nerd

take a look at this dribbler

yay \o/

thx for the info.

there was one before but without sfx etc.

Yeah but I CBA with unfinished stuff.

yeah i didnt dl/see it ... was just pointing it out ;)

I saw that one and without the SFX it was turd :/

fat nerd

says skinny wnb black nerd

pale white fat and nerdy

nerdylicious

lookin pretty trim there m8

have you lost weight?!

oh my god, you are terminally overweight

My mum says it's just puppy fat.

kill your mum and eat her heart or keep your virginity forever

from how many puppies?

101

300

IT'S OVER 9000!!!

damn, I always make confusions when I hear stories about spartan warriors :p

http://pwnzzrsoft.net/images/over9000.jpg

he looks pissed off

Liam I just want you to know; Fuck these losers that call you fat and nerdy, Nomadic understands ! Keep watching stargate and playing quake, they are the two best things in the world :D

I appreciate what you're saying and all but I'm comfortable with who I am so anyone being a prick doesn't bother me, still, thanks for the support :).

A scouser stealing something. What a surprise!

i so hope thats not you

of course its not him...

exactly how i expected you to look

By the way in that pic I was looking at an ice cream van leaving before I got a chance to sample it's frozen delights :<

K I've been getting alot of queries on IRC and shit so I'll just confirm it: that is me, get over it, so I'm fat, it doesn't mean anything, make all the jokes you want, I'm cool with it. Tom found them, I (stupidly I guess) gave him a link to my brother's myspace page and those are pics from a family party we had.

And yeah me and Tom are still friends, it's just some friendly joking, everybody calm down :).

tom aint nuttn but a dirty vegetarian !

Aww, look at those cheeks! <3 *pinches*

you look fat like mojo

thats a hybrid of me + adv3nt

god i cant say if this thing is female or male -_-

redhead with curls, ding ding ding!

too tall for you anyway...

lol :)

You woken up next to something like that a few times?

Stargate.

omg omg thx for the info, good that I didnt watch leaked version

Liam is the king of internet, quake, and stargate.




End of discussion.

The man has spoken.

I wonder if Liam will soon magically dissapear from ESR like Therailmccoy did?

his teeth look just fine to me

:D

I didn't expose myself, also fuck off.

if that's really you, now i know why you're a complete asshole and raged all the time, i'd be too if i was that hopelessly fat fuck

if that's not you, nice troll

:D

this is exactly who i've been expecting behind the nick

troll

hurley

hurley is better looking.

that made me laugh :-)

it's ze truth. :)

you're gorgeous, simply stunning.. 10/10.. call me

yeah, after a beer... or 200.

i suppose you use model tankjr ingame :D

MOAR SG-1 PLZ

Why you all gotta be dicks, I'm drunk lol

oh lala!

hall of fame tbh

i dun caer

Liam so fat when I imported his picture into photshop it asked how many hard drives I want to use as a scratch disk.

Liam so fat if he was a game model and stood at Red Armour on pro-dm6 his stomach would clip through wall by the Super Shot Gun.

Liam so fat when he spanws into a level he collects all the powersups at the same time and "invades his opponents personal space" winning every game without losing a frag.

Liam so fat he inspired John carmack's Megatexture technology.

Liam so fat when he runs towards the teleporter on tourney 2, the teleporter jumps into the void.

I got nothing against fatties or people with things they can't help, but you need tough lovebro or you heading for wipeout!

Haha awesome, it's just like the one TRM did about cooller, y'know without the humour.

shut the fuck up we all saw your pic

i didnt, giev

He looked like a hamster that was getting ready for winter.

looked like he had downs

then he actually took it down

That was actually good.

at least hes not a no life nerd such as yourself and he doesnt waste his time writing five page replies on gaming websites

loser

ok I'll hand it to you, that was pretty funny,

eeeh... when did the humans actually get the knowledge to build battle (star)ships?! i kinda quit watching sg1 when o'neil quit :x

Thought they had them before he quit to be honest :P

SHUT UP AND STAY ON TOPIC

CAN'T YOU SEE HE'S FAT?

maybe he hasn't got a widescreen..

k, I'm ashamed now..

what' so good in star gate? i've always found it kinda lame compared to the other "space soap operas" like trek, b5, bsg...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1706767/

ahhhh that's who he reminded me of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu2HMo63nyU&feature=related

Me once was 300, two years later I feel fine with my body. Even experienced real love, which most people on this board will never.

