oh looky i was first

cool, downloading :D

Nice but I can't run it anymore since I installed that

april fools!!! :))

You cant? Why not?

finally a decent q3 server browser ;D

is there going to be a linux release any time soon?

Nope, probably never.

Escapedturkey was able to make it run under wine though, but he had to jump through a few hoops (installing msxml, and probably some more stuff now).

nkay, thx for the infos, going to try it out with wine

IF you don´t have it, try it:
http://www.linuxgames.com/xqf/index.shtml

thx, although im alreaddy using xqf. but the filter system kinda sucks. well, xqf does its job, but somehow i dont really like it
+ my isp disconnects me when i update from the master server using xqf

Pretty cool, I still use ASE though 'cause I like its powerful but not retarded filter system and this does appear to be missing some features like setting your name (unless I've missed it), still good though and I like the filter system (dynamic isit.)

ase doesnt have country flags anymore right?
also: As of March 2008 Yahoo! have started sending emails to ASE subscribers informing them that ASE will be discontinued in approximately 45 days and that a $15 refund will be issued to current subscribers.

use country flag hack v3 @ ase.. dont have problems :)

you will probably be unable to use ASE by the end of this month

yeah i read this :(

just get arenascout :)

that's what i've been using for ages
but getting the servers automatically from the master server doesnt work right

nah i know kind of sucky, but still, easy prog and it pwns =))

I dont really see why you should ever need to set your name - configuring the game is totally unrelated to the task of searching for servers. See desire not to bloat it. :)

You can set "additional parameters" to exec your config if you need to, but AFAIK every game supported will automatically remember settings like your name.

BTW, I do understand that the ASE filtering system is more powerful, and if you're comfortable configuring filters then I can see why it might feel a step down. But it comes at the cost of being easy to use and so most end up using pre-built filters... hence the design decision to use the less flexible but more dynamic system which suits most people better. :)

I have my q3config.cfg write protected to stop stupid shit happening to it so it doesn't auto save for me, I also don't have it in any configs so I can change it if I want to easily, it's not really a big issue anyway if you can specify extra parameters (just use +set name "whatever") but I didn't know that :). I have a feeling this browser will eventually be a total replacement for ASE (hope that still works even after the servers die... does it contact the q3 master server itself?) so keep up the good work :).

ASE doesnt talk directly to the master-servers for any game, it only talks to yahoo, so when they switch off the server you wont be able to find new servers. I believe it talks to the game servers, so anyone already with a server-list might be able to keep using it for a bit longer, but will get a decaying server-list.

this is what i use atm:

http://q2scene.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=427

a fair amount of qw/q2 players use this filters.txt as well. i don't think i could do without it :/. the ASE filter system rocks :>.

I dont see anything special about that set of filters. A dynamic tree of gametype/mod would be pretty much equivilent, much easier to configure, and would automatically support any new mods/gametypes that get created (Yea, I realise that doesnt happen often with qw/q2 these days!)

Not that it supports qw / q2 atm. :)

It's about applying multiple filters at once, example, filtering on:

- q2tdm servers running r1q2 with anticheat, no q2admin, in europe or max ping 50 (, sorted by ping). tick a few boxes and it shows what you want. q2dm is played on 4 different mods, we don't want trees per mod. the mod filtering is there, but optional. this setup doesn't seem like possible with your implementation :).

- qwtdm servers running mvdsv and ktx, in europe or max ping 50 (, sorted by players). qwdm is played on different mods as well, people don't want to check separate trees.

- q3cpma 1.45 servers in vq3 mode, no bots, no password, with pb, in europe or max ping 50, etc. (yes i noticed you can filter passwords and pb in maxbrowse.)

about configuring, people just copy my filters and are happy. done. :). new mods/gametypes? hand out updated filters. we want to filter most stuff out since it only clutters the interface. maxbrowse shows about 42 (?) q3 mods while most people only want to see 5. all the rest should be sorted or not sorted at all, by the 'other' tab.

implementing a filter system like ASE's would cost more time though. nevertheless, nice job on maxbrowse!

qw/q2/other support coming?

Possibly. Dunno tho, the QW / Q2 communities have gotten themselves in a mess with master server lists, with there not being a good single source of IPs - you have to merge multiple master lists together to find all IPs, which seems just stupid.

part of the problem as well is id's qw/q2 master servers being offline a lot. a server browser for these games should most likely merge info from several (common) master servers, with the option to manually add additional master servers to retrieve data from. ase unfortunately lacks this option. gamespy 3d has it, but lacks in a lot of other areas.

i've made some custom filters for q4 in ase (using server importing to get the servers, ase scanners and pingers are offline as we already know):

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rzavelli/stuff/quake/ase_modified_5_q4.jpg

http://q2scene.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=427

this is pretty much how i'd prefer it to look, but i guess we have different opinions. any chance of qw/q2 support in the near future? keep up the good work!

