Was going to rate 10 for the name, but now that I actually read the post, I have to rate it 0.

is there supposed to be a movie, I can't tell?

1 for effort.

2 for drama

it looks like best evidence you've got so far

What with there being no attached file and all. Ohh I see what you did there !

yeah, i wasnt expecting much but that was far more suspicious than i expected

And just to keep the drama going, I'm still waiting for the follow up to this. It's been more than a minute :(

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1662543#pid1662543

now i hope you get raped by a triceratops instead.

... and not with it's penis.

*not only

should probably add the rhino from my previous "i hope you get raped by..." post as well.

wow.. keep em coming

clan 519 appears to be on some sort of holy quest
anyone have a time machine handy?
this fella would fit right in with the Inquisition

common don't be so dense there loveless... there's about 50 other people on a quest to prove kgb didn't cheat. there's two sides to the argument, and you're on one of them.

agreed.

but i have a sweet hat and that protects me from any accusation

one side has an argument and the other side has baseless claims.

ok this actually does look like some sort of auto-aim.. his cursor seems to move in a pre-conceived pattern, and seems to lock on to a certain point of the hitbox. however, if it was more zoomed in, i'd be able to judge a little better.

Yes, I see it now.
It's definately a pattern.
I think those are actually letters.
They spell something:
- M - B - O -T - T -

Hmm seems cut off, we need the second before and after this clip to make sense of it.

Clan519 if you'd please, we are on to something here!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Even I can aim like that for two seconds and that says a lot.

HOLY SHIT HE TRACKED HIM FOR A SECOND???? A WHOLE SECOND?? OH SHI-

I think we'll have to revisit all published fragmovies that are any good and ban everyone using lg.

theres nothin wrong...

Pretty sure i've heard this somewhere. Oh yeah at school.

"practice makes perfect"

He's practiced with lg a lot and theres his reward for the practice. Having idiots like you think he's cheating.

http://challenge-tv.com/index_old.php?mode=de...demo=28217

Here is a demo of jon4than versus zoomer. Neither of these guys were cheating but you can find several situations identical to the above if you watch them at .4 timescale. Watching zoomers POV you can see in the first minute some of the most brutal lg when jon comes out of the lg portal. The rest of the demo from jon's pov is quite surreal. The preciseness of his railgun and tracking of his mg + lg should make you cry "CHEATS"

I could make videos but frankly it's not worth it.

it SHOULD make you cry cheats, because everyone in that thread of that video was saying it too. rofl, you can't see that they are both cheating? I would love to see a lan demo of jon4thon aiming like that. zoomer was cheating like it was going out of style, mad cursor lock on the player model. you basically found the one demo of the polish versions of kgb and walter playing.. congrats and thank you for making my arguments for me. LOL

Mate, these guys have both lanned tons and neither of them cheat. It's beyond belief how full of shit you are.

http://challenge-tv.com/index_old.php?mode=de...demo=35380

Here is another set of demos for you to wrap your head around. Why does Lugia's aim seem so similar to kgbs?

you keep picking people who have been accused of cheating.. why don't we compare to toxic's aim, or cooller or jibo or strenx? none of them aim like kgb.. isn't that weird to you? maybe you are the one who should be wrapping your head around the players you are chosing (nobodies, accused of hacking) vs real players who don't aim like that AT ALL.

I chose them because they were accused of cheating, but turned out not to be cheaters. Since it's so hard for you to believe that people can aim as well as kgb I showed you some people who legitimately aim just as well if not better. Not to mention those you named.

vamp1re.. i hereby allow you to rofl your ass off, this is what this guy believe in the matter:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1661013#pid1661388

Comment #219 @ 20:33 CET, 21 February 2009 >>

By Gay Pride clan519 | - Reply to #93
Let me introduce you to something called reality.. people don't get accused of hacking if they don't do it.

I can't believe he actually said that:D:Dd

haha, I love minky.