If you want to shape yourself, start now! Because when you are older your skin won't heal itself as well.

this guys been on a diet, you should have seen last years photos. hes doing a really good job

Considering he posted a pic of his penis last year in these forums. No thank you!

lol? :D

I am serious :(

trauma material

makes a change from LoCK posting pics of his balls!

Even experienced real love, which most people on this board will never.

Get over yourself; some girl letting you pump her cooz a few times didn't bring the universe to a grinding halt in awe of the magical once-in-a-civilization moment underway.

This was a joke btw but I just thought I'd share something with you all, the best part about this whole thing is because people believed it so strongly they all pitied me and as a result pretty much the only person making fat jokes was tom, and he's been away in scotland sliding down frozen hills or something.

Special mention goes to funnyb for this quote:
<funnyb> nekon will believe anything that puts him as only the second most fat cpm-player

Thanks everybody for being so ready to believe this was me that you missed the obvious signs that this is an American, most notably how fat/short he is.

HE LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING GARDEN GNOME.

If for some reason you doubt me, just ask any lobstar, they will then tell you how it isn't me, definitely. They won't, for example, deny it and say something along the lines of "dunno what you're talking about m8" because they would never do that to me.

The beer tbh.

Nobody once mentioned ginger :<

the girl is feeling so awkward by just being on the same photograph as you.. and the guy is prolly a social worker being paid to be your 'friend'

She has a thin guy buffer so it's ok.

Like anyone believes you... not only fat, but a liar as well...

Since the majority is always right, we need a poll to find out whether you're fat or not. e.g.:
"Is Liam fat?
a) Yes
b) Most likely
c) There's no other option, because this poll is made by Putin"

he looks better than you

Liam you'd totally be in there if it wasnt for that lanky streak of piss next to you killing your style

if you pay attention the fat guy and the lady drink the same stuff
guess who's next on the overweight list :p

LIAM WE LOVE YOU!

s/we/no one/

s/love/loves/

nerd.

:(

s/:(/FUCK OFF!!!!!

is your momma FAT? IS SHE FAT?

I heard she cut herself and gravy came out ...

forget sex and being popular, there's always sumo!

You have no idea of how popular and how much sex the good sumo wrestlers get in Japan have you? =P

i guess you needed that, right? you and promode are so kewl and popular m8 :>

poormode*

I wouldn't put double lies past Liam, he's an internet genius. GL with weight loss progs m8, try to win more at CPM so you'll be less sad and eat less.

Don't eat and drink water you faggot.

looks like a jpg of some model (player model)

Just become vegetarian and avoid too much alcohol you're sure to shed some weight.

Haha, I am a vegetarian who doesn't drink much :D.

Plants are for smoking, dumbass.

Or eating / drinking / otherwise using to induce an altered state.

this is some of the most horrible advice ive ever seen.

The vegetarian part, maybe, because theres no reason why just not eating meat would make for a weight loss diet. I mean you could eat white bread, candy bars and drink soda all day and be vegetarian.
Second part, most people probably don't like to hear it, but it is true alcohol has no role in the diet of someone trying to improve body composition. It's purely detrimental for that pursuit since it's nutritionless calories that have to be metabolized before stored fat can be used.

even if he goes vegetarian and doesn't eat any junk food, you're still telling him to have a diet that is primarily composed of sugars and to neglect all good natural sources of protein. he will NEED protein in his diet if he wants to do ANY kind of physical training.

Vegetarian != vegan

The three best sources of protein are Whey, Egg and Casein all of which aren't from animal flesh. Soy is a complete source of protein from a plant source although its lower quality. (meaning more grams needs to be consumed compared to something good like egg)

Vegan diets aren't loaded in sugar vegetables and fruit are the healthiest foods you can eat. The sugar in most fruits does not cause a blood sugar spike the way sugar in soda, processed foods and crap food does. Fruit is natural.

I personally am not vegan because it entails pretty specific nutrition and would limit me to poorer sources of protein. However unless you're an athlete of some sort the protein needs of most people are going to be easily met from a vegan diet if they just eat a balanced meals with a variety of foods.

I don't really like to have to defend vegetarianism because it is nonsense to be questioned about the nutrition gains and health gains associated with it. There is no risk to vegetarianism, infact it is the safer diet to follow if you're concerned about colon cancer, heart disease, high cholesterol, obesity, life expectancy ect.

