tl;dr

im not a drunken oaf :(

Then you must be a pole.

no NO !

[wagner music playing]epic roflcopter scene[/wagner music playing]

Ah, you mean this.

EPIC WIN!
You made my day mofo..

True, poland is much better than britain. British ppl only sit around drinking tea, while they keep saying "HELLO OLD CHAP, IM TERRIBLY SORRY!".

*bloody

20 years late m8

70*

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over 50% of the british population are poles.

the rest are from packistan.

So which are you?

I was born before immigration got out of hand the country became a toilet for migrants using it for a better way of life.

You said 50%+ are Poles and the rest are Pakistanis so you must either be a Pole or a Pakistani right? was just wondering

50% Pakistanis? what the hell, man some sudden jump over 1.3% oh wait, since Jamerio is just plain fucking stupid I'll make that number 4% (taking into account all 'Asian' minorities in the UK).

fuck immigration has really gotten out of hand! shit, a wopping (rough it's much lower) 72,000 applied (applied!) to get into the country last year! they're going to topple this 60million population.

don't get all the job stealing either?!?!, considering labour vacancies have been on the up, not to mention non-whites are those that are making most of the unemployment (sub 15% of the population), by the way white British are the lowest of that number.

i am really tired (been up all night doing this shitty course that I am doomed to fail because Jamerio thinks he knows best) and just heading off to bed, so I can't be fucked putting any effort it. :(

600000 poles entered the uk last year.

thats a lot of poles :)

aye, i was tired and could;t be arsed to look up all ze stats

my point is jamerio knows fuck all and is reading shit at face value in dumb papers and assuming the rest, he's a simpleton

how come they allow so many people in? i was under the impression that the UK was pretty strict about immigrants coming in. i was pretty surprised when my cousin and his wife just decided all of a sudden to leave to the UK last year... and they did. iirc, they didn't even have job offers or anything. however, they were both highly qualified. my cousin's wife was a doctor here and i guess doctors usually shouldn't have trouble finding a job anywhere in the world.

weird because general practises and hospitals are full of Indian doctors/consultants/surgeons and what have you, you guys must have some kind of genetic advantage when it comes to working with the human body haha

if your country is part of the EU you'll get in easily (hence the surge of Polish) though I remember reading about restrictions being put in place, which was basically students, professionals an and so on only being allowed in.

I think there are also ways in if you already have family in the country and of course the illegal side of things

in a nut shell I personally think authorities and governing bodies are just not strict enough and this applies to a lot of problems in the UK, be it the education / justice / immigration system.

ah when my parents were in college, it was common mentality that studying to become doctor assured you of good job offers and money. i guess that's where all the indian docs came from.

As a doctor they would have welcomed you cousin in with open arms :)

Poles have the language barrier, Indians don't, not to mention indian colleges are probably much closer to british standards than polish.

true... i didn't think of that. maybe i'll go live in the UK for a while lol.

Ethnic groups (2005 - Some groups inc. White Other and Other (inc. East Asians) are thought to be much higher)

84.70% White British
5.30% South Asian
3.20% White Other
2.69% Black
1.57% Mixed Race
1.20% White Irish
0.70% Chinese
0.60% Other

Population
- 2006 estimate 50,762,900²
- 2001 census 49,138,831
- Density 388.7/km² 976/sq mi


The problem isn't immigration it's too many people in general.

yeah the stats of mine aint quite up to date they're similar though, think I got them from the national statistics database thingy., a lot of interesting stuff on their.

wasn't about the numbers anyway as I'm sure you're well aware, just Jamerio's simple mindedness.

Well those ones are from wikipedia so... :D

Was just to show a general indication of what you meant I guess. Also that's just for England (Not the whole UK)

looks like they're grouping the 5% is still the just about the same :)

obviously the stats can only account for legal immigrants, but even counting the illegal they're still the extreme minority.

"shit, a wop"

Racist.

caught red handed

Nicky, why do I get reply notifications, I have not written this post?! :D

you replied to ikipedia not me lol was the db screwing up again?