I chose them because they were accused of cheating, but turned out not to be cheaters.

To go all devils advocate on this thread... if you play on a LAN one time, cheating suddenly becomes physically impossible?

strenx used to cheat hardcore :p and i'm pretty sure jon is (and was) legit albeit i found it hard to believe myself.

Man youre so stupid it hurts :D

no i wont clap my hands...that little cheating fairy can die for all i care.

(yes that was a peter pan reference)

are you sure, you're not trolling? 'cause this is class A comedy.

stop being so butthurt that your aim sucks

of the 12 or so mouse movements he makes in that clip, only 2/3 follow the model perfectly. GG

this is rediculous, youre assuming you can get people to jump on your "he's cheating!" bandwagon by posting that one second clip of gameplay from someone with a "decent" lightning gun aim.

I didnt see anything AT ALL special about that video clip..

Just got around to watching the vid, and it's the same as your other vid, so really no point in repeating myself
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1662615#pid1662615

"A drowning man grips a straw."

could just hang out your dick for a free handjob then

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

edit: hehe

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1664282#pid1664351

i can assure you, the only ones laughing like that will be kgb and walter for having gotten away with the worst case of online hacking since, well, ever.

You've avoided accusing Walter until just now - why is that?

start delivering better so called proof then, detective

this could be your big break through.. you'd get promoted, get a higher salary.. get on the floor with the big boys..

if with "worst case" you mean the case yiou are trying to make then I'll agree.

if you mean most obvious, I can remember some in the last years that were much more obvious.

gb2halo

Most of these amazing "lockon" aims are just the players abusing the fact that that they're going in the same direction and don't need to adjust their crosshair much. I've noticed that in at least two of your videos that the only time he's hitting the same spot is when they're falling..

The obsession over this is downright sad. There is literally no one except you and the the anonymous guy from Tennessee even arguing for this rofl

Its retarded. when you drop off a ledge in Quake,there is little thing called gravity.

Gravity is this little number which results in predictable rates of descent, so in these circumstances its possible to attain higher rates of accuracy as the movement is 100% predictable.

Ok-ish trailer, when will the full movie be out?

+frag(nice aim!)
+no shitty choice of music
-config
-slowmo(sure hope the full movie won't be all slow-mo..)
-no ingame sounds
-few frames where console was visible

But because of the nice frag, I voted 7.

ppl like u destroy all good things in gaming u fucking obsessed idiot.

[+] 4 u coz u dont cheat.

im 100% sure this isnt a cheat.

super evidence im rly fucking impressed. LOL LMAO....

Is this a troll or just stupidity?

both?

no

now it's just getting sad.

The harder you try the deeper you drown.
Everyone makes mistakes, it's part of being human.
Swallow your pride and admit that you were wrong since it's the best thing you can do right now.

Looks like good aiming that happened to land there and is neither as perfectly "dead center lock" as you describe it (as far as one can tell from the vid) nor lasting a duration worth much.

If I'd have to call that a cheat I'd be pretty torn about my own demos and I'm interested in what you think too. From the first two demos that came to mind:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HLVKXC5Y

And if none of that has your alarm bells ringing but kgb doing basically the same stuff* does, why?

*Way more often/in actual competitions/against better opponents of course, but he's also played infinitely much more Q3 and I'm a nobody I guess.

DEFINITE AUTOHACK TO ME, BROSEF

you said it man, 10x in one game vs a top player in the country? show me that from anyone else..