I've been vegetarian 2.5 years: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Ant1gen/

Has not limited my progress at lifting weights at all, even without taking supplements. Last august I weighted 12 pounds less and my body fat was atleast 2% higher.

"The three best sources.."

everyone is different and there is no best, considering you need to consume a wide range of foods in order avoid nutritional deficiencies.

"Soy is a complete source of protein from a plant source although its lower quality."

non-fermented soy is one of the most harmful "foods" that you can put in your body, considering the massive of amounts of phytic acid and trypsin inhibitors it contains.

"Vegan diets aren't loaded in sugar vegetables and fruit are the healthiest foods you can eat."

wtf do you think a fruit is? and again with misinformed assumption that you can eat one kind of food and be healthy.

"the sugar in most fruits does not cause a blood sugar spike the way sugar in soda, processed foods and crap food does. Fruit is natural."

non-organic fruits(which is the vast majority of fruit that people consume) aren't natural. high-carb low-protein diets work only for a small percentage of people on the entire planet. these are people that are descendants of certain tropical tribes. if your skin is naturally pale, then your ancestors(from ~10k years ago) ate a lot of meat and this is the kind of diet your body is adapted for.

"However unless you're an athlete of some sort the protein needs of most people are going to be easily met from a vegan diet if they just eat a balanced meals with a variety of foods."

these non-athletic people will end up unhealthy if they don't eat according to their metabolic type.

"I don't really like to have to defend vegetarianism because it is nonsense to be questioned about the nutrition gains and health gains associated with it."

wheres your evidence supporting this claim? you're no different than those religious nuts who think it's nonsensical for people to question their beliefs.

"There is no risk to vegetarianism, infact it is the safer diet to follow if you're concerned about colon cancer, heart disease, high cholesterol, obesity, life expectancy ect."

america has been told to have a high-carb, low-protein, fatless diet for 40 years and look what happened.

"I've been vegetarian 2.5 years: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Ant1gen/

Has not limited my progress at lifting weights at all, even without taking supplements. Last august I weighted 12 pounds less and my body fat was atleast 2% higher."

..............................................................................

I'm really regretting that plus spree I gave you you two months ago.

as am i.

just because you gave me a plus doesn't mean i'm not going to call you out on your bullshit.

Also, you know nothink about nutrition. :) <3 Just
thought I'd throw that out there. Good night man, I'll read your replies tomorrow.

idk wtf makes you think you know anything about nutrition when you're making preposterous 'one diet fits all' claims.

Also I'm not or like a religious nut I'm not doing it for religious reasons.

Here is the fact:
Properly planned vegetarian diets have been found to satisfy the nutritional needs for all stages of life, and large-scale studies have shown vegetarianism to increase longevity, improve health, and significantly lower risks of cancer and other diseases.[4][5]

So Lo click that and educate yourself. It'll make you feel better and maybe you'll get flamed a little less on internet forums.

who the fuck is flaming me?

THE EARTH'S AXIS IS TILTED IN RELATION TO ITS ORBIT AROUND THE SUN AND THIS CAUSES THIS THING WE CALL "SEASONS". the vast majority of our ancestors COULD NOT live on a vegetarian diet and diets like this are the reason so many people in usa are obese.

I clicked that and the two citation in the wikipedia article. And you know what? I'm not impressed.

The meat gives lung cancer thing clearly states that "lots of meat" so no well weighed diet.

And the article from the American Dietetic Association only states two things:
1) If a vegatarian plans his diet well, he can cover his bodies needs.
2) Vegatarians diets offer an improvement over the average non-vegetarian American. And I think it's no secret that the average American's diet is healthy.


Thus the articles only allow one solid conclusion: A planned diet, including vegetarian diets, is better than an unplanned one.

Everything else is speculation and not covered by the citations.

Correct, and that is why I more just tried to tell Lo this sort of diet isn't harmful like he was claiming. I would never advocate a vegetarian diet on health reasons alone, because small amounts of clean lean meat can be and are a part of a balanced healthy diet.

The deciding reason for me is the huge negative environmental impact that factory farmed animals have. Methane is a much stronger greenhouse gas than CO2. The greatest contribution to methane emissions by far is from animal agriculture. That source of greenhouse gasses can be reduced if people more people eat less meat or become vegetarian.

