Eerik to Multihunter:
Hiya,

I've been banned and am not sure why. Could you give me further details please? We're in second place on the server WW race at the moment, so I am anxious.

I've also messaged multihunter, so please disregard if they are handling it.


-Eerik

You have been banned due to sharing out your account password.
Don't say you didn't because I see all login details. :)
fast way to sort this is to admit and not do it again.
who logged in?
because we havent been doing it.
and why didnt you ban us before?

Because i'm a new game admin who has only just looked.
desertsands and TMC logged into the account
Hiya,

I have had a few responses back and forth with MH2 on this now, so I apologise for the long reply as it's a summary.

He says that we have shared passwords with desertsands.

She has been our sitter on several occasions and we hers. We (Andrew and Eerik, I am his double) have never logged in to her account otherwise.

It's possible that she has our password. However, she wouldn't have logged in with it recently (post rw/tullia banning) and I would be amazed if she's done it even once since the eerik account was banned in June. We learnt our lesson then and have not done it since.

DS is from the UK and Eerik + I are in Estonia. There's no way that DS has logged in from this country, I'm sure a whois lookup on the IP will show that.


-Andrew

Hiya,

Can you tell me when that happened? I am 99% sure that it was BEFORE we were banned in June for this. Once we were banned then, we stopped. I am sure that we have not logged into anyone elses since that time.

If their logins were before our earlier ban, then I believe we've already server our punishment. If the logins were after that, all I can offer in our defence is that we didn't do anything ourselves. If someone else had our password we cannot control if they logged in to our account. We have been acting in good faith.


-Eerik (well, Andrew)

Within the last few days, you logged into desertsands also, I can see this. :)
that is not true.
can not be true - to check i asked her for her password and it is something ive never heard before.

Hiya,

I don't dispute that you have more information on this than us. I'm not arguing, but I simply don't see how this happened. I have never logged into DS account, and neither has eerik.

The only times we've been on it are when we've been set as sitter, which has happened multiple times. DS says that nobody even has her password.

I worked for the security department at PokerStars (the world's largest online poker site), and I know you have a lot of data on us. I also know that people who lie to security are always obvious. I am being completely honest with you in my replies. I have never logged into DS account, and neither has Eerik.


-Andrew

the quickers this gets admited (I see your login remember) the quicker you get unbanned

the thing is, I see all logins, many by you are not registered as a sitter, means you used the password.
Hiya,

I do not have DS' password. Eerik does not have DS' password. DS does not have our password (she says, though I don't trust her as I do Eerik).

The system should show us logging in to DS account as sitter. If the system is showing us logging in to DS account without being a sitter, then your system has to have a bug in it. We have added and removed sitters dozens of times in the last week, perhaps this causes a problem? Some are suggesting in our IRC channel that it may be a bug related to same computer usage?

That's all I can say on this I guess. I hope that you look again at the data and look again at your system. I find it hard to believe your system DOES have such a bug as it's been going for so long.

I am a sensible man, I do not have a problem admitting guilt if I am guilty. My word means a lot to me though, and I did not break the rules as you are stating.

Somebody else may have logged into our account, but we have not logged in to anyone elses since we were banned in June.


-Andrew

unbanned until I review futher