ESR - Duel map: Chryosis (beta)

<< Comment #2 @ 13:46 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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Anonymous (85.139.120.65)

Awesome map to me =) I enjoyed alot playing it =D

<< Comment #1 @ 13:46 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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Shire29

way to go BST, I'm not a dueler but it's great to see people still creating new maps for Q4. N1. Cheers, Shire

<< Comment #3 @ 14:11 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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Mou7on

I agree, it's great to see new maps for Q4 :) But i'm not totally sure this one is new. I don't know if it was you or another guy but I can remember a pretty similar map at the beginning of Q4 especially the MH/stairs part ; maybe it was you, maybe I'm wrong dunno :D

I could have talk about performances and textures but it seems you're aware of that :) My first feeling is a good one, maybe a little bit too much corridors and some room sizes not big enough but I gotta to play it before beeing sure ^^ Keep the good work up ;)

<< Comment #4 @ 14:19 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #3

Hmm either you are thinking of a very early alpha I released, which only had about 3 textures on the whole map, or a leaked alpha which somehow got around which had a more comprehensive amount of textures, or you are thinking of a different map :) From time to time I have also put screenshots and videos of this map up on esr aswell, so you might be thinking of those. Anyway as far as I know, since I made the whole thing from scratch in quark, it is a completely new map =)

Edit: hmm it seems the old alphas got around more than I expected. Since I didn't think they were on any servers, I didn't change the name of the map in the PK4. This seems to be causing the old map to load on some peoples computers. I have now updated the download link to include a different map name and pk4. Please delete the following pk4's in q4base if you have them (you don't have to though): map_chryosis.pk4 and map_bstdm1beta.pk4. The name of the new pk4 is map_bstdm1beta1.pk4.

Edited by ģbst at 14:49 CDT, 5 September 2007

<< Comment #5 @ 15:38 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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ģbst

Server is now up @ 85.236.101.80:28004;password chryosis

You should just be able to connect to the server and it will auto dl the map for you =)

<< Comment #6 @ 16:13 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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Vindex

good job man

map also playable here (nl)
85.12.35.218:28004 pw q4

<< Comment #7 @ 16:18 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #6

Nice one m8, cheers :)

<< Comment #8 @ 16:47 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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baron Railgun :

why not CRYSISOSIS ?

<< Comment #9 @ 17:16 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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ALonDonThinG

Cool map m8, plenty of thought has gone into it
pld

<< Comment #10 @ 18:10 CDT, 5 September 2007 >>

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Veritas_

Great work man!

<< Comment #11 @ 16:35 CDT, 7 September 2007 >>

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dynodeath

Very nice map bst dude, enjoyed run around with you on it. I found the map really easy to learn, and it gets better and faster the more you play it.

<< Comment #12 @ 09:56 CDT, 8 September 2007 >>

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mnemjc

I've tested it and it looks very good to me, but there are a few issue's

I know, its still beta but maybe you didnt know some things at all

First: I got only around 50fps when i switch forceambient to 0
When switching it on (higher than 0) it all runs without problems ;)

System Specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo 2,45Ghz (E6600)
8800GTX
2GB Ram

Think this should be enough to play q4 without fps drops.

Then the second thing is, use a thing under the weapons it looks kind of weird that weapons like rocketlauncher are lieing at the ground.

Third: I think its a lightining thing, here is a picture...

[IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/696/shot00493xv8.th.jpg[/IMG]

Why not use CHRYOSIS.pk4 as map name? why map_bstdm1beta1.pk4 ? Especially when the maps are final versions.

Regards,

Edited by mnem1c at 09:58 CDT, 8 September 2007

<< Comment #14 @ 16:19 CDT, 8 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #12

Well, everything you have asked about is explained in my original post :) Except why it is called map_bstdm1beta1.pk4. I have map_ at the start of it because it clearly shows it is a map pk4, and groups it with all the other map in the q4base folder, IMO its the correct way to do it. And bstdm1beta4 because its not likely to be overwritten by any other pk4.

