Dunno if it will be good for Q3...

It will not.

wow. youre never positive. mr negative.

Been waiting for this, hope it'll be good.

Lukin nie daj sie robic w bambuko, goscie ci kradna mapy :P

-if you get out teleporter you cant strafe hard to mega
-if you take rail you cant go to gl , only one way out (ur basically stuck)
- the jump from lg to rockets is not possible?

and i got terrible graphics atm?

i think if it gets a bit modified the map it might be able playable in q3 or quakelive

lg to rocket is possible, but it's not really easy.

play more cq3 :E

Map originally designed for cq3, but may be used in vq3
Textures will come athter geometry test

yay :33

use cq3 instead of vq3

mh downloading...

I hope he already asked Lukin for his permission..

I don't think it fits to the clunky vq3 movement..

should be played in cpm methinks, since we don't have any crouchsliding etc etc

It seems better with cq3.
The map is too small for CPM imo.

to small for cpm?

First: CPM does only have small or medium sized (duel) maps and
Second: Why requires CPM movement large maps?

I think the scale is too small. The ceiling in some corridors is too low.
But it's just my opinion..

cpm:

cant do tele to mh easily

vq3:

cant jump from LG onto the horizontal platform and to RL/50hp

found this in less than 5 seconds of downloading and quit the game, cba. generally ( didnt try with tectures) it looks like a very good port though.. nice :)

> cant jump from LG onto the horizontal platform and to RL/50hp

its possible in vq3 and very easy in cq3

Quite easy in vq3 too. First jump should be to highest point of little ledge and second jump slightly delayed, not a quick double jump like t2 tele.

Couple jumppads seemed to allow me to hit my head on above ledges and knock me back down, near LG and GL. Also, running+jumping up stairs to RA room from MH area was awkward. Didn't check all stairs to see if this was happening elsewhere but you might want to check it out.

I actually like this. Hurry up and ask Lukin so you can texture it and release a beta.

EDIT: Also, RG fix...put a lift there or maybe a button to activate lift by jumping and hitting head or have to shoot.

vq3:

Health bubble corridor(leading to ra) is way to small, and the ledge above that coridor kind of overlaps so you can't do a rocketjump straight up against the wall.

The stairway ceiling leading to plasma/lg ammo, from upper ra shards is to low, it should be higher, also, the ledge to the right of the stairway should be removed kind of a lame camping/hiding spot.

Something should be done at rail for vq3, so people can get up to gl, but that's not necesarry for cq3, isn't it possible to do per gameplay level structures? I know that if you vote teamplay in some maps, the geometry changes, as in cpm29.

EDIT: besides that, all jumps are perfectly fine in the alpha (monsoon_a4), lg-rl jump is fine, but no ramp is needed for vq3(again the geometry thing).

Tele to mega is fine, tele to ammo is fine, ya ramp to mega is fine, it's actually a pretty good map for q3:D

its just for fun and of course still not legal =)))
but i definitly will finish it =)
and im not mapmaker =)

There are like hundreds of maps created so far and NONE of them apart from "fairly new Hub" are being used now days in VQ3. I mean the map pool hasn't changed for ages - we have very old ztn, dm6, nodm9 (dm13), t4 and sometimes t2. Nobody wants to play anything else. Some people even still don't know hub, because it's STILL quite new to them (OMG.). It's just so sad.

I would love to see/play new maps in some tourneys, forced or not, but thats just not gonna happen. I agree that all of the current maps are really awesome, but I have enough of them. They were overplayed for years and became quite boring. Everybody knows how to play them - more or less. Everybody knows the pattern - where to go when the game is starting, how to position themselves at every point of the map, etc. Fairly new players have absolutely no chances to catch up with oldies.

It's sad. In Korea players have to learn new maps every new season of StarLeagues. That's why the 10 years old StarCraft still feels fresh. New strategies, new ways to play, new awesome, unique tricks. I would love to see that in Q3. Of course not that drastically - the map pool wouldn't be changed every half year or so. But for god sake, I would love to get rid of ztn, dm6, t4 and t2 already.

