more mirrors are being worked on!

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Stanley Kubrick, hallo?

Please, Ozu, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Bresson, Dreyer and Bergman are all out of his league.

you've just escaped bashing by Yeltsin thanks to nellie.

O FUCKING RLY?

he he ORLY havnt hear it be fore cool man! ^^

thx, the fucking part is my variant on it

anyhoo, those directors are gods but kubrick is no schmuck, i would put him up there

Kubrick is fantastic, no doubt about that.

kurosawa and bergman are great. haven't seen anything by the others.

Tarantino!

Overrated. He made Kill Bill 1/2, Pulp Fiction and some other decent, but nothing more, movies.

resovoir dogs, fucking wrote the script for natural born killers. have youe head checked °_Õ^

true romance!

Reservoir Dogs isn't that good imo. All the Tarantino movies have awsome dialogues and soundtrack, but only Kill Bill 1/2 and Pulp Fiction have something more.

NBK is really good, but Tarantino didn't direct it. I like Sin City, where Tarantino directed a few scenes, though.

kill bill sucked....

is a kid who thinks he is really, really cool followed by kids who think they are really, really cool

he's a poet!

jim jarmusch?

you should downloading something that came out of creative pictures. subz for example is more than in league with this guy.
Was still very nice though ;D

TORRENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

movie was kinda odd. overedited and not very great frags i thought. sound quality seemed kinda bad in the later half of the movie. 6/10

:D

!! torrent nice good !!

good editing but didn't like the content so much

dito

Except q3dm17 lucky frag, and quad run, there is not much to see...

Good editing for sure.

"Except q3dm17 lucky frag,"

and already seen it on GQ3...

no this is a different one. i sent it to cristal only last month. the one in gq3 ends with the rocket from the void. here i don't die but my friend respawns, turns around and MGs me.

You were right (i just watched gt3 and it's not the same frag :o)

Invasion ----> KageMan !!!

matka

YE COOL QUAD RUN WHERE HE SELFDAMAGES ALOT

also, it kinda sucks to see yet another dm6 quadrun

it ain't no "just quake"

Well, it aint easy to beat one of the best movie out there :>

Sure it is, for the most part the "editing" in Just Quake is terrible, and the music choice is quite poor really. The key to Just Quake is the frags and simplicity.

You could easily collect just a good a selection of frags and put some nice, simple high quality editing into it and you'd have a winner.

"...You could easily collect just a good a selection of frags..."

really?

Yes just think of all the big tournaments that have happened since it's release?

You have ESWC 2k4/5 Quakecon 2k4 QLAN2 cXg CPL winter 2k6 heck even ASUS tournaments from Russia and those are just the lan tournaments. You have EC's and what not too.

Then there are all the awesome frags from the tournaments from before/same time as Just Quake that were not used.

eswc2k4 = justquake2
eswc2k5 = q3fuel2 ($$$$$$$$$!!!!!!! q3fuel2 >>>> just quake :x)

but apart from that, yea, there should be enough to chose from.

There is no rule about re-using great frags :D, as long as you don't use basically the exact same set of frags it's fine imo.

well not really.. there's something about that movie which is just special. i'm saying this because i tried... with pretty much the same content. there was a movie making contest from style-productions in which the rules were to use only the demos they gave you. most of those demos were already used in Just Quake. i gave it a shot but after watching Just Quake, i wasnt really happy with what i put out so i scrapped it.

I dunno I think if we take a look at what really makes Just Quake so special I think somebody could use the model to improve upon it.

For a start:

- Frags: They are given a second or two to "intro" then the frag happens then they are given another second or two. (This one probably sounds like crap but it's the feeling I get *shrugs*)

This solves the problem I have with most "modern" frag movies where they seem to cut/cut/cut/cut etc. it also gives you a much greater "feel" for the frags.

- Next to no use of Slow-Mo to synch up the frags, now slow-mo to synch frags to music is the worst thing you can do in a movie except for maybe one/two times (In fact cky does this with the uNkind tele-rail where it comes at a slow part of the track)

This leaves the movie feeling pacey throughout and not "stop/start"

- Medium fov, you don't feel "enclosed" but you get fish eye effect either

yea i know what you mean by the frags having a lead in and out. the trouble with many frag movies is... especially in the cases where the community submits demos... there's just so much to fit inside a limited time span.

Agree, I think the perfect movie would be the frags from JustQuake with nice high quality and a new soundtrack, with clean editing (basically just synching with the music)

annihilation anyone? :>

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ye, because its not yet released :P

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you replied to a comment saying "it ain't no "just quake"", why do you bring get quaked 3 up ?