I'm getting 14 reply notifications, one is you the other ones are all
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1521991#pid1521991 (which is not done by me :o)

weirdddd O_o

you accidentally bookmarked this post so anything new and you'll get a message

oooft so true

xDDDD

they better not let turkey in a tell theee

before immigration got out of hand

Oh right, was that before the Norman invasion? Wait don't I mean the Romans? Or maybe just before the vikings? Saxons?

stop bashing poles damn it

Let's bash the brits or the cpma players instead. Since they love to bash :D

funnyb will bash your mom

Still numba1 @ snyggast.nu? or whatever site dat was.

she prolly is..

Was referring to you on that drinking coke picture, but since you're so mean i take that shit back =(

ye lower class brits are pretty much cunts

at least poles work, not live on the dole...

It's easy to say at least poles work, yeah so would I if I could move to a country where I could get 400% greater wages and a better way of life.

Why do you think every fucker sneaks in here?

The problem with britain for REAL british people (cos no you're not a real brif if your whole culture is in jamica and you're born here cos your upbringing will not be british as it should) is there are very countries they can benifit from moving to.

Why do you think OZ are trying to tempt young professionals over there and using immigration/over crowding and all the shitty things that's happening to the UK as encouragement.

Belive me, if I were living in the UK and I could get 400% more money and better quality of life I would be off in shot.

For native british people, it's migrants from places like poland that keep low paying jobs low and force a whole subculture to become depedant on benefits cos its simply not profitable for them to work because by the time they pay for accomodation, this tax that tax they really are better of not working.

What's next, shall we employ people from chad and sudan becasue they'll work for a bowl of rice and the prospect of staying alive and make even the lowest paid workers redundant.

you're forgetting that the uk owned and ruled half the world at one point and now people make out like our whole economy would collapse if we did not have poles flipping burgers and unblocking our toilets. It's just retarded.

And there are plenty of poles selling the big issue.

One a pole has been here for a certain amount of time he is entitled to the same benefits as native brits.

The UK is just being taken advantage of and exploited. In turn that encouranges a certain breed of people to do the same.
I not saying it's that black and white, but there are a lot of people in the UK in that rutt where it's simply not profitable for them to work because low skilled jobs will always pay peanuts cos they simply get outsiders to do it.

there is no such thing as a simple job.
Bin men are seen as medial people. yet the country would grind to a halt if this service was not performed. the orony is the most medial services are key to basic fucntioning of a country.

And before someone says yes but it's all relative cos they have higher costs when they heare you only half right.
genuine British peopel are used to a certain quality of life one of the best in the world, people coming over from poorer countries are generally offered a much better way of life even if they live a life many brits might consider basic.

As a result they don't need to spend as much on living costs.

I really pity the common man that has to work for minimal wage.
what is it like 5.52 an hour?

By the time you take out petrol/parking/lunch/you would need to work the first two hours on that salary just to cover the basics and our gvt wonder people stay on the doal??

For the last few decades the UK has suffered serious leadership issues and the mass influx of immigrants will be the nails in the coffin.

I not bothered as such trends are below me, but it's a problem for the common man.

Polish builders > British builders though

rape him again plz

VOTE BNP

Wow guess I won't need my Daily Hate fix for tomorrow.

you can re-read it and discover more nuggets!!

you're forgetting that the uk owned and ruled half the world at one point and now people make out like our whole economy would collapse if we did not have poles flipping burgers and unblocking our toilets. It's just retarded.

you got into that debate with ini and in the end after he dismissed all your points (shit you had read in the sun and assumed) with actual sane answers and arguments, but in the end you referred to the classic "I work and pay taxes, you're wrong', thinking it gave your stupid and unfounded arguments foundations. EPIC!

hah what points are these then?

You would say anything just to disagree with me.

read my post and figure it out, but since you're stupid and like to forget things I'll remind you (keep it in mind that I can't be bothered to search).

it was some thread and you ended up talking about the very thing you're talking about here. You then got into a very lengthy discussion where you bitched about everything related to immigrants and he dismissed all your points with valid argument (because you were spewing stuff along the lines of 'poles stealing all jobs!!!').

you then got into talking about the economy and housing I think, and in the end you more or less bailed out with "you wouldn't understand chances are you've never paid tax in your life" and making another 1001 assumptions.

You're oversimplifying his rebuttals...sometimes he also says "you're unemployed scum who spend all day on irc and don't pay taxes so your opinions don't mean anything" even though I'm fairly sure everyone not in further education who argues with him is employed.