#64
so where are these "10x in one game" then? you haven't even shown ten instances in all your videos combined, and even then they're from different matches, just a clip here and there.

not to mention most of them are ridiculous, like the one where he's "aiming through the floor" when he's getting fucking railed and knocked back and simply doesn't have time to let go of his attack button. even if he's got good reflexes, it's still going to look like forever in your slow-mo vid, plus he didn't have to stop shooting at all if he didn't want to since he moved in again immediately.

all that's happening is you mumbling about how obvious it is and how often it happens, yet you've got nothing except a couple of clips which everyone but the obviously challenged per1klez is laughing at, including people who clearly could spot a cheat if it really was there as with napalm3d.

as for "show me that from anyone else", the guy basically specializes in aiming (i assume from what i've seen, don't know him personally) and plays a shitload, does it not make sense that he's got something out of it? show me people constantly controlling maps, items and players like cooller... no? well fuck, i guess his wallhack and item timers are proven then! sure he's been at lans but that doesnt mean he didn't use it at home.

in before "kgb isn't as good at lans": if you rely as much on aim as he does and have to play on a different setup, different chair, desk, everything (even temperature), you don't only have the regular "lan pressure" but should also be extra crippled if you're not good (natural or trained) at adapting. and don't tell me there aren't loads of "real pro's" who have uploaded demos of online games where they're obviously playing more relaxed and better and pulling awesome stuff at a higher rate than at some noisy sweaty/cold lan running on caffeine instead of sleep for days.

not that this matters since you've made up your mind and only see what you want to see...

why so proxy kgb? fdc4.freeproxies.org

anyway here's the demo:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1661605

the times in the demo are posted, excluding the mg @ 1:45

That's seven times in one demo where kgb has extremely bot-like aim out of nowhere. The mg tracking @ 1:45 is virtually proof positive (a clone of Napalm3d aim), and the fact that similar aim occurs several times, even for a split second, screams bot. Hell, the people on gtv keep saying it even.. looks like a bot, 'lock on', etc etc. The fuck am I even bothering for anymore, people see what they want to see.

I asked Reptile to have Fox watch that demo and get back to me. I'd love to hear his opinion on it.

people see what they want to see.


sweet sweet irony?

http://www.starfall.com/

"*Way more often/in actual competitions/against better opponents of course, but he's also played infinitely much more Q3 and I'm a nobody I guess."

Shafting a noob strafing left and right like a skill 2 Crash, sure you're going to have times where your crosshair is going to hit them hard and in the middle. Doing it vs a player who can beat cooller while under extreme pressure, and it looking the way it does (@ 1:45 in http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1661605) is an entirely different story.

"Beat cooller"

Yeah

he did? and it was on LAN no less..

Yeah but not when it was something special.

#70

Shafting a noob strafing left and right like a skill 2 Crash, sure you're going to have times where your crosshair is going to hit them hard and in the middle.

because the difference between a normal player and a 'pro' is totally in how they move in open firefights and even midair in jumppads? give me a break.

The mg tracking @ 1:45 is virtually proof positive (a clone of Napalm3d aim)

easiest track possible, vertical fucking jumppad. similarities to napalm3d - about one (crosshair moves more or less perfectly in sync for a brief moment - note 'brief', unlike nap's lengthy locks). differences - loads, not even going to recount it all. but lets mention how nothing changes direction, unlike with nap? or how, when the crosshair goes out of sync, it does so only by very little signifying that kgb is actually in on the action and moving the mouse as he should? again unlike nap who would totally detach himself, or even shake the crosshair left and right to get it to let go of the lock.

2:40-2:45 - watch the crosshair close track the model around the corner

what are you even implying here? that he should either not shoot at all or shoot at the walls for no reason too? nothing fucking happens here, so no comment needed either... wow...
chance is jumping in straight forward lines from point to point, no strafing, nothing unpredictable, no nothing.

6:10 - locking hard here several times - after chance picks up ra he gets the full on crotch lock for a split second.. then as he comes up the stairs he gets another solid lock in the face.

exaggerate more please. for someone who was talking about locking perfectly to pixels and shit you sure are generous dishing out the term. never, even for a split second here, is anything being 'perfect' as with napalm3d.
in the beginning chance is difficult to hit and predict - and gosh, kgb doesn't hit and doesn't look at the right place when approaching the stairs looking down after him - and after taking red armor he performs the stunningly complex strafing pattern of (from kgb's view) going left a bit, right a bit, dying. surely one must have at least ten world championships under the belt before having a shot at following along with that...

