diet which suits me just fine as i don't normally drink regular soda (too sweet for me nowadays)

hmmm, diet Jizzz for ladies ? xD

lol =)

not really, it's hard to find nowadays, which is disheartening =(

ROOT BEER

bring it back in the uk! plx! =[

Why not just buy some cough mixture and put it in the fridge?
tastes the same.

not rly ! :x

dumb ass the hell are you on about ?

hahshaha

I don't get it, everytime I see your random comments/trolls however stupid they are, they put a smile on my face. :<

if i didnt have flu id kiss you.

Pepsi + ice > *

oh ye!

beer > soft drinks

my thought exactly but just to point out coke>pepsi

you guys drink soda and alcohol. that's disgusting and useless.
all you're doing is making yourselves fat, dependent on products (and brand names of large corporations that expected that very thing from you), and extremely unhealthy.
congratulations.

why don't you go trumpet your favorite brand names somewhere else, you happy consumer!!

sorry, which expected*

Your old flames were better, getting older? =(

I'm not flaming anyone. you think it's not pathetic to be dependent on useless products which provide your body with wasted calories to enjoy yourself?

i drink Diet sodas (no calories =P) but of course, water's better etc.

how is icetea, health-wise?

I really don't know. I do believe that tea has a high caffeine content, though, which I wouldn't be in favor of, myself.
personally, I just drink water, and I love it immensely.

it's very easy to consume a horde of calories from beverages, because they're useless calories* that you don't even recognize the existence of, and the natural instinct isn't to expect beverage or water to be a source of energy.

* note that by calories i mean kilocalories. further note that i do not know anything about the molecular structure of alcohol or its nutritional value, but i do know that is a depressant, and i do know that it has 7 calories per gram, whereas good proteins and carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram.
note, again, that carbohydrates from sodas are 100% sugar and preservative.

the problem is people sit on their ass all day instead of burning calories. the basic and only truth about diets is that if you exercise properly 3 times a week you can eat and drink whatever the fuck you want and be healthy.

no, that's not true at all.

exercise has very little to do with being healthy, and, still yet, little to do with being 'fit,' which is what I suspect you truly mean by "healthy" (there is a big difference between the two).

people who think that exercise is the key to being fit are not misguided, they are just brainwashed by corporations.
that is the way it is in america. corporations push 'exercise' products everywhere you go, so that the average person completely forgets that diet is what's important, and start thinking that exercise is what changes your body composition.

for instance, i once had an exchange with my grandmother that went something like this:

g: you've lost weight
m: mumble
g: how do you do it?
g: you must workout, right?
m: um.. yea

note that she did not mention anything about diet.
(note also the common misconception between "weight" and 'fat')
it is quite amusing, too, when you look at the people who perpetuate this myth. pot? kettle? seriously. these people have never been fit in their life.

while exercise can result in a change in physical composition, there is a very simple rule which you should understand:

your metabolism is the primary user of energy in your body.
everyone has a basal metabolic rate, which is the 'basic' number of calories they burn in a day without doing anything else.

this number is usually somewhere around 2000.

if you are consuming 2500 calories per day--an excess of 500 calories--then you will gain one pound of fat in one week.

excess calories are stored as fat.

if you scale back your caloric intake to 2000 calories per day, you will maintain your body composition.

if you scale back your caloric intake to 1500 calories per day, you will lose one pound of (most likely) fat in one week.

how do I know this? well, conservation of energy.
if you are consuming less calories than your basal metabolic rate (the amount of calories you will burn without performing any activity), then you will have a deficit of calories. they'll need to be gathered, in order to sustain your bodily functions, from mass.

let it be known that you can lose muscle mass (and others) as well as fat mass, but that the loss of fat mass is very much more likely to occur, especially if you are obese.

now imagine that you consume 2500 calories per day, and we see that you need to "burn" 1000 calories through exercise.
that may be bad enough for some, but we've just scratched the surface.