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k, i agree that gq3 was pretty boring but q3fuel2 and justquake 1&2 are the best q3 movies released till now.

edit: maybe i should add a little imo somewhere in there :x
edit2: btw. if you dont like both gq3 and justquake, what are your top 3 q3 movies then ?

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all "get quaked" movies are boring!

true

The funny thing is Just Quake 2 wasn't even nearly finished and yet it's totally awesome and was well on it's way to beating the first!!

ye, blame cky for thinking there wont be any more tourneys after eswc2k4 :/

cristal is the best.. i miss his 2k4 movies!

haha we took him with us to the dark side :D

yeh, and im staying there/here until ut2k7 is out o/

you never msged me on irc telling me this was out so I could get it fast :'(

voted 8... kinda mixed feelings about it

I know you made it for yourself ;) but I'll give you some feedback anyway

first of all, probably the best video with so many effects and cams, many movies have it, but suck deeply because it's made very bad, but you really made every effect/overlay/cam very good... but, still was too much despite the quality of it :(

and the sound felt like it was a bit bad quality. image quality etc was awesome.

somehow I really loved it, but on the other hand I was getting annoyed at all the effects and cams.

as you said, it's refreshing, because it's rarely that the good editors try to throw this much into such a short video, well done =)

edit: it had too low fov, you should know that using widescreen demands higher fov!! ;)

this video makes me feel kinda claustrophobic, i dunno if it's the quick cuts, the low fov, the motion blur or the combination of all 3 but i find it difficult to follow.

the huge resolution doesn't seem to help the quality that much.

this sounds sorta negative so far but at least it was somewhat original and didn't include the 5 minute outro.


ps.
'sup with the models alternating between pm skins and baseq3?

its that way because i want it that way, simple as that.

no the huge resolution is due to my text's + the fact that my computer crashed --> .veg got corrupt --> sampl .....
blbablabla, i got a long reason for it, u just have to trust me when i say 720p was for the best this time.

I dunno about the skins, im a total noob when it comes to q3, whats pm skins and whats baseq3? i dont know how to change it + it doesnt matter, my goal was to achieve a mood/feeling with this one, imo thats not dependant on skins therefore i didnt even bother getting into that matter at alll :D

PM skins are the bright skins :)
Base skins are the "textured" skins :)

i think you done a really good job .
actually it was the first quake movie in a while i didnt regret downoading
+ the music imo fit perfectly so have a plus for your effort .p

you're supposed to mention what VERSION of xvid you used

pardon?

esr is fucked up, never clicked reply

ownage movie, from a ownage moviemaker :D

<333

nice video, i wish i could go back in time when q3 was the most played pro game again :(

sorry.....but when was that? when q3 was released, CS was already out and played by much more ppl than q3........i dont like to say that, but we have to admit that :[

was the most played pro game again

PRO game.

still not right.
right would be:
"was the most played pro 1on1 game again"

In 1999-2000 and at least most of 2001 Q3 was the most played pro game.

Lies, specially when talking about competitive gaming. I played CS back in the day and I remember attending LANs and watching quakers playing on big screens with huge following and people cheering while we begged for a small tournament and nobody outside the players gave a shit about it. I remember thinking hey, maybe one day CS will be as big as Q3. It didn't take so long, by 2002 CS had hugely surpassed Q3 in both pub and competitive gaming.

damn you, its all your fault !

Nah, it doesn't work that way. I thought Q4 was going to be as big as Q3 and look what we got :(

:/

good ol' times :D

pretty boring tbh...
too slow and too many random cameras instead of better in-eyes views

i get owned from the void :<

I liked it a lot, very "powerful" movie if you see what I mean. I don't know it's a special feeling :) 9/10, not for the frags but because it's artistic and original movies like that are very much needed.

qft

uh?

qft = quoted for truth

oh ok :p

Nice movie, you people should read the text in the beginning before judging mr.crissy!

Very enjoyable movie, well done!

anyone else fell asleep?
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1306030

too much 3rd person tbh, didn't like the choppy cuts either

exactly my feelings. thanks for making the movie though @ crystal!

good job cristal

ass @ cristal

this is by far the coolest looking fragvideo i have ever seen

you gotta be kidding...

there are frag movies that blow this one out of the water, both in terms of style, editing and quality of the frags...

get quaked 3, annihilation etc.

maybe i dont feel that way

lolz

no he is not
and it seems you dont get this movie at all

lol it's a quake movie... not shakespeare... what is there to not get?

oooooooooooo silversun pickups berry goo

Agreed.

too many effects (i like the one around the 3:00 mark very much tough) and mediocre frags.
rest was really good

8/10

8/10.

impressive. cams go too wild a few times, but in general, fantastic movie.

created for his own pleasure and not for the joy of the audience :D

omg , so slow, too much effect , too much air rail etc...