But thanks for your input I promise I will have those things you are talking about fixed soon =)

<< Comment #15 @ 16:41 CDT, 8 September 2007 >>

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mnemjc - Reply to #14

Mh another thing... i dont like these ugly green teleporters.
It is possible to implement a teleporter like the one in Ruiner? ..that one looks awesome

<< Comment #16 @ 18:39 CDT, 8 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #15

"- The teleporters are about as basic as the get, looks wise, but it doesn't bother me at the moment - I'll try and make them look nice for the next beta."

:P

But yeah nice idea about the teleporters, I was thinking of using the mirror texture in some way, like on ruiner, but I dunno.. I might make my own thing. At the moment I just want to make sure the gameplay is decent, then when that is working nicely I'll work on making it look good and improving the FPS.

At the moment I am working on a 2nd version of the map which has a redesigned 3rd level, the area where the SG/ lg ammo / ng ammo is removed and the megahealth is on the other side of the curved room. Its hard to describe but it makes that area faster, atm its a bit too slow up there I think, and it doesn't really benefit the map in any way to have it. I will post it as beta2, but really its more of a choice.. if people like the beta2 I will carry on work on that, otherwise I will go back to the old one =)

<< Comment #19 @ 13:22 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #16

Just realised ruiner uses a kind of skybox camera thing, on quick glances I have taken of the teleporters during play I always thought they were mirrrors xD

<< Comment #13 @ 10:47 CDT, 8 September 2007 >>

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randomness666

i love this map.

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<< Comment #20 @ 13:23 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #13

Cool m8, I hope you'll also love the next beta which I will release in the next week or so ;D

<< Comment #17 @ 12:40 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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cK-nomadic

just out of curiosity.. how do you get that ss of the overview of the map? my friend did that for me in doom3 and it made it very easy for me to map out all the spawns etc

<< Comment #18 @ 13:21 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #17

Use the noclip command in the console and float above the map.

You will need to set net_allowcheats 1 before you can use noclip, btw. And also I couldn't get cheats to work in q4max so its best to use q4mp or single player mode.

<< Comment #25 @ 10:49 CDT, 25 September 2007 >>

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Lisk - Reply to #18

devmap probably?

<< Comment #21 @ 13:48 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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mefajpE^

Anything that would kick out Ravage out of mappoll will be great.

<< Comment #22 @ 14:02 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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randomness666 - Reply to #21

and phrantic =S

<< Comment #23 @ 14:55 CDT, 12 September 2007 >>

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mnemjc

mh can't understand why you like torment... i really like the map itself but the items especially MH/RA are to close together..

Why is galang removed out of the most mappools? Think the map was great :<

<< Comment #24 @ 10:16 CDT, 25 September 2007 >>

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ģbst

I have a beta 2 version of this map nearly ready, only thing I need to do is sort out the lighting, and tidy a couple of little bits up (so in a couple of days roughly).

I have changed the map to be a bit faster paced, there is now a tele for the mh jump, and another tele at RA which takes you upstairs (instead of the long narrow staircase). Plus a few other things. You can see some of what has been done in the screenshots below:

http://www.grinders.co.uk/fh/chryosis/beta2/shot00151.jpg
http://www.grinders.co.uk/fh/chryosis/beta2/shot00152.jpg
http://www.grinders.co.uk/fh/chryosis/beta2/shot00153.jpg
http://www.grinders.co.uk/fh/chryosis/beta2/shot00154.jpg
http://www.grinders.co.uk/fh/chryosis/beta2/shot00155.jpg
http://www.grinders.co.uk/fh/chryosis/beta2/shot00156.jpg

The map plays a lot better like this I think ;)

Also I am making a TDM map atm, only been working on it for 2 days though, but its already playable (has items and spawns). I don't plan to spend much time on it looking nice, so a beta should be ready soon. If people like it and think its possible, I might also turn it into a CTF map :)))))

Edited by ģbst at 10:18 CDT, 25 September 2007

<< Comment #26 @ 12:03 CDT, 25 September 2007 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #24

url?

