Agreed. NA really needs to have some online competition.

GGL = clanbase, GGL = Quake Haters, so good luck with that one.
The main tournament that surprised me was the WCG Christmas one. CEVO has made many attempts into Quake 4 and other than the KODE5 Qualifier was plagued with noshows and low attendance. They did Frag'em and Tag'em Tournament, WSVG Qualifiers and the KODE5 Qualifiers. Everyone banned together and got them to to the Frag`em Tournament and then no one signed up because I guess $10 is too steep for a Quake player. NA hasn't had real stability as far as tournaments go, there was #produels which was good as well as the Excello Cups every weekend which I personally ran. The main problem is getting people to show up, NA players have huger egos compared to their Euro counterparts so losing is something they try to avoid. So if a player gets a bad draw or possibly lost matches prior to a match they will just decide its best not to show which causes a headache for the organizer. Attempts to combat this have been tournament sign ups starting an hour before the tournament which works somewhat but limits the number of players that sign up. NA community can really only count on this model for holding tournaments right now due to the status and mindset of the current players. I am not sure if this will ever change but there used to be lots of people trying to better the situation but they all lost the patience and stamina to keep trying,myself included. It's the players job to show up and play and when they don't, it becomes extremely hard to continue trying to make their lives better.

GGL = clanbase

^ this

america sucks for quake. never will be good.

migrate to EU ;) j/k, there is an possibility to make your own cup/league through clanbase, what u need is inform ppl...

you don't need clanbase, why not DIY?

the support is nice

if people actually used clanbase like it was once used then it would be cool :o

clanbase is nothink without Tal and Godsmurf

irish admins spoil clanbase, pricks!

clanbase is too regulated :)

You just need to start lanning with friends, it will grow.

Ps. Anyone in or near london, I got my own place for lanning over weekends, probably space for 3 or 4 people, internet connection, etc. Might need one or two tables, but that's easy to organise.

it's like you're showing up to the dinner table ready for soup/salad and looking forward to the main course while the rest of the continent has already left the restaurant for the bars/clubs and found a nice girl to dance with.

you gotta realize that you're showing up to the scene fairly late. all the support and league activity you're talking about peaked between 2000 and 2004 in NA. the fact of the matter is that NA moved on long time ago, if it weren't for continued interest in europe, this game would have died long ago.

my point isn't to discourage your enthusiasm and tell you that you're too late for the meal. instead, i challenge you to be more pro-active and make something happen yourself. over the years, during the dull periods when little is going on, it's left up to the players to do something for their game. other than the cal/wcg/eswc events, every major NA online q3 league or tournament i can think of since the game began has been player-run; all of teamplay.net's many events, cached.net, challenge-us, eql/eql2, kit/kit2, res/res2, ggl, Liam's tournies (the name escapes me), #duel's tournies, and many more.

in 2006, there was a major dead time in NA q3, though many were getting revved up for winter cpl. two of us, hyze and myself, started running small nightly fun tournies with 8 regional players. after just a week, interest from other players around the country began pouring in. then after a few more weeks, we were running large production, 32 player tournaments with gtv, irc/scorebots, shoutcast, webpage/forums, news/demos on esr, and even sponsored prizes from companies/players -- the whole lot started by just 2 guys.

with the state the game is in, it's up to someone to step forward from the crowd of those just standing around complaining about the torch dropped on the ground and just pick it up to carry it on.

i do happen to be looking for someone to take over #duel very soon...