I had so much fun learning hub and I could catch up with rest, because the map was fairly new - not many players knew how to play it back in the days. And those days were great.

But people are too lazy so I'll keep on dreaming.

That's exactly what I've been thinking about for quite some time now. We don't need new game, we need new maps.

Very true, the only game that uses somewhat new maps at the highest level is CSS...Q4 also had Torment and that other map at the very end.

lvl has quite a few good/fun maps if you go through them. That's how we ended up with pukka, but it just didn't stick. <3 subdm1

rota3dm2

Agreed.

lmao @ Russian mapmaker Extone

wow, filefront must be the worst server in the universe :O

edit: ok so I finally managed to download it.
And I like it, I can imagine fast paced matches in monsoon @ vq3. I say lets give it a try...

Ok. So we have cpm24f, soon we will have monsoon (i suggest some gothic textures here <3. If you need help contact me, I used to do stuff like that for 3d graphicians...), we can choose pukka maps as well. Not entirely new but for sure more fresh than fucking ztn3tourney1.

What about this maplist: hub3aeroq3, pro-nodm9, cpm24f, monsoon, best pukkas, maybe other maps?

That's good list of maps and a connection between oldies and new. Just please someone make an important cup with these maps. Please.

have to agree with you except for the nodm9 part

Somebody should host a "JUTS ANOETHR MAPPOOL" Cup for vq3

well, ive put nodm9 only becouse its "new". not becouse i like it.

guys jesus, don't make lists including ztn, dm6 or t4. this maps should be GONE. dm6 is great map, indeed, but spawns are horrible and its SO old and SO overplayed. personally i like t4 becouse of rail and shit, but i can agree that it's "just disgusting" (c) vo0. same comes for ztn. ok, it's good, but no one can simply match hardcore russian ztners who know every fucking trick, every move, every timing there by heart. it's very strategical map as all we know, for sure we need map like that but what about letting ppl come with their own, new strategies?

cpm24f link ?

http://files.filefront.com/map+cpm24fpk3/;9830885;/fileinfo.html

i started texturing with arctic texture set, think it fits monsoon well
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20080711130900514la8.jpg

looks good

wow, this looks really great!

Looks awesome!

I WANT IT NOW :D

Can't see if you've widened the ra- health bubble corridor but please do so:D

awesome

q3 gfx > q4 gfx

Looks amazing! Great work! All it needs is a CPMA biohazard logo!! xDDDD

nice ;)
map is perfect with cq3
chg --> http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1567107

dunno how ppl can think about playing this in vq3
you can't jump out from rg to gl

my ideal mappool for cq3: pukka4, pukka2, monsoon, dm6, ztn

you can't jump out from rg to gl

True, making it even more of a risk to get rail, wich is just fine for vq3 ;D

dm6...wtf

next edl should include new maps. that's the only way.

my mappool(vq3):

- monsoon(pref w/ arctic text.)
- cpm24f(pref w/o ugly textures)
- hubaero(with plasma instead of rail)
- pukka(wichever people like best, I like 1)
- probably ztn3t1, the map is rail heavy, but it isnt that bad.

WOW, hubaero with plasma instead of rail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is in all seriousness such a cool idea; I 'd really like that!

Fast paced, interactive but enough of all the rail domination that is hubaero at this point.

How can this cool idea be tested and established?

Should be possible with a mapscript(not to be confused with mapconfig)

place this pk3 file in baseq3 folder, next
callvote map !aero1 - aero with PG
callvote map !aero2 - aero with BFG. in cq3 bfg is good gun
and some variations on old maps
callvote map !odm8 - ospdm8 + YA + PG
callvote map !pt2a - pro-q3toureny2 with 2 YA + Mega (70 sec) =)
if you have map "tribute" you can try also
callvote map !tr4

agreed

nodm19 dude!
CPM version of ztn.. it is fucking awesome!

http://www.promode.org/wiki/index.php/Image:nodm19.jpg

why am i not aware of this?

it's usually not played for some reason

like..?