the fact is that exercise is pretty inefficient at burning 'fat.'
this only happens with certain kinds of exercises, enacted at certain heart rates.
and if you don't do this exercise nearly as soon as you rise, a lot of the calories you burn are likely to come from gylcogen stores, or carbohydrates.

some health professionals also believe that it takes a minimum of twenty minutes of cardiovascular exercise before 'fat burning' kicks in. I'm not inclined to believe them, but it's worth note.

in effect, you are doing much more work with exercise, to achieve even remotely similar results (because exercise is an inefficient method for this purpose), and I haven't even gotten to the point.

you're still getting, most likely, lots of saturated fats, trans fatty acids, sugars (simple carbohydrates), and just a large ratio of fat and alcohol (in some cases) to good carbohydrates and proteins.
your appearance may have improved, but you're no healthier than you were.

the very nature of a low calorie diet has some implication on the kinds of foods you consume, though it is not necessary to (I can consume 2000 calories of fried chicken, if that's what I want, and I'll still maintain my weight - but is that healthy?).

for instance, simple carbohydrates (sugars) are called simple because their molecular makeup is simple. they are very easy to digest and disperse energy over a short period of time, as opposed to their complex carbohydrate kin, which include dietary fibers (good for helping keep you "regular," and good for 'lowering your cholesterol,' depending upon whether we're talking about soluble or insoluble fiber). complex carbohydrates have a .. complex .. makeup, and, so, they're digested slowly, giving out energy over a more even period of time.

the end result is that you don't feel hungry immediately after consuming complex carbohydrates, as opposed to simple carbohydrates.

fats and alcohols have more energy per gram than do carbohydrates and proteins, as well, which means that you will feel hungry when you have consumed less of each, but will have gained more energy (the excess of which will be converte to mass - fatty mass).

so, I guess what I'm saying is that diet is a major component of being fit, and it's the ONLY component to being truly healthy.
if you want to be fit, the obvious thing to do is a combination of both diet and exercise.

if you want to be healthy, you should do both as well, because in some respects, fitness is an aspect of health, but fitness does not define health.

thanks for the insight. you know, i would love to get a single book about the fundamentals of diet, weight and fitness. there is so much specialised information out there that it's overwhelming to try and educate yourself from scratch. anyone have a recommendation?

that's the thing, isn't it? diets change with the weather. in 10 years someone's gonna say macrobiotics is unhealthy or a high-carb diet is the way to go, then in 10 years you should cut down on the carbs again... apparently, not a single person knows what diets really work.

sitting on your ass 24/7 will make you weak whatever you eat. getting exercise will prohibit muscle decay, bone decay and increase circulation. if being stronger, have more stamina, and keeping the ticker ticking isn't healthy, i don't know what is.

diets change with the weather. in 10 years someone's gonna say macrobiotics is unhealthy or a high-carb diet is the way to go, then in 10 years you should cut down on the carbs again... apparently, not a single person knows what diets really work.

that's because no "diet" really works. getting into shape is a lifestyle change, and not a temporary regimen you follow by changing one or two items you consume.
the problem here is that you are listening to marketers, not true changes in diet.

of course marketing groups want you to believe that their particular "diet plan" will change the way you look, and, of course, none of them will. why? because they want you to come back for more.
"oh, that plan didn't work.. hey, look, there's this new diet on television honey come look!!!!!!!!!"
what they don't tell you is that diet is sponsored by the same corporation.

the only way to lose fat is to burn more calories than you consume. it is a rather simple rule.
just because you are misinformed about diet and exercise does not mean that exercise is a panacea for being fat.
that's what other corporations want you to think, as well, so that they can sell your their exercise products while still keeping you fat off of their massive cheeseburgers.

sitting on your ass 24/7 will make you weak whatever you eat.

well, I've been sitting on my ass for two months, but I can still bench press the same amount that I could then.

getting exercise will prohibit muscle decay, bone decay and increase circulation.

