dunno. sound too good to be true.

yeah, this. i'll believe it when i see it.

unless they avoid the laws of physics it's gonna be crap. It's basically terminal service but over the internet

thats what I thought about it, but would millions of dollars be invested for stuff thts fundamentally flawed and doesnot take an Einstein to figure out ? either its gotta be smthing cool or waste of money since there are far better things that are not getting funding in these days of recession.

50ms plus of input lag? It wont work for Quake.

They claim 1ms.

still too much

As I understand it 1 ms is what it takes them to proccess your inputs and send the next frame back, but connection latency will still be a problem.

Even with that I'm sure this could work pretty well in places like Korea and it's a great tool for things like demos, renting or even press copies (publishers are really reluctant to give them these days).

You still need to add the Internet latency to that. Imagine having to wait 50 ms to get feedback from your mouse. Would be totally unplayable.

It sounds like they're trying to say that they have a way around it, but I agree that it's bullshit.

http://kotaku.com/5181625/see-onlive-in-action

Don't see it working all too well for FPS but perhaps it may have a bright future for other genres, such as strategy, RPG, simulations, puzzle, MMORPGs and so on that doesn't really depend on you pressing the button at the exact millisecond.

What the...

I suppose it could work, but only for certain games and for some folk. I don't see how they can minimise the lag enough, and playing with 500 ping will be useless.

It might be ok for rpg and rps games, but I can't see action games being responsive enough, unless you are right next to the server.

In any event, it will be useless for any serious competitive online games.

also would pretty much kill off alot of hardware manufacturers

7 years to develop, and alot of big publishers have signed up. I guess we'll have to wait and see. It might be playable for people with low pings.

I'm betting it's not gona work properly.

It wont, think about the difference going from 125 Hz to 500 or 1000 Hz on a mouse makes. That's only 6-7ms of input lag difference. We're talking about maybe 20 or more under ideal conditions.

Would work in Swe!

It'll be years and years before bandwidth/latency makes this playable.

PR fantasy to attract venture capital.

about time the Phantom console get some competition

demonstration:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/video-onli...onstrated/

some nice features, especially if ure a random gamer, or for some other non gaming content.

but he latency will be a problem, it cant be faster then the infrastructure lets it. (just try pinging google)

Update: During the Q&A, the very real concern of network latency was raised (35:20 into the video). Perlman said that OnLive will work with a data center that is about 1,000 miles away from DSL or cable connections (probably 1,500 miles away with fiber). OnLive data centers already exist on the left and right coasts in the US with a 3rd coming on-line in the mid-west. When streamed to gamers in Australia "just for fun," OnLive found that "you can kind of play the game, but you see the lag."

It's going to be laggy. The 1 ms latency is probably just decompression time.

Tech isn't ready yet then :/

The idea is great though!

They'd need to alter the laws of physics for this to work for Quake.

they are claiming to run crysis

Of course it can run Crysis, computing power isn't the issue, Crysis with 50ms+ of input lag just wont be that fun, it's more about being able to say 'look Crysis runs on my mobile phone, isn't that AMAZING?' It'll be rubbish for FPS and quite possibly very good for slower paced games.

What I'd be more impressed by is some level of resource sharing so responsive input tasks can be dealt with locally to some extent (obviously not things like altering FPS view angle, but hearing and seeing that a button input has registered can help reduce the feel of lag) while the computationally intensive stuff is done remotely.

some sort of placebo effect to keep the user happy ?

like muzzle flash on fire button even though actual bullet would be lagged ?

if they keep total lag anything below 50ms that would be commendable, but c->s->c latency is so critical in this platform !

Would be fine for a game like civilisation where the processing could be a lot quicker than it is on my laptop and input lag wouldn't matter one bit.

Ah the damn limit on the speed of light!
blame god

Either way I'm sure something good will come of it. Not likely an FPS incarnation but still something playable.

Lots of great games don't require "instant" input latency etc.

OnLive! = Fancy VNC

Whether it werks or not.. I dont really care.

I have a Wii for a some arcade craic, drunken parties, etc. but I use my PC to really enjoy my games.

Part of the fun of playing Left 4 Dead on my PC is the fact that I can tweak it here and there, utilise my x-fi sound card, get more out of the visuals, get my sensitivity right and my keys properly bound for the best control, then I might set my rates according to my shitty Irish broadband and then I have something running so much better than I had before and I didnt have to buy any new parts for my Rig. OnLive cant do this... infact OnLive wont allow me to replace the Zombie horde moanings\screamings with Macho Man Randy Savage sound bytes.

People say its 10 - 20 years down the line, well for consoles maybe, for PC games to go out there without modding... nah, I dont think they have anything to tackle that issue... and God help them if I have to call them up at 3am to get my Quake Live Ultra Turbo autoexec file working properly *again*