Some more download links:

* truecarnage
* thesilentservice
* quakeunity

It's a really useful tool, thanks AnthonyJ!

What Impulse and AnthonyJ said. Nice to have a server browser that only does what it's supposed to, instead of trying to throw as many features in as possible and totally cluttering up the interface. If I want to message someone I'll open Pidgin, if I want to listen to music I have Winamp.

nice app, puts ASE to bed for me

good work

Thanks for the release AJ.


"This version adds support for some Q3 engine games - Q3, ET, and Warsow,"

Doesn't Warsow use a modified version of the Q2 engine?

picky picky

Hemo predicted this ;)

Yes, technically its Q2. But from the perspective of a server-browser it mirrors q3 much closer than q2 (it uses the Q3 master protocol, and the server-query is closer to q3).

Ahhhh. :)

Hi Anthony thx for the server browser works great.
Just 1 thing, how do I browse the Q3 GTV´s? Can´t find anyone...

"Note that the TV filter now works for those games which support TV servers (ETQW, ET, Warsow, Q3 and Q4), but that for Q3 and Warsow the TV's don't report to the master server so you have to add the IPs in manually."

l2r

"but that for Q3 and Warsow the TV's don't report to the master server so you have to add the IPs in manually."

The reason why it cannot find them is because GTV servers report to master.geeteevee.com which is a non-existant address now, and so they dont report anywhere.

I've tried re-pointing the GTV server to talk to another master, but its using some unknown master protocol so I cant just point it at the Q3 master so I'd also have to write a new master server and get that hosted somewhere to make this work.

Sucks, doesnt it ;/

Ok, but it is no problem to write the gtv ip´s manually. Is it possible to save them in a favorite column some how?

Press the TV button, and they're all you see. :)

Thx, perfect :)

Just tryed it for first time, and it just works. Thanks!

Why do I always have a problem with it not saving favs? And is there a way to keep it from refreshing serverlist at startup?

edit: nm it started working somehow. I've always had this problem since version 1.0. see if it lasts.

Could be a permissions issue of some kind. It tries to write the servers to .xml files in the installation directory (C:\Program Files\MAXBrowse\ by default) - if it fails to write the file, it'll refresh on startup and not remember favs / passwords.

If you're using DIY shortcuts, prior to 1.2 it could have been saving them to the wrong dir if you set the start-in folder wrong - as of 1.2 it should now figure out the install dir even if you dont set the "start in" folder.

Yeah it was shortcut issue as I pinned it to start menu in XP.

wait ppl still play q4? april fools?

Reading skills?

"Q3, ET, and Warsow, as well as the latest D3-engine game, ETQW"

This browser has taught me that the NA Warsow players need more Dallas servers.

10q AJ. I'm ditching HLSW for this.

Q: Can "score_time" from server info be implemented as column in server list? That same column can be found in HLSW as "Limits" which includes timelimit / fraglimit / capturelimit. If there is ongoing game it updates realtime(when highlighted) with time remaining, current score, etc.

PS. Any chance of releasing portable version of MAXBrowse? I tried extracting the msi file and it seems to work but still writes to registry.

Not all servers are showing!

Coincidentally this particular server doesn't show in the ingame browser

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4796/ddddnw5.png

apparently some servers aren't sending any info to the master server, so they have to be added manually, the reason they show up in ASE is cause if 1 user adds a server, every user gets it.

just mark all your Q3 servers in ASE -> CTRL+V -> paste them into a txt file and import them into maxbrowse.

i get 24 cpma tdm servers in maxbrowse, while 45 show up in ASE. because of that, maxbrowse is no alternative for me :/

did you even read what i wrote?

also your ASE wont be able to find new servers anymore in a month cause yahoo shuts it down.

Maybe it doesn't talk to the master anymore ?

A good double-check of whether they're reporting to the master is whether they show up in qxmon - and "temple of boom" does not, so I dont believe this to be a maxbrowse issue, but instead a server issue. Someone should probably hassle the server admins of any (non-GTV) servers that dont show up, since its probably a misconfigured firewall / server config or something.

As said, ASE remembers manually added IPs, even if added by someone else... but the good thing is that you can import IPs from a list, using servers -> import, and then selecting a text file with newline separated IP:port values. So, you can get all of your manually added IPs from ASE into MAXBrowse fairly easily. (see #45)

Scripts like this one can also cause servers to periodically drop out of the lists which if you are unlucky you might cause you to miss a server or two.

On a side note, give me a fucking working ASE .. I even payed for this shit, and I'm lucky if I can get even 1 server .. in ANY game ..

nice! thanks

ASE removed :D

Very nice. I like server browsers the simpler the better.
Just one question, is it possible for the user to customize the protocol version it queries for? OFC, I ask it thinking in Warsow, so it doesn't need a MaxBrowse update for each new protocol version.