bone decay is a fact of life. it is something that can and will occur, progressively, as you get older.
it is impossible to prohibit this without a ground breaking development in biology, which has yet to occur.
muscle loss progresses in a very similar fashion.
in fact, if exercise is done improperly, you are more likely to injure yourself and lose muscle mass than you are to either sustain your current muscle mass or gain more muscle mass.

if being stronger, have more stamina, and keeping the ticker ticking isn't healthy, i don't know what is.

who ever said that being stronger and having more stamina wasn't healthy?

the low carb thing is bullshit, fuck you mr Atkins

i didn't read all that shit. obviously you counter the average american "deep fried anything" with extreme diet and think it's healthy. other people eat proper food, you know.

sitting on your ass 24/7 will make you weak whatever you eat. getting exercise will prohibit muscle decay, bone decay and increase circulation. if being stronger, have more stamina, and keeping the ticker ticking isn't healthy, i don't know what is. it also combats mental fatigue, something going on a diet doesn't.

what i do know is that there are a lot of people being brainwashed by this diet and that and never eating good food, punishing themselves and feeling bad when they eat a gummy bear. that's just bullshit. there are a billion people that tried the 'counting calories' diets and found it didn't work, feeling dizzy and weak all the while.

"corporations push 'exercise' products everywhere you go" haha you're surprised those products don't work? it's pure entertainment for me watching those infomercials: "and look, it stows under the bed for easy storage!"

why not lift weights, run, play tennis, or take a swim or a ride on the bike FCOL? proper exercise, not fucking pulling some rubber straps.

what i wanted to get at was that you don't have to eat cartloads of fibre, cut your carbs in half or never drink a soda in your life to not be unhealthy. eat chicken, fish, roast beef, liver, pasta, rice, potatoes, veggies, fruit, juice - well rounded meals - and even soda and candy sometimes.

i eat all that and went from 230lbs to 175 in a couple months because I started getting some exercise. now i'm gonna eat an orange ("ooh, sugar") and two sandwiches ("ooh, carbs!") and a glass of soda.

i didn't read all that shit. obviously you counter the average american "deep fried anything" with extreme diet and think it's healthy. other people eat proper food, you know.

well, maybe you should have read my post before replying to it. you might not look like an idiot, had you done so.
it could also be educational to you. it seems that you have a lot to learn about fitness.

what i do know is that there are a lot of people being brainwashed by this diet and that and never eating good food, punishing themselves and feeling bad when they eat a gummy bear. that's just bullshit.

it is bullshit. that's because they haven't taken the time to learn what is really true about nutrition, much like yourself.

there are a billion people that tried the 'counting calories' diets and found it didn't work, feeling dizzy and weak all the while.

well, I'm sorry to tell you, but "counting calories" is the ONLY way to enact a proper diet to lose fat (weight).
if someone did this incorrectly, then maybe you should refer them to this thread so that they can learn proper diet and exercise.
I could provide you with some excellent additional reading material, if you like.

what i wanted to get at was that you don't have to eat cartloads of fibre, cut your carbs in half or never drink a soda in your life to not be unhealthy. eat chicken, fish, roast beef, liver, pasta, rice, potatoes, veggies, fruit, juice - well rounded meals - and even soda and candy sometimes.

that is true. i wonder what made you say this? it's almost as though you think i'm disagreeing with you here. that is odd.

i eat all that and went from 230lbs to 175 in a couple months because I started getting some exercise. now i'm gonna eat an orange ("ooh, sugar") and two sandwiches ("ooh, carbs!") and a glass of soda.

the reason that you went from 230lb (not "lbs") to 175 in a couple of months (7 pounds per week is massive! you should see a doctor. you've probably injured yourself!) is because you started burning more calories than you consume.
it does not matter what you ate, but your heart can still fail since you've probably been ingesting an insubordinate amount of saturated fats and trans fatty acids.

Well I take drugs and they are free of any advertising :D

Drinking something you enjoy is useless? Waaaah

no. drinking something you enjoy for that purpose alone is useless.
all that sodas and alcohol do is provide you with excess calories and stimulants/depressants that make you dependent on them.
i would definitely qualify that as useless.
waah.

waaah?

stop doing Moe impressions :P

I don't get it "thou shall not drink!" ? I enjoy three days a week parties and fuck off with all this "healthy" shit ;]

thou shalt not drink is a message from the lord. you can disobey but you will never know why you fainted on the day you hit 39 years old. people that abstain from it will.

