Yeah but only women are boring enough to answer quizzes.

a quiz? great! where can I sign up, can i win sometinhg?

i know super 'cool' people who play video games more than me (rockband and suchlike), but when they see quake3 with picmip 16 they still consider it pretty weird looking. 4 years ago if i explained it to them they would have looked at me strange, but now many people can see an attraction in it, which is really cool.

astz would beg to differ

tom you must be liking that canuck weed, tripping like a motherfucker.

perhaps but that's besides the point. it's all about how you approach these things man

http://www.artfulgamer.com/wp-content/uploads...enkins.jpg

No, because they aren't stereotypes, nerds.

I tell noone about quake 3 and the people I do talk to about it I have never met in real life, nor do I ever plan to. I can count on 1 hand how many people know I play a video game (that I actually know) and most of them are women. I think I used to care but now video games just don't come up in conversation.

And for the record, chicks most definately do not dig quake.

liefje does
i say we vote her in as the goddess of ESR

i guess it depends on how well you know them..

I could post a lot of proof to the contrary regarding the last line... but oh well..
Everyone I know knows I play. To each their own, though, i guess.

I'm talking about normal girls, not girls that play video games. I'm talking about women.

2 of my last 3 girlfriends were really surprised when they found out I "play video games", as the stigma goes, even though I explained it was just 1 game. I think its the fact that I had been playing the same game for years. It was viewed as a colossal waste of time. Honestly, I have to agree at this point that the first 3 or so years I played I was wasting my time. Now it's a hobby and a release resulting in about 4 matches a week.

As far as not telling anyone, people don't want to hear about things you do that in certain circles may be viewed as an unsavory way to spend free time. I have a lot of friends that believe video games kill the imagination and stifle creativity.

Some of the coolest, most attractive, empowered *(read, well educated, well employed) females I know are hardcore gamers. That's all I'm saying.

yea keep believing it.

Finally the mystery of The Sims games always being in the sales charts is unveiled.

I think hardcore quake 3 players still fit pretty well into the nerd stereotype.

I think there is a large difference between gaming, gamers and people who play games. It's true that many people from all walks of life play games, but 'gamers' as we understand them are still the 16-30 age group and the majority are male. When people talk about 'gaming' becoming mainstream the words being used are being interpreted totally different by the various groups. Those who consider themselves to be gamers see it from their pov of hardcore highly skilled competitive people, not the average joe who has some fun playing on the wii with the family. I don't think the definition of 'gamers' that this site uses will ever become mainstream, although everyone in the world probably plays 'games' at some point.

what's the difference between competitive and hardcore highly skilled competitive?

Not a lot apart from desire and belief.

I used to play unreal at a very high level in team based modes, i was competitive and enjoyed winning, but i never considered playing it as a career. The distinction i was making was between members of this site who consider themselves to be 'gamers' and the talk of games companies and marketing departments that consider everyone who plays a game to be a 'gamer'