Gotta love the picture on the Crossfire page. :]

It's true, though -- too many +back-all-day scrubs playin VQ3 and not enough raphas and chances playing nowadays.

are you implying you're not one of those +back-all-day-scrubs?

am I a scrub? no.

do I +back all day? no.

so yes, I guess that's what I'm implying. I'd say I'm a smart defender, unlike the +back scrubs who don't even know when's a good time to change gears and put on the pressure, etc. And if you're mad about that one game we played, you try playing Q4 with 80 ping against someone good and then see if it's so easy to play aggressively with it.

Mad, hehe.
I only read your reply by chance because it was at the top of this post. I just found it funny you mentioned +back players, which I'd consider you a notoriously frequent +back player. Not that it's bad, just a style most people despise.

I don't know what game you're talking about specifically though. Played too many games to remember that far back.

Who is Jonathan? Some catholic n00b?

Jonathan Wendel (born February 26, 1981 in Poland), also known by the pseudonym Jon4thaN, is a professional electronic sports player.

Thanks for that information. Much appreciated.

lol hope your kidding :D

lol hope ur kidding :D

Why? It's true, look it up on wikipedia!

i hope you're not laughing at Jon4thaN Wend3L

Jon4than is a pretty bad ass player.

If your comment was a joke - it was funny. :)

;-)

Voo obviously has better movement. He moves much faster around the map.

Voo = Reppie
Jonatan = Locust ?

Vo0 = reppie in style, exactly what I noticed, same country, same style, same level of play.. :)

Also, both are Aerowalk specialists :-}

voo is like one of the best cpm player ever, but i think he turned into a bad gamestyle..
Why the +back thing on 24, the crappy behaviour on 3A and the "im gonna use my 5seconde spawns at 30 secondes to the end on 1A"

gg anyway, but voo'd better change his gamestyle at least for the specs.

jon<3

or else you're gonna stop watching him play?

"Why the +back"

Why not? He can use whatever style he wants. Its the grand final afterall.

grand final of ab amator tourney huh?
im sick of bad gamestyle that's all.

#cpmpickup ftw every nights starting at midnight for fun and fun ty.

There is no such thing as a bad gamestyle. People can use any style they want, charging all the time or playing tight or mixing it up to confuse the opponent. And thats exactly why Quake games are so awesome.

hmmm, i guess you just never a guy on 3A who spends half the game on the ra box or the mh box.

pm on irc i will show you what does BORING mean

His CPM24 was da bomb! Are you kidding me? He's playing Jon4than on CPM24. From what I saw of Jon4than on that map... he almost looked invincible. Jon4than is VERY strong on that map.

Of course Vo0 waited out his spawns in the last 1:20 or so on 1A. He wants to win, and he already got a bit careless too early anyhow. He could have +back decades before that.

just watch the part where he stays at the top ya near rl for like 1 min, was so boring ..

I know which part you are speaking of too well.

Then he gets killed twice and he tries something else. I think I know what he was trying... but I'm not entirely sure.

:(

dating @ toolbar

hi i'm voo, cpl own me hundred grand

Lovin the gta2 mate :P

are u trying to prove u did rage on 3a like show this pic? (no cpm3a demo vs jon :DD)

Jagged Alliance ftw.

STEAM FTW

Can we get some sexy QW demos?

+ voor flapdrol

bad gamestyle ... right.
it might be a bad excuse to you, me and everyone else, since he's been in a lot gazilion dollar finals, but according to him, he didn't play any duels since his last match vs. light. so maybe he wasn't confident with his game yesterday, who knows.
it's the lack of confidence, that leads to making mistakes in your game.

generalizing is a bitch.

for the specs? it's a game and he wants to win.

people always must complain something.

It seemed to me like Vo0 was rusty. The first series between Vo0 and Jon4than played much different. Vo0 was a lot more confident and certain of his game. I'd bet that Vo0 didn't play much during the day leading up to playing Jon, and was probably pretty cold going into the first cpm22 game.

