friendy? old? more info pls ;P

done

thnx dude :P

lamed to death :x

boring demo, both try the same things again and again

i respect u, but u talking bullshit! :D
they show how need to play ztn IF U WANNA WIN! its tourney so..

it was still kinda boring, keeper playing quite defensive almost all the time.. zz

I don´t know what kind of tourney can you win without timmig at least the Mega or RA..... and they are so "going backyards". Anyway some nice skill, 0 timming, 0 map control.

dude 1st rape him than talk! :P
he never was good on timing (as i know/seen), but he playes smart, in the worl mb are 10 ppl who can beat him on ztn, on others maps he is not so good..

a lot more than 10 ppl would beat him on ztn. i think even more than 10 would rape him.

name those ten

how the hell should i know? i play q2 =]

lol

I don´t say that i´m better of him and I can´t tell who is better for watching a demo of him... but for example watch the demo of jibo vs nobap: better tactic, good timing and more aim and is not "the best of best demo" in ztn .

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1319978

yes, coz them both style is other, faster ...

if one of them will play vs keeper i fink battle will be more slow ant SECRET tactical :)

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1203086

*cough*

:P

haha lamer! ;D as u know CZM is best teh master SUPER SAYAN! so keeper dont have chance... :P

i dont think keep3r played his best ztn there. if he had, it would be much harder for czm. keep3r can be a beast on ztn.

imho in 2005 czm was pretty much unbeatable on ztn. (i still dont understand why he dropped ztn vs cooller :( )

Because cooller would have destroyed him. czm is pretty good at ztn against weaker opponents/off their game but against true ztn players (e.g. cooller) he gets beat kinda easy :)

at the cpl winter finals last year he pretty much sucked on ztn, but in 2005/04 he was godlike imho. He somehow lost most of his strats/timing/thinking in 2006 that he had back then.

Imho he would have won ztn.

Well he was better in 2005, but not in 1999-2004 :P. He still wasn't good enough to beat cooller on ztn, q3dm13 was far less of a risk.

imho cooller was 2005 far better on q3dm13 than on ztn :x

and czm was unbelievable on ztn in that time, every move he did was so well thought. Something that i didnt see at all in his games in 2006 :/ (ye i am also a bit biased there but imho in 2005 czm > cooller on ztn :| )

Well if you watch games where z4muz wins ztn it looks like he is the perfect ztn player, rarely makes a mistake, locks the map, frightening aim. And yet cooller always managed to beat it too :P

If you ask me czm is good on ztn against the majority where he can lay the smack down as it where, but he can do this to most players on most maps. cooller certainly isn't any player :P (Not that cooller was playing good in 2005 I still can't believe he managed to win :x)

cooller of ESWC 2k3 QLAN and cXg > * though.

lol cXg :)

You've got a classic zero4 cooller on pt4 game ££££££££

only thing i remember from that tournament was:

shitty monitors got stolen ? (or even the whole systems)
shitty map got played (pro-t7) :P

and i think elpajuo had a nice style to watch :)

There are some great games/demos from that tournament.

Whatever problems the tournament had (Like the final not being played!) cooller was playing some of his best games (imo obviously) and so was zero4/elpajuo of course.

elpa smacked down cmz at cxg

Yeah. elpa was on fire. Also czm was nothing truely special at this point in time to be honest.

aweful.

Nice game :D

pls stop speaking english.

nothing special