Not at the moment, no. This is something I've been planning to try and address, but havent done yet.

Its a pain that the Q3 master protocol doesnt support an "all versions" value the same as the D3/Q4 one does, as that way you'd be able to query them all and get the version dropdown working like it does for the other games.

Maybe I'll put in a request to LH on this as I guess its a fairly trivial patch to the DPMaster.

Someone can answer me WHY ASE is closing ?

And: does GameSpy has the same ability to players like ASE ? I mean : when one player add a server in GS - does all GS users will see those servers ?

ASE is closing because Yahoo say so (and they run the servers).

Servers should never need to be added manually. The only reason they're not showing up in MAXBrowse is that they are badly configured (except for GTV, which is unsupported + broken old software)

"The only reason they're not showing up in MAXBrowse is that they are badly configured"

By ISP ? Or by lame players ?

Could be either / both (assuming you mean "person who pays for server" vs "Server provider"), I know of a few reasons:
- Setting sv_master0 sv_master1 etc to values which do not include the id q3 master.
- Incorrectly configuring the server as a LAN server will stop it trying to heartbeat to the master server.
- People who want(ed) warez-q3 to work blocking routing to the master server (often confused with auth server).
- Firewall on the server not configured to allow outbound data going to the master.
- NAPT being used on a router between the server and the internet, remapping ports incorrectly so making the server always seem "dead"

This last one is a bit of a horrible issue. You can see some fairly hardcore debugging into the problem by a server-admin in this forumplanet post, which uncovers that some routers have Q3 specific hacks in them to make Q3 work (!!). I guess the older Q3 gets, the less routers will have this hack.

There isnt a good solution for this, other than "dont try to run Q3 servers behind a NAPT router if it doesnt work" - ie, turn off NAPT, and use straight NAT.

I am seeing some Q3 servers exhibiting this last issue, but I doubt its in the majority. The typical symptom of this is the same server showing up multiple times on different ports (some dead, some alive).

what does it take for a server to show up properly then? any settings a serveradmin should be aware about ?

see #62 ;)

thx, next question...

when i start q3 using nosmp.exe(which i have to even with cnq3.exe)

in all-seeing eye my program location is set to this:
"D:\spil\QuakeIIIArena\nosmp.exe" "D:\spil\QuakeIIIArena\Cnq3.exe"

How do i work around this in maxbrowse?

Tick the "force no SMP" checkbox in the configure games dialog. This should default to ticked for Q3 ;)

ah nice, thanks for your reply, i think others will benefit by knowing this as well.

Well yahoo is supposedly getting bought out arent they?

Could be why.

I can't run it :(. I get the "maxbrowse has encountered a problem and......" dialogue. I did manage to run it a couple of times(and i got to the "favs not saving" problem) before this issue but it refuses to start anymore.

Try clearing out the registry entries:
start -> run -> regedit.exe
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Q4Max\MAXbrowse <-- delete

Or, try deleting the XML files which store the server information (C:\Program Files\MAXBrowse\*.xml assuming default install location).

It not saving is a permissions error on the install directory probably (Vista?). Or could be related to you creating your own shortcut, possibly?

I got it to run and I think I know where the problem was. For a year probably I have two instances of Opera running. More specifically I always have one Opera.exe in the task manager running even if Opera isn't turned on(the proper one would appear correctly when turned on). It takes 2-3 Mb of ram and it didnt bother me up until now that I realised that that is probably why MAXbrowse isnt working. I think I used some program to check its path and I think it was the same path as it should be (C:\Program Files\Opera\Opera.exe). So if you have any thoughts on that they would be greatly appreciated. Btw it isnt a virus (I think) and I have another "two instances running" exe(ati2evxx.exe). Feel free to point and laugh since I have the sneaking suspicion that I deserve it.

P.S.: Favorities are saving all right now.

I made 3 favourite groups and added a servers to them, than i closed program and now I see that all my favourite servers and groups dissapeared, why is this happening and how can i save my settings ?

See #35.

Does it create the XML files for you? If not, any ideas why not? Vista?

it seems that it didnt create xml files when I run it for the first time, now i run it again and files have been created so i think it will be ok now, thx

Any chance COD4 will be added to the list of supported games? The in game browser is terrible :<

Perhaps. I've not looked into the cod4 protocol so I've no idea how close it is to the current code.

IS THIS GOOD?

Yes

My fav. servers are gone and now I can't save them anymore. Any proper conclusion after reinstall?

There is nothing special about the favs list - that is just tags stored against the server in the XML file, like any other property of it.

1. Does it rescan for servers from the master every time you launch the app?
2. Do other changes get saved? eg, does the number of players on the servers get remembered?
3. How are you launching it? Via a diy shortcut, or the one created by the installer?
4. Can you see the XML files in C:\Program Files\Maxbrowse\ ? Does your user have permissions to edit them? Do the datestamps change?
5. What OS are you using?