Don't know. Too small?
I'd like to play it, but everyone goes "no".

Look awesome:D

Been playing this a bit. Fun map! Jumping to RA is sooo dangerous, I love it! Mid-air fun!

my comment was a bit harsh

yeah new good maps for new good gameplay, so monsoon for cq3!1

news ?

looks good.

(according to my 'never-played-1v1-opinion')

any download mirrors? can't download from filefront :(

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gj

just curious, does this have lukin's permission?

No idea, but he doesnt NEED it.

no, but do i really need it?
i think that reference to original map in readme will be enough

well in the mapshot call it Monsoon - by Lukin, remix by extone

readme credits are mèh

Its just not cool to steal the work of someone else...

You dont really need to ask him to recreate his map. There is nothing forcing you to get the rights to do it. Its all for the respect of the original mapper. Most of the time they simply say that there is no problem and some might even give you tips to make it work for gametype X.

Upload this to quakelive ? we need more maps in there. Also, can someone re do qzdm6, its a plain translation of pro-q3dm6 for quakelive, and its just too boring to play.

dm6 is just a bad map

dm6 ist ne gute map und die wird nie langweilig © beerham

stimmt einfach

uhh

ok, this map needs fixed. the tele to mega is gayed. map needs to opened up a bit more.
otherwise, i think this might actually be the first successful map that was q4 to q3 lol. not bad.

PLAY MORE PROMODE, BITCHES

Placebo Effect next pls

Im pretty sure that will be gay on Q3...

it was originally going to be a cpm map

its obvious that he was talking about vq3

not sure how well that work work, since most corners in Placebo worked very well with the crouch sliding.

I mean, no harm in someone making it and testing it.

But I think it might work better with CPM.

=\

alpha 5

can't download from there :<

can you make sure you are using no copyrighted textures (id software) in this version so it can be used standalone.

Thanks

final imo, but still the ra-5hp corridor is to narrow.

final? needs a lot more texture work and polishing
right now it looks too blocky

nice ;)
but i found a problem with lg jumpad
http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=3UCJZHUS

also i think you have to enlarge 2 zones
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8956/20080719121747063qk4.jpg
in q4 i remember being able to see the platform

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1986/20080719121733606gx6.jpg

needs ramps on stairs edges like in the original q4 map (useful for cq3 who has ramp jumps too)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3711/20080717192600369ly1.jpg

please no, please no, please no, fuck ramps

what's wrong with ramps?

Why not? It'd make the atrium a bit more dynamic. Catching someone mid ramp-jump with RL or LG would be an interesting situation. Also would make map a bit faster by allowing a route up and out of atrium quickly.

f1

I can't load the map, it aint in the maplist or anything. Please help a spastic : /

/callvote map monsoon_a5

AWESOME SO FAR!

Couple things (For VQ3)

LG to Rocket jump won't work unless you shoot a plasma shot at the ramp while you jump on it.

I think you should somehow make it so it's make-able.

Rail to upper area doesn't work either, but, that's not as big of a deal. Might make it a bit better, knowing once you're in there, you can't get out (Unless weapon assisted).

The textures are okay, but I'm really not a fan of the brick walls. Maybe something a little more futuristic would look better?

If you make a few more changes to the map like the ones above, I'd be more then happy to make that map my default map for the Chicago Q3 duel server I'm purchasing soon.

=D

Cheers, i tried that but for some reason it wasn't working, is now.
Some sight lines are very different from the original and don't know what sort of impact this will have on gameplay. MH to LG is very open while above RA down to teleport is very restricted. Plays shitty in vq3 but was really funny with cpm, but then again i was just running about and aint that what cpm is all about?

BTW The cheers was for Gillz but esr is on crack again so it would not let me reply.....Gaaayyyyyyhaaaaay

could you please put this up somewhere else? filefront just keeps telling me no download servers available.