8:22 - jumps thru doorway and finds an instant perfect bead

instant perfect what? after hearing chance go there, and hearing him be there as he approaches, kgb jumps in, spams and completely misses with the lg, twice. then, having clearly seen chance, he goes in again, misses once more but quickly readjusts and, entirely imperfectly but well enough to hit the backing in a straight line chance, takes him out.

8:27 - drops down and gets a center model lock, way too sticky

way too sticky how? the tracking of the entire scene is very organic and the one time it kind of jumps to a spot on chance (happens to be quite in the middle) and away again you're just seeing what happens all the time in demos, even pov ones. my demos are full of it and i'm sure even yours are.
as for the mystical 'pro' movement that is extra hard to hit, this is again a typical case. begins with chance jumping in, straight line. ends with chance landing and being pushed by the lg and dropping before doing fuck all.

11:40 - chance drops down from ra and if you timescale 0.2 you can see the same dead center pixel lock on the crotch again

jumps. straight line. both players falling at the same velocity. does not mean it will happen, but can - and it did. woopdedoo.

14:05 - sticky crosshair again.. way too sticky to track someone at distance like that precisely

again with the too sticky man, what fucking part was too sticky this time? the one where he was missing the again(!) straight and predictably strafing chance most of the time, focusing so hard on trying to aim that he doesn't dodge the rocket that direct hits him?


basically you're just grabbing at anything here and trying to 'explain' how it could have been cheating, but failing miserably because you're wrong and the very sources you cite (demos) do not show what you wish/think they do. for an 'oldschool' gamer you are frankly terrible at truly understanding basically anything about any of this, but your desire to explain kgb with cheats and ability to fool yourself with your arguments prevents you from ever seeing or accepting this. so basically i am not posting this to you i guess, but rather people who are reading your crap - as unnecessary as it may be, seeing as neither you, nomadic or per1klez will change your minds anytime soon, while... everyone else who has commented already see this for what it is.

oh, and i'm not kgb, nor have i ever spoken to him a single time in my life, nor do i have anything to gain from this... except 'seeing something that just isn't right', a concept i stole from one of your earlier comments except i removed the part where you're trying to do good from the wrong fucking side.

So you can't see it for it what it is.. no big deal. You don't think kgb bots, I do. You are some anonymous on a proxy, I'm a well known player who is swearing up and down that nobody I have ever watched looks like this while aiming. Show me a demo where someone else does this kind of precise, tiny (like 0.0002 of inch) movement tracking to hit lg or mg. Please, do it.

#93 (sorry nicky, the 'reply' button does nothing here)

so you're not going to rise above this pathetic level. guess that's enough time wasted on you then, have fun thinking you did remotely well in this discussion.

as for e-penises, my arguments stand on their own and who types it down matters fuck all except to shallow idiots like you, who ironically i have no clue who you are (yes, i know of 519) or why you think you would be known apart from being loud, stubborn and wrong. i have also played fps games since their dawn, am quite sure i have 'achieved' far more than you as far as they go, am certainly more respected and there is not a shadow of a doubt that i know infinitely much more about both what is humanly possible and what cheats do, as you prove with every post. i have never seen you play, but again judging by your comments, i would destroy you aimwise. i know what i'm talking about in this matter, and while you think you do, you fucking don't. not saying you don't have a clue, because you do, but a clue is all there is and you're making all the wrong assumptions left and right.

and still, none of that shit matters (which is why i don't give a fuck whether you believe anything i'm saying about myself or not and prefer to remain anonymous since i'm stooping to a really unsuitable level in order to be on your wavelength) to anything, because what we have is demos of a player and all anyone can do is point out things, give an opinion or fact, and explain or prove the claim. that right there is what you've been failing at all along. as for the stupid questions and request you throw out every now and then; the burden of proof is yours and as has been said a million times by now by loads of people - your demo timestamps and video clips so far do not only prove nothing, but are downright embarrassing. step it up and show something real or move the fuck on.

last post unless you dig up some more equally ridiculous demos and timestamps to destroy. if i was you i wouldn't even waste my time looking though since you can't even tell the difference between what's in here and what's in f.e napalm3d's demos.

you're a fucking colorblind trying to explain and prove to everyone else that green looks exactly like red...