Sources: http://www.methanetomarkets.org/ag/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane#Methane_as_a_greenhouse_gas
http://earthsave.org/globalwarming.htm

No, you didn't. You did bring up that it is possible to have a good nutrition, yes. But you also insinuated that having a vegetarian diet is the way to go when you want to eat more healty.

I don't really like to have to defend vegetarianism because it is nonsense to be questioned about the nutrition gains and health gains associated with it. There is no risk to vegetarianism, infact it is the safer diet to follow if you're concerned about colon cancer, heart disease, high cholesterol, obesity, life expectancy ect.

And that is simply not founded on any conclusive evidence. And that's why I disagreed.

Versus a typical American diet the bolded is true. And of the people who usually give me criticism or pointless questioning here in the states, that is the diet they follow. In other words folks who say "how are you getting your protein?" and yet they don't know how much protein they or I need and can only list one source of it, meat. Or they are completely ignorant to the difference between veganism and vegetarianism.

I should stand corrected though that diets containing some meat can be as healthy as well planned vegetarian ones or better. Fish for example if it is not high in mercury is supposedly quite healthy. I exclude fish because I never really liked it before I went vegetarian. But the benefits that fish offers can be met from flax seed and protein from legumes or egg whites, with less risk of mercury contamination.

The correction should be less meat and then only meat that is lean is what is in order when trying to eat healthier. There's no evidence of risk from vegetarian diets if well planned and they're appropriate for a wide range of people. So if someone already eating healthy wants to take a step to reduce his environmental footprint then switching to vegetarianism shouldn't have any ill-effects on his nutrition and will reduce the amount of water/land/fossil fuels required to make the food he eats. I haven't seen any studies comparing long term health differences between well planned low meat diets and well planned vegetarian ones.

Although they both can include some of the healthiest diets for humans, the results would be interesting. And by low meat I mean a few times a week but not quite everyday.

I would hate to see anyone interpret what I said above as a suggestion that maybe eating lots of meat, especially greasy or fatty kinds, every single day isn't going to raise their risks for several diseases. It's something that in the right amounts can have a place in some people's diets. For me it's easier to exclude it all together. Since the healthiest level of meat consumption is closer to no meat than the typical amount of meat consumption in the US.* And ecological concerns makes up the rest of my reason to exclude the meat.

It was a bad idea on my part to just throw out "vegetarianism" as a suggestion for weight loss when the picture is a little more complex than that.

Balanced nutrition and a restricted caloric intake along with exercise, especially with free weights (because muscle is metabolically active) and a more active lifestyle will help someone lose bodyfat.

*If that statement there were not true then you wouldn't find this.

ok, thanks, now i can agree 100% from what i read.


well, maybe I'll take that back in the morning cause I am a bit drunk, but i don't think so.

As for fish I once read an article about Okinawa and how they have the oldest people and I think their diet included quite some of fish.

But what I personally found more important in that article is that the people still worked a little and "were usefull" even when they were ninety. Rotting in some reitrement home watching the grass groow probably is way worse, no matter what you eat.

Not enough land to cope with a vegetarian diet.

Not enough land for any diet when you've got 6 bil. people here. Some land suits itself for grazing only, let the people who really want to eat meat eat that meat. The way it is now is vast swaths of land get used to grow grains which we turn around and feed to animals. This is inefficient since the land could be used to directly grow food for humans if people ate less meat and animal products.

That land is really poor and the grain that grows there isn't very good quality.

hahahahahaha

Try telling farmers that over here. They'll die from laughter.

:<

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJotVmkRf4E

this guy says exactly what i'd like to say to u, except for some of his comments about plants knowing when ur happy/sad etc.

I decide to place the cut off at animal kingdom. Plants are totally awesome although when deciding if they they feel pain it's much less obvious than with another mammal or a bird. As far as ethics of pain go, it should be more important to prevent suffering you can understand versus suffering which is totally alien as it's from a different form of life.
Just by existing you will cause harm and suffering to things in your environment. The pain argument of vegans is not particularly strong for me because of that.

Lets pretend for a second plants did feel "pain" every bit as excruciating, maybe even worse than animals did. Eating a vegetarian diet would still cause less net suffering than an omnivorous diet. Because no matter how little pain cows and chickens feel relative to plants. They need to eat food too and they'll consume more plants than we would consuming plants directly. There still is harm involved, but the total harm is still lower. So "pain" of plants does not take much away.

Same with the earthworms and parasite bit, there's death involved in making vegetables or grains. But consider there's even more death involved when those plants are fed to animals and the animals are killed.