Loved the scene-morphing starting at 3:37. :>

I'm also with Naghokez on this one, the style worked for me, if not the content. Very refreshing, TBH.

Normally I don't like the 3rd person view and camera angles much, but this was very nice. The music is powerful and I'm loving the effects. 9/10 +!

nice atmosphere. keeper!

Didnt like models and animation after q4 . 8(

Style over content perhaps, but the style carries it off for me. Class.

Really smooth and nice atmosphere and flow. A piece of art! _KEEPER!_ =D

The video was great, I love the music. It went well with the editing style.

I'm not a fan of the screaming head banger music that accompany most Quake videos, so this was a welcome change. :)

SP raises the bar once again. Fantastic work.

I usually really dont enjoy slower types of movies, but this I loved. Great work cristal

most awesome effect I never seen. nice job

7/10

I had pretty high expectations of this, and imo it was very difficult to follow, it just seemed like there were random shots of a death and it was very hard to determine where the frag came from. I do though like the fact that you made a movie for your own pleasure. Image/sound quality was nice (when the vid was in color). Camming get's a little excessive in a few parts (taking away from the skill of the frag). Just my opinion...

i see a lot of people miss the 'frag' aspect of the vid. only thing is, i kinda know what was in cristal's mind when he was making this video and it's not really about the frags at all. he was willing to work with just about anything, even if the frags were 'bad'. i'm not trying to defend him or anything, just that the focus of this video wasn't the frags. maybe that should have been added in the description. i was quite surprised in fact. never thought a song like this would work in a q3 vid.

EVERYTHING fits as long as you adjust the editing style to it! ;) here was the proof of it =)

I think he did a quite clear statement in the vid :)

But if I download a Q3 movie, its for the frags - not the feel of it.

If i'd like some artistic movie, i'd watch Tarantino all day.

found it terrible.
For a start if you want to make a vid for yourself and not for others, don't release it publically, even less under the Shaolin brand.
The quality is good, but the editing is crap. I mean there's waaay too much of it, I'm pretty sure those who aren't Q3ers and don't know most of the maps very well are totally unable to understand what's going on. That and the fact recams are way inferior to pov when judging a frag's quality.
And then there's the frag's quality. I mean, how can you, in 2007, put an air rail in a video ? For fuck's sake, that must be the easiest thing to do next to beating Dird on ztn.
I'm happy for you if you did it for your own pleasure and you indeed enjoyed it this way, but it sure is a poor vid to release under the Shaolin Prod brand.

i am drunk and i love it 10/10

frag at 2:20 = SEX

edit:

sober, great movie 9/10 keeper on HDD

the air rox on the ra3 map? that's me :D the next one on cpm1a is me as well :P then i get owned on dm17 after that.

you die so nice <3

haha :D

true

boring style, dude. it totally didn't fit q3.

check out this video for a more intriguing experience: http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=5059

thanks, i feel sick as fuck now lol, the frist 30sec of that movie is good rest isnt

impressive for a shaolin video! but the 'for my own enjoyment i dont care what the audience thinks' line was roll your eyes material

this movie in particular was crap, dont do anything like that anymore please!

Lovely movie, great atmosphere.

restecpa to crist for coming up with such an innovative style and atmosphere, great job man, this is why i love you :D

Some good stuff, I liked how clear the player turning was and giving the time for some of the frags. Wouldn't it be better to just grab the audience rather than have the intro with the pretentious 'I made this for myself'? Frag movies aren't really about suspense or character development.

gj cristal! hope you start doin q4 vids soon to

there's nothing wrong in applying a creative, artistic touch to the game that kept people obcessed for nearly 7 years.

Great job cristal and keep it coming.

cristal its amazing :)
i love this video.
powerful style :D

well done beaver !

Wow, loved it. Felt like a music video, especially with the text at the end. Awesome for what it was and can't fail at being what it wasn't meant to be...

Very relaxing, needed that.

The fogelpappa himself! o_0

damn nice video

The intro was a bit lame. Enjoyed the rest tho ;)
8/10

nice editing, content was so-so

7/10

Well well...
I don't know what makes me laugh the most :
The video released as a major ESR, or ashr posting every minute, trying to defend the videomaker after a negative comment.
No, definately the first sentence of the video. If you make a movie for your own sake, then why release it...
I have hundred of Mo of q3 videos on my HD I will never release, because it's for my own pleasure :-)

the focus of this video wasn't the frags

Then what the fuck is the point when I watch a fragmovie ?! I don't really care about fancy editing (which btw ruins the rare good frags). If cristal wanted to do something "artistic", then it's not enough; If he wanted to do a frag movie, then it's not enough (regarding the frag quality).