Caring enough to both post anonymous and use a proxy is just as bad, really. His idiocy doesn't deserve this much care. Just casually mock him like the rest of us.

#100
fine. you're mostly right i guess. no more effort unless it looks like he actually starts to convince non-retards.

Because then you would start to get worried (kgb behind proxy).

"i have also played fps games since their dawn, am quite sure i have 'achieved' far more than you as far as they go, am certainly more respected and there is not a shadow of a doubt that i know infinitely much more about both what is humanly possible and what cheats do, as you prove with every post."

yep, you're kgb and you fucking bot people online.

you fucked up dude, mg @ 1:45. no fucking way that is purely human aim, end of story. you got caught. just fucking admit it and end this sad charade. day by day i have talked to people and added names to the ranks of those who can see what i'm explaining. your time is up sonny boy, just come out of the closet and admit you're an embarrassingly bad hacker with no scruples.

day by day i have talked to people and added names to the ranks of those who can see what i'm explaining.

... wow. That's not sad at all.

what, that top players who know me personally have msg'd me asking if i'm sure? i guess the sad part is, they couldn't see it for themselves but always suspected it.

fucking kgb has been accused so many god damn times of hacking its not even funny.. RA3, freezetag, ctf, osp, cpma.. every single mode he played he blatantly hacked people and got called out for it. this isn't some crusade coming out of nowhere, this is the final curtain call on a dickless wonderhacker who needs to be publicly shamed.

Keep trying to justify it to yourself.

the fact that they're "top-players" doesn't make it any less sad.

I willing to bet that there are a lot of people on this site who were called hackers in nearly every game they played online.

well, maybe except MS Hearts and Blobby Volley.

The point is until you provide conclusive evidence you are no better than a 12 year old butthurt cs kiddie.
No matter how many other butthurt kiddies share your view.
Oh, btw witchhunter in medieval times a lot of followers, too. didn't make them right, did it?
Or more recently lots of Americans believed in WOMD...

You're the saddest person here...

And from your use of 'belittelling' words like 'sunny boy', I can tell you are really frustrated as well.

You said what kgb did isn't humanly possible, but it is.

People have done stranger shit than that:P

no worries, edited

in what part of the universe are you a well known player? i don't know you ... and i heard from a lot of players, be it europe, USA, china, or even Japan and South Korea.
where do you fit in?
even IF you're a well known player, you lost all your credibility by now.

also: do you watch every demo in super-slowmo?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KWKCIU5K

That's a nice video of Lexer hitting a brutal shaft on LAN with a zero ping, but nothing about it strikes me as odd.

His crosshair moves around a bit, and follows the opponent pretty well, but never in an over-precise way where it moves at the exact same speed as the opponent is moving.

That's how you can see a bot, the crosshair will move on to the opponent in a straight line and then start moving in unison with the player model, even if just briefly. It looks "locked on". The whole point of my slowing down the clips I post was to exaggerate this, but nobody seems to notice anyway.

The only odd thing about your video is full speed sounds on a slow motion replay, which makes it seem like he hit that shaft for 5 seconds solid.

That's how you can see a bot, the crosshair will move on to the opponent in a straight line and then start moving in unison with the player model, even if just briefly. It looks "locked on". The whole point of my slowing down the clips I post was to exaggerate this, but nobody seems to notice anyway.

That's not what bots look like...

That's what they used to look like before world war 2.

Ever heard of the term 'humanized aim'?..

how would you know?