Carnivores have instincts to kill. Put a young cat by an apple and a small duck. The cat may likely kill the duck and play with the apple. Put a young child with the two and the kid will most likely eat the apple and play the the duck. We're omnivores (although some of our traits are closer to that of plant eaters) cats are carnivores.

After 4:20 this guy diverges into nonsense. I eat probably somewhere between 120-160g of protein a day which is more protein than the average american. I admit it would become very difficult to do that if I couldn't eat diary products or milk. But people still often over estimate the amount of protein they really need. Vegetarian diets are not carbohydrate only diets. They don't have deficiencies in any of the nutrients he mentioned because vegetarians can get these things from diary and egg sources.

Vegans cannot get vitamin B12 from any food sources because it is only found in animal products. They get it from fortified cereals and soy products. But he is talking about vegetarians so he's ignorant of the difference like most of everyone.

the point was to was to give some pro-vegetarian arguments, not some anti-meat arguments or anti-suffering arguments.

"We're omnivores (although some of our traits are closer to that of plant eaters).."

show me one tribe of homo sapien that existed 10k years ago or more that didn't eat meat/fish.

"After 4:20 this guy diverges into nonsense."

pretty much all the questions he has for the vegetarian viewers are after 4:20. way to avoid them.

Asking me how do I get my protein and saying that if I'm a "protein type" that my vegetarian diet gives me only carbohydrates and that I am going to get sick is nonsense. I've never even heard of metabolic types before and I think if were something meaningful I would have learned about them by now.

I believe what I mentioned else where about fossil fuel use and methane emissions was a pro vegetarian argument. There aren't many "pro veg" arguments to make because strictly saying all it is removing one type of food from your diet. If you want the provegetarian health arguments look to the health benefits of eatting lots of vegetables and fruits and also from eatting less meat. Although that can be done without being a "vegetarian".

For some reason though you personally think meat is needed for your survival and it's not. If Bill Pearl, a two time Mr. universe winner could not only meet his essential needs but far exceed them inorder to build a lean and muscled physique eatting an ovo-lacto-vegetarian diet, I'm pretty certain it's more than adequate for your forum trolling needs Lo.

"I've never even heard of metabolic types before and I think if were something meaningful I would have learned about them by now."

there are several books on metabolic typing. u wont ever see oprah promoting them tho.

"I believe what I mentioned else where about fossil fuel use and methane emissions was a pro vegetarian argument."

this isn't an argument against eating organic meat or fish.

"For some reason though you personally think meat is needed for your survival and it's not."

needed for health. don't strawman me.

I don't get it, why are you hiding your face? are you ashame because you do sports ? it's not like some terrorist act

u replied to wrong person.

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Ant1gen
isn't that you in those pictures ?

no, that's antigen. i was quoting him :P

oh sorry then!
but still, why is he hiding his face there ? so much mistery!... :p

It's a somewhat common practice to take photographs that leave out your face for safety reasons on bodyspace. This probably applies more for the women though since there are plenty old creepers on the interwebs. The site is about your body so it doesn't hurt anything.

usually bodybuilders pose their faces too, but maybe you just wanna show some modesty or to avoid people which know you to try to make you a fool because you do sports, lame attacks like this occur very often

"I've been vegetarian 2.5 years: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Ant1gen"

man you're 18. go out, have some fun, take some drugs. ffs... you'll have time for shit like this when you're older. :/

Been pondering that idea, including drinking, but only small amounts like having a drink or two once a month. I'm not opposed to it, just drinking has alot of drawbacks for bodybuilders.

at your age you can safely get drunk as fuck every saturday and it won't affect your sport performance (except the next day maybe:)). I don't know how it is for bb but you don't look like some pro buff-toad bodybulder to worry about shit like that.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=Alcohol

The consensus is fairly clear it's detrimental for the gain muscle, lose fat croud. Some problems being:

-Calories without nutrients.
-Alcohol has 7 Calories per gram plus what else comes from the drink so it can add up quickly.
-Alcohol is metabolized in the body first, preventing or postponing fat loss.
-Dehydrates muscle tissue.
-Lowers testosterone levels
-Above two result in slower protein synthesis (muscle repair/recovery/growth)
-Potential to break far from ones usual diet while inebriated.

But I'm not rigid about it, I understand its downsides and just plan to use it sparingly. Drinking 1-2 drinks max then only water.

alright Arnold.