<< Comment #27 @ 14:51 CDT, 25 September 2007 >>

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retire - Reply to #24

mh needs a block from the stairs rail where you just peek round and fire.. feels nasty when you've done an impressive 180-circle slide-jump on the pipe and then you get railed without a second thought :(

other than that, the new beta looks great

<< Comment #28 @ 15:16 CDT, 25 September 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #27

I can add this before I release beta 2, but I'm not sure what you mean. If you msg me on irc you can show me if you like :)

<< Comment #29 @ 15:54 CDT, 25 September 2007 >>

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dradik

I played this map and it looked very promising, is there any east/central servers with this map running?

<< Comment #30 @ 11:21 CST, 11 November 2007 >>

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Mou7on

Any news for a final version of this map bst ? :)

<< Comment #31 @ 17:00 CST, 11 November 2007 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #30

Won't be much longer ;D

<< Comment #32 @ 16:44 CST, 12 November 2007 >>

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OrangeChef

links borked

<< Comment #33 @ 15:32 CDT, 19 March 2008 >>

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mnemjc

Any updates yet?

<< Comment #34 @ 15:04 CDT, 26 March 2008 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #33

The map is pretty much finished, it just needs a couple of small areas texturing and some brushes cleaned up, I suppose I could release it pretty soon if I can get a few hours work on it done during the next week... (I did do a few things on chryosis last week actually ;)) Its on the "final" stage anyway, beta 3 was the last beta (but not many people saw beta 2 or 3), the one I'm working on atm has pretty much every movement/layout thing I wanted, and all the ramp jumps feel "right" now. I am very pleased with how it turned out but sad that it won't get played ;p

I also have the CTF map, which BTW I have done quite a bit of work to and the layout is looking a lot nicer imo ;>

I'll put some screenshots up soon, of both the CTF map and chryosis. (actually for the CTF map I'll just release Alpha 2 probably by, or over the weekend).

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<< Comment #35 @ 04:12 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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fsad

"I had loads of problems with it, technical things.
Also at the time I was using Quark to make the map, and it became so slow it was unbearable, and I just got totally bored of it.

But now I've learnt GTK radiant, I could finish it off... I did give it over to the GTR team, as they wanted to finish it. But I'm not sure if they've made a start on it yet. If they haven't I'll finish it off and post it up. I can't say when, it depends when I get the chance to have a few good goes at it." -- http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1763112#pid1763112

From the final news update on the GTR site and the WIP map pack uploaded to ModDB ( http://www.moddb.com/mods/gametype-revolution/addons/duel-mappack ), it doesn't sound like that team is going to be finishing your map. And I guess completing a 4-year-old Quake 4 map that will get played by 4 players at most doesn't exactly get the creative juices flowing... Still, would be a shame to abandon it if it's that close to a final version, if for no other reason than it would look good on your resume. :)

<< Comment #36 @ 09:13 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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zhakal - Reply to #35

The map itself can easily be finished if that is something players want. But it has issues, mainly performance issues. The layout is hard to get working in with everything turned on. So you are bound to turn much of the graphics off to be able to play the map smooth.

It's not part of the duel pack which is released mainly due to how it plays out in the mode GPM. It has nothing to do with the quality or how the map itself is, but how it is compatible with a given game mode.

<< Comment #37 @ 11:30 CST, 23 February 2011 >>

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ģbst - Reply to #36

Yeah, when I made the map I didn't really know much about performance. But I don't think its too bad with a few tweaks - mostly just lowering polys, because it has a fair amount of curves (pipes mostly). I think if you run the map without curves even a lot of the performance will improve. Theres probably a lot of brushes which could be merged aswell, and also a lot of the walls are made up of tons of brushes, which isn't necessary for it to look nice. Then theres also the lighting which I had hardly even started.

I might give it a go, soon-ish :)

What is the GPM mode btw?

<< Comment #38 @ 08:46 CDT, 17 March 2011 >>

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zhakal - Reply to #37

GameType Pro Mode - A tribute to the CPM gametype. Movement and weapon attributes kept as close to CPM as possible. It has similar movement, weapon config and setup as CPMA to suit the CMPA players. Tiered Armor System.

Edited by zhakal at 08:46 CDT, 17 March 2011