It's something every ET player knows about.

those where my thoughts exactly as I was watching the demo. What 'instant bead'? what 'Crotch lock'?

8:27 - drops down and gets a center model lock, way too sticky


That sticky lg feeling is a network command in his config, that helped me a lot with lg when I played with 97 ping.

If I can find a way to go to my old pc and get a demo where I can prove this, I will. Until then

http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot0024ad9.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=srkp...dm1yy3.jpg

I guess I cheat as well then.

41 shaft iz:D

but acc doesn't say anything about your actual aim
worst player in the world could get 60 acc

Lugia is not that bad... Why does everyone say that?!?

..what?:P


aah I get it... lol

HOLY SHIT YOU SHOT A 41 LG IN CTF???

OMFG I CAN ONLY SHOOT A 45 LG ON LAN, HOW DUZ U DO IT???

45 acc on lan
what an achievement

I see, proof?

what the fuck? this video shows nothing like a bot...

lol ive done stuff liek that plenty of times....isnt too hard w\ cpma +xerp

xerp does nothing, just a placebo, ask cpmers.

omg I've missed xerp e-drama!:)|

is there a clip of this aim without both players falling down at the same time?

you don't need a clip, just q3..
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1661605
at 8:27 there is that "my cursor moves in unison with your body" look that to me always triggers a red flag when i see it. i never see anyone legit do it, only Napalm3d, spectre, jared, etc. oh, and kgb.

i watched it now full 15 mins, and if you dont count two locks while they were both falling down, only thing really strange is that spawn kill @ the shaft, never really seen anyone shaft anyone to death in a split second, not even on lan with ping 0.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B0CU0P1Z

since you asked.

just for the record, keep in mind that half of the guys here are just mindless trolls whose only purpose is to contradict whatever you say.

I realize that now, but for anyone who wants to listen I will gladly walk them through the red flags of bot usage and what I consider strong signs of wallhacking too.

I realize that now, but for anyone who wants to listen I will gladly walk them through the red flags of bot usage and what I consider strong signs of wallhacking too.

Nobody cares about what you consider strong signs of wallhacking.

The kgbtrackingyou.avi shows NOTHING suspicious...

If anything it was quite bad aiming.

the first part is at 8:22.. after the initial miss, when he relocks not a single cell misses the enemy model for the duration. not a single cell. on stairs, vs someone strafing. look how the crosshair adjusts ever so slightly the millisecond chance starts strafing left (kgb's right).. same as when chance hits the ground at 1:45 from that mg, the crosshair does that minutely fine adjustment to stay 100% hitting. it's literally impossible for a human to do this on purpose, we are talking about fractions of a fraction of a second to react to a virtually imperceptible movement.

Get some sleep, mate. A girl wouldn't hurt, either.

Aye aye Supreme Ruler

I know! How does that even happen? I'm so generally unpopular and mean, yet I haven't been able to get under 65% for almost a year.

I barely posted for about a year on this site and came back and I still had like 30% :/

get [-] back for a day and you'd be -80% popular

I'll take your word for it, Mr. 40%.

If people can't even use the ignore function, how would they even understand how to use a [-]?

I wouldn't say they "understood" back then.
But they will use it. A lot.

Guess why it was removed ;)

clan519? moar like clown519
ohhhohoho ahaha i'm too funny

clown519 is now a meme

heh, once again you provide a video without any obvious proof.. it's not much of a task to hit 100% (or close to 100%) for a short period of time, even if that last sequence had missed cells..

and yet again, stop making videos out of gtv demos.. it's a waste of everyone's time :\

I asked Reptile to have Fox watch that demo and get back to me. I'd love to hear his opinion on it.

you're welcome to ask him yourself anytime.. it's not like i'm his agent..

i'd be embarrassed to ask too, so i you prolly won't..

Maybe you should be his agent?!

clan519 I think you're just an old grumpy dinosaur that's just sad he can't keep up with the aim of the younger generation

I see, proof?

0 for too much effort