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Man I don't know you or anything but you gotta be the most boring person ever. Go out and party and have unprotected sex with young girls. Who knows, you might just get run over by a car tomorrow.

You die if you thinking to match.

Look, for example, footballers - who train everyday (including bodybuilding) get drunk once in a while (atleast, which i know <3 ... including myself in the good old days :D). it is good for your social life, mate ;-)

you need to work a bit on your neck else it looks a bit like a random head placed on a strong body

ok. :0

That's what I like about BBing it's always a work in progress there's always something to improve on and with dedication the changes can happen over time.

deadlifts will do that

Right on.

and shrugs and perhaps some wrestling bridge exercize

dude, if you're 22 and weigh that much you should definetly work out more frequently. And have in mind what you eat. Don't just gobble anything. :/

^ this man is wise.. also, BUMP!

Is Liam still fat? Or does he still just gobble anything. :/

Don't just gobble anything. :/

^^

N.A

N/A

No.

LOOOOOOL dude after seeing this pic i find you even more awesome

awesome dude after seeing this pic i find you even more LOOOOOOL

one day, when i have killed all germans and bombed germany to once and for all erase it from mankinds memory, the world will thank me

Try a coma. Or have a specialist remove your taste-buds. Or, as a last resort, suicide cures all (this one is tricky though, 'cause you'll be dead).

Liam, who cares if your fat, its the internet, plenty of space, stop eating mcdonalds if your so worried. and ye, it is you, bet you said to yourself; "i post my pic, then if I get too much negative feedback I'll just say its a joke"... Liam, being that fat is no joke, you need help, but instead of wasting mcdonalds money on getting help, move to america and you'll fit in fine and as a bonus, the US dollar is so low you could buy your own mcdonalds restaurant.

"move to australia"

fixed.

Here's my hot picture... enjoy, pedo's:

Jonesy

you are pretty wise for a 6 years old kid

seems your future was set from the get go. is that cba written on your shirt?

if he don't have some special hormonal problems he could loose a lot of weight by gradually eating less and less doesn't matter if he is a vegetarian or not; usually fat people have SOME hormonal problems in the sense that their body do retain a little more fat than ordinary people do, but this is not an obstacle in loosing weight, it is just making lazy and without determination people have an excuse
to give you an extreme example, how many fat people have you seen at Auschwitz in WWII (I'm talking about the jews, not the germans, but you got the idea)
he could also go for running, let's say 10-15 km/daily, I know he won't be able to run that much in the beginning, but in a few months he'll do it
or he could just lay his fat lazy ass on the chair and play WOW further

when u starve urself ur body begins to store fat and water. thats why people who try low calorie diets end up heavier then they were before they began the diet.

there is a trick here, too
if you drastically reduce your food, the self defending mechanism will force body retain fat, but if you slowly reduce your food it won't happen
my personal belief is the fat guys which tried diets did just tried it for a few weeks or maybe months, thinking about food all day, and at some point they just surrender and start eating a lot or even more
if you are sure reducing your food won't help, you have a better explanation for Auschwitz then ?

their stomachs were filled with air.. i thought everyone knew this.

so you wanna say that's the reason they become so skinny ? ok, this debate stops here

o, i thought u were talking about their bloated stomachs because you didn't mention anything about skinniness in ur previous post. if you think risking your life in order to lose weight is a good idea, then go right ahead and tell people that. a lot of these people lost almost all of their muscle tissue and got ulcers and many other problems as a result of being starved. when they were saved they had to eat very small diets because their stomachs shrunk and if they ate a normal sized diet they'd die. im sry i didn't read ur comment correctly but wtf ur not very good at articulating ur point so i was like wtf is he talking about.

ah, ok then
the reason they got those health problems is they didn't stop eating gradually; if your weight is for example 130 and you wanna go down to 90 (kilos), you must slowly descrese the quantity of your food, it might take months or even years, you have to decrease food quantity in such manner so you don't weaken your body
I'd recommend them some minimum jogging or some aerob sport too, in order to keep their immunity high, while very slow decreasing the food quantity; it is a hard process which needs a lot of determination, and a lot of time, that's why most people don't succeed in it

a lot of that weight that is going to be lost will be muscle and when you lose muscle your metabolism lowers and your body burns less calories, which is undesirable. you don't need to do any cardio-specific training to reduce your body fat %, you could easily do it with weight training. eating less is not a good idea man.

