hmmm

Well that was crap

MVD's are overrated?

FUCKING USE MVD.

lol, maybe it was recordet by players?

12 specs (and no gtv which is ridiculous by itself)...

Do you honestly believe not a single one of the 12 (twelve!) specs knows about mvd?

Either CAL admins are incompetent or else...

CPL qualifier is run by CPL

You cannot use MVD, there is a bug when spec's use it, the players can hear each other as if prosound is on.

cuz it is i think; its not a bug

um its not supposed to.. it is a bug

arqon sad there will be sideaffects for spec

"You cannot use MVD, there is a bug when spec's use it, the players can hear each other as if prosound is on."

yes!

i guess you cant read very well

u dont seem to understand, read again
spec will have prosounds (with MVD), players will have normal sound

look at the original message you replied to (the one i quoted).. thats not what he's trying to say the bug is.. again.. i guess you can't read well.

he's saying if specs use mvd to record or whatever it will sometimes make the PLAYERS sounds as in the ppl playing's headphones have prosounds.. he's not saying the SPECS will have prosound on, thats obvious and not a problem.. but the players playing will sometimes have prosound when a spec is recording a mvd demo. UNDERSTAND NOW? ;)

Naymlis is right, the specs have regular sound, the players we are speccing have prosound, this was apparent during the walter vs carnage matches, where both said they could hear 2 much, then ordered all 12 specs to turn MVD off. Afterwards it was fine for them.

Wow, so much for bug-free CPMA.

it's actually q3 engine bug

Whether it's a q3 engine bug or not, it's made evident by a feature of CPMA - namely, MVDs. I just find it ironic that MVD support was one of the selling points of CPMA over OSP.

And ofc, in your mind it is completely unthinkable that it will be fixed. Ever.

Other than that, we haven't been able to reproduce the error (except than on win32 ioq3 servers so it might be crap servers' fault)

That's a rather bizarre assumption. But I will contest that - in general - a mod without bugs is superior to a mod with, at any given time. I'm sure you're going to quote an OSP bug I wasn't aware of, but I've never seen such a flaw impact on a game. OSP was less gimmicky, and probably as a consequence, more stable.

I suppose I just don't consider MVD support worth the effort.

MVD is over rated, however the netcode just rules.

Isn't the difference in netcode basically irrelevant on LAN?

"and probably as a consequence, more stable. "

Way to talk out of your ass. After all, you're complaining about a single bug which concerns a feature that wasn't even part of OSP to begin with.

My point exactly. Do we really need this feature?

And if I'm talking out of my arse, you're going to have to provide a few counter-examples. Wait, didn't I already concede that OSP might have bugs that I'm not aware of? I only argued that MVD support was one of the main advantages of CPMA... but since it can't be used due to a bug, what's the advantage? Yes, it will probably be fixed in future, but again I ask, is MVD worth it? Why don't we just use the old mod which gave (to my knowledge) no real problems?

If I recall correctly osp netcode had, even on lan, some minimum ping of 50?? And yes, mvd is worth it. You need one gtv cam per match and you can easily select pov on the fly and the same on demos. No more 2 demos per match.

If I recall correctly osp netcode had, even on lan, some minimum ping of 50??

lol?

he's talking about the build-in lag, visible with shaft at truelightning 0

Something like that I guess.

Except when you host the server yourself.

You are free to use whatever mod you please.

It's like a cellphone. Never bothered you when you didn't have one, but soon as you get used to it, you'll wonder how you ever got by without it. MVD's rock.

For VQ3 CPMA is waaaaaay better than osp. Take some time, get used to it. And I think MVD's work by now.

CPMA has a team that still works hard on it. proof is on front page. that itself is a reason to choose it over OSP imo. especially when they're good at fixing things.

also CPMA really does have a lot of interesting things that makes it more 'complete' as a mod when compared to OSP. you don't have to reload a map just to change gametype, better netcode, more customization options, MVD (which hopefully will be fixed soon for vq3 as well), no need for a +zoom for thinshaft, fps independent physics plus a lot more. apart from the MVD issue, it doesn't have any game stopping bugs either. none of those things maybe important to you but a lot of people do like those things :)

what's wrong with CPMA anyway? if you're talking about the change in the feel of the physics, i think most people have adapted to it by now? i don't think anyone has any trouble doing any of the big jumps in almost all the games i play online.

if we want q3 to survive for a longer time, i think we definitely need something that constantly evolves and aids the needs of the majority of the community instead of a mod which was definitely good but is not being updated anymore. when you consider these things, stuff like netcode suddenly becomes very important.

Haven't been able to reproduce it, other than on a ioq3 server. Could you provide a demo (on a "proper" server) that confirms the bug?

Wasn't that supposed to be fixed with the 1.37 release?

yea, its not fixed though.

in vq3 but not in cpm? how?

prosounds are always on in cpm.

i thought they were in vq3 too, my bad

yea, standing on gl and hearing a guy pick up ya at pg is freaky:D

Haven't been able to reproduce it, other than on a ioq3 server. Could you provide a demo (on a "proper" server) that confirms the bug?

can u turn off the small enemy pov screen in the corner? i mean, you can switch the povs whenever you want to, so whats the point of that little screen? it's only a distraction, would be a lot better if it wasnt there.

\mvw_DM 0

thx

Yeah because YOU don't use a feature it should be removed completely. Makes sense.

since my post starts with "can u turn off", you are obviously a dumb troll.

I need new contact lenses.

or you need new contact lenses...

A Frenchman with humour.. A rare breed ;)

thats croatian flag, damn it =)

Man, you really need those new contacts. :)

yes cuz u are not used to it, but once u get used to it and know what its good for it rocks ;)

Wow, that can be called a railfest, though these two demos are very nice. I see that cl0ck has improved himself a lot, he plays really nice even though if he makes the same old mistakes :)

And that RL frag on hub around ~3:00 - 4:00 min, when cl0ck puts a prediction rocket to the wall right on the spot where Daler lands (near the upper rail) was $$$ :)

GG!

agreed

clock, more confident than before, better shaft also. Seems the both played a lot on dm6, and think clock has more practice on hub, remember he trained it a lot for eswc last year.

God if the name wasn't already bad enough that tag surely is.

Someone tell dkt christmas wants it's colours back.

hey i made that tag.. its the future ok? :)

dude, come on.

it's EPIC mark

it's very bad. dkt should crush your skull