I think you can make a movie for the pleasure of the audience, while not beeing "pop", putting shitty pop music and so. I mean, you can make a movie for the audience and BE YOURSELF.
This was not a good fragmovie at all, and not a good art movie at all. I have to categorize ? Yes I do, everyone does. I also like what makes me feel something special.
Grab good frags, find your own style in the editing, and you'll make good movies.

general rule is all movies are major

Lots of good movies haven't been majored, even recently.

well, I've always felt that movies were always majored... looking back the last 8 out of 15 have been

lof's 2nd ra3 movie which has a content about a hundred times better than this one (although it has intended lack of editing) was unmajored by TosspoT about one hour after Sujoy majored it.
So no, not all movies make it to front page, not even all good ones.

And this piece of crap with poor editing and content (overuse of recams, decent frags ruined, poor frags and actions, poor creativity, and so on) earns "major" just because it has the Shaolin Prod sticker and the maker is known amongst the ut2kx community. Says it all really.

Edit : just in case you want to check it for yourself.

shrug, I major all movies I see, no idea why tosspot would have unmajored that, I've always felt the rule has been all movies get major as usually there aren't that many

Heh, I have many ideas why TosspoT would do that, but I won't get into that kind of discussions here. :)

that's easy. tosspot is an idiot

It was supposed to stay a secret !

take a good look again. i made ONE comment about cristal's work in this video and even that wasn't something to 'defend' him against negative comments but just what i thought he had in mind while making this.

in all my other comments, i'm having fun talking about my shots in the vid or i'm talking about Just Quake. look again.

it's for his own pleasure and he releases for others to enjoy watching it, what's wrong with that? and imo it was very good from an artistic point of view, dunno why you're arguing it "wasn't enough".

What's the point of writing that post, when he obviously doesn't care what you, or any other in here thinks of the work he made.

ah well, I'm sure he got himself a great laugh over your comment, I know I did.

cheers, keep on contributing to a fun esr! =)

love your movies man!! hope to see some more them! *cough* just quake 3 *cough*

just quake 1 and 2 were made by cky

i know tomboss didnt make them. but it would rock if he could make just quake 3!

ah ok

you sir, are a major idiot

Most of the frags sucked
Most of the effects.. sucked.
The music was great(and I dont even listen to anything like that)
Editing was very nice, but not perfect.

I think its a great inspiration tho.

Definitely one of the best editings, but the HORRIBLE soundtrack ruins it :(
6/10

too much 3rd person, but nice editing

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5/10..was about to vote 3-4 but editing was ok.

didnt like this movie at all 3/10

Nice.
8/10

if this had been a real movie i'd say awesome script :> you really see how cristal thought about every cut and cameramovement

it's no frag- or trickjumpmovie but just something to sit back and enjoy. really liked it, sound and colors are perfect, 720p is lovely.. gonna watch it again now :>

10/10 (i'd rate it as 11/10 if i could for the fact he released it as 720p :D)

beautiful movie...

The sum of the camerawork, effects editing, and a song that its not usual to be on a frag video shows the beauty of Q3, and why it is the best game to be ever released.

it's the best first person shooter tbh, cause the best rts game is starcraft :)

awesome movie-making skills, great music choice - overall this is an excellent movie. only negative side is the skillz arn't anything spectacular - BUT - that's the whole point of the movie as was said at the beginning "this is just for my fun not for the audiance" :)

great movie! :)

Cristal! Post something so we can [+] you :) This movie rocked btw :)

<3 the song

Hehe, people either totally hate it or totally love it.

Must be worth seeing, btw ashr, nice to see you around here :D

it was cool, i liked the music and some of the editing was impressive.. 8

quite a different quake movie, and quite for the better
we have seen enough fast brutal frag movies, and most probably the peak here has already been reached
this movie on the other hand focuses more on style and atmosphere. i do not say its perfect (i found 2, 3 scenes/frags that did not fit perfectly), but on the whole it is very refreshing too watch, very enjoyable. super mood it creates =) cristal, thanks for making it

the movie was good. to bad that the players in it sucked.

awesome movie:)
It just has a special feeling, i never experienced watching another fragmovie.

great job:)

A really nice feeling. =)

great editing...

I saw your console !

very very nice :D:D me like alöööt!

Really enjoyed this a lot. 10/10

<3 the music.

Re-upload: https://mega.nz/file/TVoRwBbQ#60hNT9TMdxTugRf...8xwiWnrD6s

And on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL66i5-iyZ4