I hardly find you getting rid of 35 kg pure fat whatever you do if you will continue consuming 10 kgs of food every day -you have to consider that most of these guys eat A LOT (unless you go on steroids so you will get muscles by doing this, but steroids are not healthy)

seriously, there are a lot of obese people in my family.(america etc) they try to like eat a couple packs of 100 calorie oreos and maybe some noodles for dinner or some shit and they just get more obese. they go for walks every day, too.

imo they should not go for diets (special food), because diets increase their appetite, they should just decrease the quantity of their regular food, and there is the time factor which they have to consider, which I mentioned it a few times by now, but I doubt they do that
the "couple packs of 100 calorie oreos" might be some very periodic attempt anyway

"imo they should not go for diets (special food), because diets increase their appetite, they should just decrease the quantity of their regular food"

there are serious problems with this.

1. you need to be sure that they're obese because of the excess quantity of the food they're eating, not because of the quality/selection of food.
2. which food you eat really impacts your health. eating x amount of calories of a certain selection of food will effect your body much differently than eating x amount of calories of a completely different selection of food.

you have a very american understanding of nutrition and i don't think you should be giving nutritional advice. =[

even in primary classes if you are gonna pick up a manual and read, it is written there that first cause of obesity is too much food
just because I won't start talking now about EVERYTHING on nutrition it doesn't mean I know nothing about nutrition and what fat people should do to loose weight; if you wanna do it by the book it is recommended first you should make blood samples because depending what is your blood (A3, AB4, etc) you body have some specific tolerances to food, but I won't get into all details here; the main idea is they gotta eat less; I have to remind you that I was pointing in my very first post on this subject that most fat people don't have big hormonal problems, and usual food don't affect fat as you'd think, I can show you a lot of people which consume a lot of carbohydrates and they are not fat, so don't come to me with exceptions please, ok ?; the fact that USA people eat McDonalds and other look-a-like food which deliberately make you fat, by putting all kind of synthetic stuff in it to make it tasty, is a very big problem for you, of course, but it's an exception, regarding the wide category of food you may choose, so I don't feel necessarily to point more in that direction, I consider deciding to abandon the synthetic food is common sense;
I have a vey american understanding of nutrition, how's that ?I helped a friend on this manner, he went down from 110 kgs to 90, does this mean americans are no fat anymore ?and we did realize that (me and the fat guy) by going into aerobic activities (like boxing, and running) and by decreasing the quantity of his food;
I've seen over the years a lot of people trying to loose fat but all of them which does not succeed seems to have something in common: they all do give up and start eating again, with bigger appetite, and they try to avoid as much as possible any physical effort to achieve the loss of weight

"even in primary classes if you are gonna pick up a manual and read, it is written there that first cause of obesity is too much food"

main causes are excess sugar, preservatives, synthetic chemicals(aspartame etc) and malnutrition. i really would like to see this "manual".

i think i need to speak a little more about malnutrition. if you eat a meal of nutritionless food(the vast majority of processed food), then you're body will still be starving for what it needs(vitamins/minerals/etc), after you digest that food. eating worthless food leads to overeating and weight gain because you're body stores fat when it thinks it's starving.

no problem that u r fat, but later u gonna have real big problems with health, thats all problem.. u r young, try change ur life!

play more Wii

liam is the best garden gnome ever.

not much garden left when you put him there tho

i cannot believe a journal with the picture of a fat guy could recieve so many replies. why didnt i think of this earlier?

the guy on the pic doesn't even have to be fat!

lukrek+liam=<3

I have this weird desire to fuck, eat and kill fat nerds... mmm.. TASTY!

luv u

:)) *blush*

i have the secret to weight loss but won't tell fatso

ur chubby

my chubby?

ur chubby hands = chubby rest

Michelin Man.

Phenterfein (Diet Pill)
Jack3d (Pre-Workout Mix)
Exercise (At your local gym)
Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein (After exercising)

Repeat daily in this order for 9 months.

Tada!

here's how to order!

I like your bubble gum

is that a cold perm?

stop eating, have a goal like: i will get that girl(like an impossible one) then u'll reach it.. i have a friend who have done the same. he was 135kg... now is around 88kg

and then he learns she's into fatties and starts eating again

ye, but better than live alone and without pussies :D

It's beautiful.

Put in less energy into your mouth than what you use.

You seem like the guy that would be awesome at Zumba!

you sound fat on comms that 's all that matters