-dzi.

wOw CYBORG INFILTRATION OF ESR!!!

Go and run or cycle or do some other aerobic exercise hard for three or more hours then drink a soft drink and tell me they're completely useless afterwards. At that point you'd eat any food. They have their uses.

if you're running for three hours, then you're definitely harming your body and overtraining.
now, if i were cycling for three hours, i'd drink water afterward, and maybe something like gatorade.

and i'd still tell you they were completely useless.
i didn't drink anything when i ran 2 miles every day (in 15 minutes). maybe a tiny sip of water afterward.
now, that isn't quite three hours of work, but it's intense (time / distance), and i'd do stationary bike, and sometimes even free weights, on the same day as well.

free weights... okay, I won't comment...

don't let me stop you.

proper exercise is exercising until you get a sweat patch on your t-shirt. if you want to know if you exercised hard enough to build muscles the day before, it's easy. if your muscles ache or you are stiff, your muscles got bigger yesterday. if not, you just toned what you had.

you have no idea what you are talking about.

just reiterating some practical guidelines i learned from my friend Tomas for judging whether you really did some training or was just fiddling around thinking that you did. if you do situps, you do them until you can't make another one, not until your watch says stop. Tomas was a top level bodybuilder in Sweden and won the bronze medal in the Swedish benchpress championships.

another friend Johan did 'two minutes of pushups', 'two minutes of situps' etc before going to school. nothing happened.

btw. that's some Spartan regimen you got going there. i could never face another morning if i knew i'd do almost a full hour of light exercise that day.

tomas may have been jesus himself, but you should stop repeating whatever thomas the tank engine tells you and learn what the hell you're talking about before talking.

proper exercise is exercising until you get a sweat patch on your t-shirt

that is patently false. i hardly sweat at all doing anaerobic exercise. if you're talking about cardiovascular activity, then that is not necessarily true either. proper aerobic exercise is when you're at 50-75% of your maximum heart rate for a sustained period of time (most people say over twenty minutes).

if you want to know if you exercised hard enough to build muscles the day before, it's easy. if your muscles ache or you are stiff, your muscles got bigger yesterday.

muscles do not grow when you work them out. they grow when you rest. pain is not an indication of proper muscle stimulation or growth.

No. Exercise until glycogen stores in the body have depleted enough for you to feel what is commonly known as 'bonking' or 'hitting the wall'. Once you reach this point you will crave for any food. Especially foods that are rich in carbohydrate. Soft drinks have sugar. Sugar is a simple carbohydrate and is digested easy. That means the body will regenerate glycogen stores quickly. And no, I'm quite sure you wouldn't just drink water after 'hitting the wall'. If you do, you're an idiot. Combined with your choice of water, a sports drink would, of course, work. Like soft drinks they're also rich in carbohydrates. 500ml of any soft drink would probably cure the 'hitting the wall' problem (for the short term anyway) in a matter of minutes after it has been consumed. Soft drinks work for endurance sports. Off point but still notworthy is selected drinks also contain caffeine which, as studys suggest, help metabolize fats, which also helps in endurance sports. Try a bonk, it's educational.

Weight training and short distance running/sprinting is completely redundant to the point as they're anaerobic sports. Also if i'm running for three hours with proper base training, I'm not overtraining my body at all. However, you'd be correct to say someone who is insufficiently trained would be.

yes, weight training is anaerobic. that wasn't really the point. I was just trying to substantiate the amount of work that I've done, because, for the life of me, I'm sure I've never experienced this "commonly referred to as" "bonk" or whatever the hell you've called it.