Anyone else notice the serious frame drops Vo0 was getting in there during the 3a and the 1a games? His POV looked hella choppy at times.

I had some lag spikes the whole day so that was probably the reason for the choppiness. You're also right about the inactive part, but I did play a whole lot the hours before the match to atleast get a bit of feeling of quake back, and luckily it was enough :)

yeah I can players playing that kind of game right now and thinking:

"yeah I'll +forward the enemy who has total control and lose all my frags and advantages in the process making it easier for him, sucks for me but I'll make everyone happy on GTV by rushing!!"

well in that case its totaly stupid i concur, but voo didnt lose the control they had quite the same weapons and armors he just stayed hidden maybe because he fears jon's aims

just admit you don't comprehend duel -.- your previous posts show just that lack of understanding >

dan please.. :d

Spot on man.

this was vo0 playing after about 4 weeks of no activity, and 3 times his usual ping.. wp

BG closer games next time pls :(

wasnt you supposed to go in kenya?

nepal in 1 week, thanks for checking

cool how long?

2 mnth

nice looking forward to some pictures

i will miss you mate :(
just come on irc if u find any cyber café :)

cpm1a was somewhat close :/

Never thought i'd say this but im starting to think CPM more fun to watch than vq3. Atleast they have really dedicated players.

The "starting to think" will soon become "absolutely sure of it."

the pic on crossfire page explains it pretty much.

strange thing to say on the back of this match

Vo0 pld some really nice stuff and some bad, but jon was below par again. Despite jon dominating everyone else in cpm as much or even more than Vo0 after whatching their two matches he seems completely outclassed apart from his solid cpm3 game.

Anyways my point is despite some great play by Vo0 but this wasn't a great match unlike some previous cpm finals that we have had in previous tournies such as the masters cup that rat won.

If rat would make a comeback and we had a rat-Vo0 final now that would be something special :)

yea volante would u mind to get your ass on cpm again thx

Agreed.

For me, Dziku vs. Vamp on 3a pretty was pinnacle of Winter Shivers.

demo?

edit: http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=de...demo=34684

that it?

That's the one. it's fucken \m/

...and i thought jonathan wendel was fatal1ty.
what a cheapass fanboy this -jonathan- must be :/

Do they put some kind of retardant in the water over there where you live?

You mean fatcamp?

its an unfunniness toxin thats been in german drinking water for as long as I can remember, a big part of our population is very much affected by it.

your post proves your point imo <8

i hope someone invents an antidote soon.

Eh, beer has existed for much longer than said toxin!

hahah

right

this one?

I'd hate to be vo0 playing a dead game no one cares about. Oh yeah what was it again osp/cpma playing @ eswc not OSP/OSP dumbcunt diaf. Hope thats enough flame bait to get vo0 out of his shell.

Bruce, had a go at Bruce' liquor cabinet aye?

Maybe he just play games that he like?

that's simply ridiculous.

Continue to hold cups/leagues like this and keep the great game that is CPM alive, at least in Europe and North America, for a long time.

there can be only one !!!

Heaven's got a peanuthead

whoot very nice

XD

i once kileed voo :O

cheat

Roughly speaking... the outcomes of the match(es) were very close to the first series. I'm sure we can all find certain parts in demos that are questionable, but overall I was very impressed. 3A being the only GLARING example of inactivity. The other examples given, are - to me - like splitting hairs.

For example:

This time he was holding a lead on 1A and trying to hold it, instead of a comeback from behind. Playing the same player who has even more recent experience on that map than before.

Or even CPM22... you may see differences in his play from before to now, and perhaps see a lack of confidence on this map or others (something we can't really quantify or measure) but the outcome is very similar. That's something that speaks without all the bullshit.

Which brings me to CPM24. I was expecting Vo0 to get utterly raped (after watching Jon4than just SWALLOW people on this map), which is why I personally enjoyed the match so much - something unexpected happened.

Some have called this a bad game style. How is such a discrepancy in score a bad game style?

And finally no, this wasn't anything close to a Masters Cup final. BUT watching an inactive Vo0 play a strong Jon4than is always good times.