Jamerio - because you shouldn't let facts get in the way of outmoded thinking.

I like the snob vibe you purposely give off now, it's cool.

oh and just because you earn a higher wage than some people doesn't make you any less common than the people you're talking about so get off of the high horse.

It's not a snob vibe again it's your limited understanding of what I'm talking about so you assume its the most primary basisc thing.

Common man does not mean posh.

To me it means a certain class of people who are simply sheep in the sense that their lives are heavily depedant on how the country is run and don't really have the skills of drive to get out of that rutt and simply have to go with the flow.

When immigration keeps increasing the countries leadership will get pulled back and fourth becauseit has to accomodate a more diverse group of people, which will eventually mean British values are destroyed or severly weakend and for a country several times smaller than texas that has always been our saving grace.

I not against immigration, but it's totally out of hand in the UK and the longterm daamge has already been done in my opinon.

what are those "british values" you're talking about?

breakfast
tea

pie and you

binge drinking

hehe

Well if people like you got off the dole and started cleaning toliets then we wouldnt need poles here, so do us all a favour get off your arse and pick up the feather duster

For the last few decades the UK has suffered serious leadership issues and the mass influx of immigrants will be the nails in the coffin.

I not bothered as such trends are below me, but it's a problem for the common man.

if that last comment is not snobbery then i don't know what is, if it's a problem with the country then it affects you be it directly or indirectly.

I didn't say common means posh, I know what common means. I class myself and those around me as common, it certainly doesn't fall into your meaning of common, but I guess that's like your creatine meaning as well! got juice?

I don't care if you're for or against immigration that wasn't the point I was getting at.

but there are far worse things going on in this country than immigrants where the top majority of them actually contribute and no they're not just present in the common man's world.

Any chance instead of constantly spewing rhetoric you could give us some specifics? Like name any "British value" which is being eroded or weakened and explain how immigration of people with other countries listed as their place of birth on their passport is the cause of that.

Belive me, if I were living in the UK and I could get 400% more money and better quality of life I would be off in shot.

O its alright for you to do it but not people from other countries? lol what a twat

when him and ini were ranting about the same/similar topics he was going on and on about people immigrations and people emigrating then said how his dad ended up emigrating to Costa de Sol or whatever

totally went against everything he was arguing for.

That might have actually strengthened his arguments cos let's face it his dad has no doubt lowered the tone of Costa del Sol purely by moving there.

Thats not a very good excuse. Just swallow your pride and live a bit cheaper.

"it's migrants from places like poland that keep low paying jobs low..."

Even tho I always thought it was the company owners who abuse the lack of minimum wage law for foreigners your post has made me reconsider my views. Luckily we have real brits raised in true british ways(*) to clarify things for the rest of us. Thank you kind sir.











(*) the dole

im sorry but jamerio is fucking spot on, but they wont just affect the working man, but all levels of social classes, infact over the years social classes are totally degrading into far more basic levels as house prices, wages and many other factors arent staying in relation with each other.

Good, it's a round world genius. Just because this country has fucked over dozens of others for hundreds of years to get advantages doesn't mean they can cry when the scales begin to balance a tiny smidgen. Apparently the stiff British upper lip has been replaced by a bitter and twisted scowl which proclaims all ills the faults of others.

Regarding social benefits: last year Poles living in England gave Brits 3,2 billions of pounds in taxes, social benefits for Poles cost Brits only around 21 millions of pounds (0,65% of the sum Poles paind in taxes) - so worry not, Poles coming to UK are generally going there to work not to rob your country.
Also the immigration tide from Poland is slowing down as the situation here in Poland gets better and at the same time pound is getting weaker.

Without the immigrants the British industry would collapse or... move out of Britain in search of cheaper labour force. Remember Rover?

BTW I've got to agree that a lot of scumbags from Poland went to UK. Have fun with them :P The other side of that coin is that along with the 'white trash' a lot of well educated people flew away from here. See, you've got the best educated McDonald's workers in the world! That is of course only partially true, because in many cases as soon as these guys get known English better they jump to their acquired profession. So if you don't like the immigrants, please, be so kind to give us our engineers, our IT experts, our builders and our doctors back! Thanks...

