I wouldn't five a fuck either.

indeed

i would high five a fuck

not 1 single games developer does? they care about profit, pro gaming is still by far a niche market! Yeah theres millions of gamers all over the world but 99% of them including us are just casual gamers!

why waste time and money on a competitive aspect when all you care about is selling the game, doom3 was a flop as an esport but as he says its the greatest seller for ID, yes beating quake 3.

Blizzard does ;D as well as Valve and Epic used too :p

in the long run it makes people change attitude, at least thats what i think, after buying doom3 and quake4 i really regreted those 20 euros after :p i could have sent them to Sujoy to get a proper host for esrelity!

Valve and Epic? How? Explain plz :)

However I really think Bungie should be included in the list of developers who care.

Valve because they are always updating theyre games ( steam helps i know) and they do listen to people on their forums :D Epic because ... well forget about epic ;D

mmmm you're saying that a game like CS had some proper updates? Are you crazy?

Blizzard does ;D

hardly, 2 years to get a patch for some seriously broken shit.

the grass is always greener on the other side

it always seems some group/game/company/country is doing things extraordinarily well then what your in. Even pro starcraft in Korea is in decline but people continue to use that as the "this is what we should be" example.

how is it in decline? the competition has finally gotten to the point where one guy doesn't shit on everyone for a year straight

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2008/05/133_24407.html

whole thing turned out to be a bunch of bullshit actually, ace just recruited a shitload of pros that will be starting their service soon. the whole ace thing was only a rumor that it going be disbanded when boxer left the service and it was 100% wrong

just because ratings are down a little bit doesn't mean the whole thing is shot to shit

I hope they mean at least 60hz. Cuz others do their SUPER HI TECH GRAPHICS for 30hz.
I also hope they mean ingame ticks like sv_fps 30 in q3 then you can double to 120hz without too much trouble.

60hz is fine by me

i dont really care aslong as the game is good, and it means i can use my lcd with less of a dis-advantage.. right now i use crt at 120hz but id prefer to use lcd, its got such a better picture

true - i played on a crt again a while back and the colours looked washed out and meh :/

Who are the pro gamers, lulz the whole wait, there is none ahaha...

dont need to be pro to be competitive

Sure, they may not, but why should they? They should give a shit about staying in business, so they can continue to provide for themselves. Professional gaming isn't a sustainable market, so why, as a CEO, should he chase that market?

i meant people that play it competetivly meaning and not in the im a pro Fatal1ty alike player. And i believe he said it with that intention

I mean, I get what you're saying, but the same thing applies; the Quake community has proven to be a dwindling group of folks; they want to bring players IN, not cater to the diminishing group that they currently have.

Isn't he the one that thinks using picmip settings in q3 is cheating?

RASCIST!

To make such a blaming statements you need atleast to spell "give a fuck" correctly, young man. Oh... I know, you should use "id doesnt give a duck" next time.

To make such a blaming statements

Sit down.

Oh, shut the fuck up, Mr. grammar :E

That's "Mr. Grammar" to you.

Young?

i dont care iether

Someone missed the point. 120hz doesn't make you "OMGZ AIM", 120hz is just a lot healthier. And that's about it.

Low monitor frequency is not harmful for your eyes, if that's what you think.

harmful for my head though, CRT at 60hz gives me headache and makes my eyes hurt :/

indeed but I think some people are under the misconception that 60hz on a lcd is bad for your eyes which is untrue

i would give one either... the dont bring you money :ugly:

but seriously they to care about pro players but dont just do everything they want, because then it would be unplayable for "normal" gamers.

I play with 160hz in qw and its pretty essential, if I play with 60 hz it's a big disadvantage both gaming wise and "eye wise".

I honestly believe that anyone who is satisfied with 60 hz is completely clueless, it's so easy to spot when something is 60 hz compared to just 85

On a CRT yes, but not so much on an LCD. On an LCD it's much more about how responsive the screen is as a whole. I've been using my 22" Samsung for a good while now and I would say that I do not suffer from any gameplay deficiencies and that's after I was using a 19" CRT @ 120hz. Don't get me wrong, I'd still love to use 120hz, but 60hz on an LCD is no where near as horrible as most of you make it out to be, especially after you get used to it. LCDs just feel different overall.

I think the main emphasis id is making is towards console games. Seeing as how TVs run at such lower refresh rates than CRTs, I think 60hz is a great goal for them to set.

most modern tvs run at 100 hz and why do you think 60 hz is a great goal for them?

because most other games run at 30, 60 looks really smooth on most of these console games. As long as the game doesn't require as much screen jerking as the quakes.

"most modern tvs run at 100 hz "
No they don't.

they do

The majority of TV owners on the entire planet do not have tv's that run at 100hz. I would estimate probably less than 1% has a tv that runs at 100hz, and I have no idea what I am talking about so there.

nope

liez !

just five them a message then stuntz.. five em hell....

no one gives a fuck about pro gamers*










(or you)

if i would work for id i really wouldnt give a fuck about pro-gamers (ESPECIALLY THESE WNB PRO GAMERS)





all u do is just cry and whine and say fuck you id (well... most of you, some are still people)

they do..... they gonna make a strong come back!

stay positive!

todd says.. buy a lcd monitor...

That's nothing right now.

Pretty soon it's going to be...

"Todd: Everybody loves to play FPS games online,and the pros use those keyboards and mice, or whatever."

brilliant

q3 runs at 30hz so whatever.

you talking about sv_fps?

I think he was speaking about the tickrate, which is set by the server. You can have different tickrates and fps, the main issue with doom3 was the max fps of 60, not the 60hz tickrate.

default 20 i think

let the eyecancer begin!

rofl @ guys thinking this is about monitor refresh rate

wait till they hear quake 1 runs at 10hz

lets act like we know nothing and enjoy the next generation screens with names like ultraflash or up'n'down