I never said that I disagreed with the body wanting carbohydrates after intense aerobic exercise.
however, I'm not sure that I believe you with your "craving" ideology.

maybe I've just trained my stomach not to "crave" so much, or I just plain don't notice it, but are you saying that 20 minutes running isn't sufficient?
ok, and 30-35 minutes on the stationary bike?

I'm just finding it hard to believe you based on my own experience, until you can provide evidence to the contrary. I highly doubt that, after even the most grueling workout, I'm going to turn into a junkie.

So you tell us not to drink soda (which I only drink no sugar anyway) but you say you drink gatorade which contains on average the same carbs?

I never told anyone not to drink soda. I don't drink Gatorade, but what do you have against it? carbohydrates are the body's main source of energy.

get a life idiot

green tea rocks

I'll vouch for that!! 3 cups each day everyday always forever

why not 4?

why not 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 ? exactly.

Cause I don't have enough time :(

exact. ly

the "american" said that tea got coffeine, hmmm - I don't get it, why after fourth one I'm sleeping like a baby on prozak ?

Black tea has quite a bit coffeine -- green tea only has 1/4 of that; anyways, i've heard of people sleeping better after drinking tea, i guess there are lots of other factors playing in.

I see, here in Poland we drink a lot of tea, usually black tea. It's nothink compared to coffee xD

well some tea also contains other shit apart from caffeine... its not all black and white. especially with tea

that's what I drink too, and regular tea, and lots of milk :D

mountain dew code black > *

Pepsi is kinda OK -- to pizza.. Coca Cola is better with almost everything else.

I fail to taste the difference, I could likely tell if I tasted one then the other right after.

Coffee > *.*

:(

coffee is greater than some filename OK LOL

For us nerds, yes.


lolololol!

quake3.exe?

Definitely.

double fail

I agree that pepsi is the cola with better taste. Haven't looked into nutrisiouse facts such as sugar and phosforic acid though.

Gotta have my phosphoric acid!

PEPSI rulz da wrld!

pepsi = britney ? :x
coca = christina? :x

afri cola ftw :D

coke got christina aguilera? when?

maybe he miss-spelled cock

:D

lol

afaik before 2005

dude.. no.. just no.. oh god no.. i mean.. tf.. no..

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ > you

Anyone ever had water pure from a glacier? Has NO taste whatsoever.

it also cuts up your insides due to small diposites of grit. i'd be more worried about that, personally.

water has taste now?

Yea, spring water, distilled, ozonated or whatever the hell that is. All have traces of metals and shit. Like, compare aquafina to disano.

only shit tasting water I recall was in the Florida while on holiday, tap water was foul :(

foul scouts drop vigi helmets

water has always had taste, and it's delicious. your senes are just dulled.

I pressed submit a little too soon. for anyone who doesn't believe me, seriously, try this: don't drink soda (and other caffeinated products!) for a month, maybe two if you're a headcase, and I swear to you you'll wonder why you ever did.

done it before, I tend not to drink fizzy drinks often never have done more due to the fact they rot the shit out of your teeth

I drink water costantly, apart from a cup of tea or two in the morning and milk.

I only drink water,orange/apple/ juice and milk. For about 3 years now. I just started hating soda and beer one day. Meh

i'm the same since like 2 years ago. let's start water drinkers anonymous! i probably only drink something other than water like once a month. water is the shit. nothing betting than a glass of water when you're thirsty. you have a glass of it and you don't feel thirsty any more. have a glass of any fizzy sugar drink and you're like "mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm neeed mooooorrre!111~~~~~" ;D

depends on the water. most water is niiice but some is fookin horrible. the water at quakecon tasted like it was fresh out of the swimming pool :\

happened to me quite some time ago :)

pepsi/coke are both disgusting. water > all !!

What r u all doing on my 'diary'? Get out of here

*says a raged Pole

Coke is better, with J.D. xD

the only time I use some coke (always Coca-cola), is when I enjoy a long island ice tea.

otherwise water ftw

Purified water taste good. dr pepper was my favorite but quit drinking any type of soda pop. Its also bad for ur teeth lol.

Milk...

Milk is good too, a nice cold cold glass of milk.