P.S.2 One another aspect you're missing: the immigrants from Eastern Europe usually work better and more efficiently than others. And they come to Britain mainly to work, not to get the EU passport and/or exploit the social benefits system, etc (Polish medical care sucks, but it's still a lot better than UK's). So, yeah, Poles > chavs.

Waste of time telling that to Jamerio he's a nationalist, it doesn't matter at all if the Polish are better workers and will ultimately produce a better quality end result (of whatever it is they do) to him.

He'd much rather the country be all skilless British people shitting on each other than a country of the best of the best from anywhere and everywhere.

I read an article once which said something along the lines of any healthy civilization has to maintain at least 30% immigration of its population to survive or something to that effect. What these idiots don't realize is the country would grind to a halt tomorrow if they all left.

Not if Jamerio has anything to do with it!

Don't blame the poles for working at low wages. Blame the guys that actually employ them at such wage levels. I assume those guys are mainly brits. :)

super Jamerio bait

:D

she sounds a bit stuck up for a 23 year old tbh

but yeah she shouldn't go out at night and look at fat slags in mini skirts... she'll get beat up

The uk does have a problem with the social underclasses and this will need tackled. but i don't think immagration is to blame.

Britian needs heavy industries for these empty heads to do after they get poisened off school or something for them to aim for and earn respect for

or something for them to aim for and earn respect for

thats what virtual worlds will be for

The uk does have a problem with the social underclasses and this will need tackled. but i don't think immagration is to blame.

word.

I thought that was such a fucking retarded BS (jameriosque) column, and at the same time I typically only see these going the other way (from uk on Russia for example), so that's why I posted this "Times" troll. And the responses are hilarious too. Hehe.

tbh uk is kinda like that =[]

Everywhere is *kinda* like that.

I dunno about that UK seems to love fat people a fair bit more than the rest of the world (bar USA)

its a government issue simple enough, the problem isnt complex its simple, wages arent staying in relation with anything because companies can easily find somebody to do the job at minimal costs, and with added demand means theres no housing available, therefore inflation increases even more while wages stay more or less the same. And when the government does increase the minimal wage companies find ways to exploit it by making it near impossible to earn commissions people easily could achieve before, and many other loop holes were they get away with paying more or less the same they originally did.

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don't care, moving to australia

/thread

yay more brits

just don't let anymore in and it'll be okay, i can remove the others one by one

Borders are closed as of now, you're too late! :-)

Soon the poles will play Rugby in the streets
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/articl...article.do :D
Good way for Jamerio to spend his tax money ^^

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Um, have I mentioned that my girlfriend is from poland. Oh dear.

tB0nE receives OVER 9000 damage from Aaron's FLAMETHROWER!!!

i love ze poles

hating on the greenlandics at the moment

cunts the lot of em

A change of scenery eh?

Aww still raged because I outsmarted you so badly? Not that it is a hard thing to do :o

self admitted greenlandic?!

you fell into my trap icelander!

We all know what you meant icerink!

discredible article, very biased and incorrect
too much of anything is a bad thing!

uk is dirty, lolz

There's a difference between poles and chavs?

Poles cheat
Chavs aren't clever enough to cheat

I can't find anyone to fix my fence. Everyone emmigrated to England. And those who are left want 25$ for such work, LMAO.

Seriously, I would be thankful if you kicked them out of your land. I miss old times when they used to fix my fence, trimm my lawn and water my plants for two bottles of cheap wine (about 1$ each)

haha, same happened here with construction workers etc.
most went to work in Spain/Italy/Israel

the good side is a large population of gypsies left too
living in trailer parks, improvised camps outside Italian/Spanish cities and doing petty crime/begging in their streets

it looks kind of ogrish to see such miserable slums outside of beautiful historic cities.. Italians got pissed and started to go fascist mode on them. good show :D

Yeah, gypsies are gone! Wtf, I mean: HOORAY! \o/

I am unconvinced, we need to put some chavs and poles in a cage to find out the truth. Two untermenschen enter, one untermensch leaves.

why dont you just say subhumans, your not bloody german!

109 ruined by this chav

hahahaha sudsta is a chav, yeah
good to have this confirmed by first hand knowledge

and you two have just confirmed your both fucking idiots, the only difference is that your opinion is flawed and mine isnt.