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Fragster talks with Matthieu Dallon (55 comments)

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Posted by xou @ 12:39 CDT, 11 May 2009 - iMsg

Event: ESWC'09

Tonight

Fragster released an interview with the most popular man behind Games-Services and ESWC.

David "R0cK3r" Donschen could talk with

Matthieu Dallon about the Games-Services' bankrupt, the business model they used, the missing prize money from past events and the hypothetical future of the ESWC.

Do you think that we can see an ESWC event in the near future?
M. Dallon: Considering the necessary time for a potential trade-in and then, the minimum time to sale sponsorships offers and to produce the event, we shall wait until the end of the year.

The full interview is available in English on Fragster.de. Also the same author wrote an in-depth article, "The End of a Great Dotcom Idea", covering the situation surrounding the GS bankrupt.

Edited by Nukm at 13:07 CDT, 11 May 2009 - 20084 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 12:44 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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Nukm

just wanted to write a news after i read it, glad i had a look at the frontpage before ;)

interesting interview, hope the players get paid out

btw, there is also an interesting article on fragster that reviews the whole eswc situation:
http://www.fragster.de/artikel/5178/the-end-o...tcom-idea/

<< Comment #2 @ 12:46 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #1

feel free to edit and had that article

<< Comment #4 @ 12:54 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #2

hmm, good idea, added it
although i dont really know where to put it into the news, fee free to edit it even more ;)

<< Comment #5 @ 13:00 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #4

yo dawg I edited your edit so you an edit me while I edited you! : )

<< Comment #3 @ 12:50 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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[mash]

germany sneaks in to save ESWC! \o/

<< Comment #8 @ 13:04 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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led - Reply to #3

Ok, now we forgive you for killing all the jews.

<< Comment #13 @ 13:41 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #8

and they need forgiving for that why?

<< Comment #37 @ 03:40 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #13

eh

<< Comment #45 @ 14:24 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #37

yeah no idea how it came out like that :(

<< Comment #49 @ 17:25 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #45

Used to like you, you lost my backing, it got you a plus from Vedic though. Even if you are labeled a nazi forever now. The red and black icon suits you sir.

<< Comment #50 @ 17:26 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #49

Although I think I do understand that you mean that most people in Germany today have had nothing to do with any genociding.

<< Comment #51 @ 12:40 CDT, 13 May 2009 >>

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ini - Reply to #50

I doubt he meant that mate :P

<< Comment #52 @ 01:31 CDT, 14 May 2009 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #51

Don't ruin my dreamboy for me :(

<< Comment #6 @ 13:01 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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unihumi

Even tho I would like to see an ESWC next year, I don't think we will hear good news by the end of this one. Of course M.D. wouldn't talk negatively about his company when there's still a tad hope in it. But I doubt it.

<< Comment #17 @ 15:42 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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wata - Reply to #6

it's basically just a matter of waiting for the economy to go well enough again ; a brand cannot really die, that's immaterial

<< Comment #32 @ 02:21 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #17

You can't blame the eco for everything. He literally said it: They didn't even really made money long time before the world wide recession.

EDIT: But maybe I'm a bit too pessimistic here

Edited by unHuman at 02:21 CDT, 12 May 2009

<< Comment #47 @ 14:58 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #32

You can't blame the economic crises for everything!

<< Comment #7 @ 13:03 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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loveless

at least this guy gave straight answers and gave a shit about the players, unlike someone else
coughcoughANGELMUNOZcoughcough

<< Comment #43 @ 12:48 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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stuntz - Reply to #7

Can you please tell us who was it?

<< Comment #48 @ 15:20 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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loveless - Reply to #43

LOL
n1 bro
a + for you

<< Comment #9 @ 13:05 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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Liefje

Too lazy to finish the sentence?

"...covering the situation surrounding the GS bankrupt" ........?

:p

<< Comment #11 @ 13:14 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #9

Also the same author wrote an in-depth article [, "The End of a Great Dotcom Idea",] covering the situation surrounding the GS bankrupt.

It's good sentence, I tasted it!

Edited by xou at 13:14 CDT, 11 May 2009

<< Comment #10 @ 13:07 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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mefajpE^

Dallon: Yes, there are serious offers, and some are coming from Germany. There are also callow requests, which show up that some communication was necessary. We are at the beginning of the process that may last until this summer.

Bye, bye Quake!

<< Comment #12 @ 13:15 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #10

they could make the finals 18+ or they could have then in a different country.

<< Comment #15 @ 14:30 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #12

That wouldn't change it. All the Quake games are banned. It doesn't matter whether they do a 18+ restricted area at the venues or do something like ESL's trusted levels.

EDIT: For the tourneys in germany, that is.

Edited by unHuman at 14:30 CDT, 11 May 2009

<< Comment #16 @ 15:07 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #15

I would like a link to that information.

Becuase all know is that quake games are indexed which is not the same as banned.

<< Comment #18 @ 15:47 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #16

That's right, but it doesn't change anything. You're not allowed to show or promote Quake 3 in public at all.

At first Quake 3 got an 18+ rating. But afaik the USK somewhen changed their whole system and today all the 18+ titles before that time are changed to "No rating", which means you (as a tourney organizer) can't let ANYBODY play Quake 3, since it's not allowed to promote that game in public.

<< Comment #19 @ 15:54 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #18

I'm not to sure about that, after all they can show porn in theaters etc.

<< Comment #21 @ 16:09 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #19

i believe you need a special license for that.

just like you need a gambling license to let people gamble in your casino.
internet cafes need that, too, nowadays.

<< Comment #22 @ 16:13 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #21

ah ok.

But I suppose a company could get a license for q3?

<< Comment #26 @ 16:33 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #22

i think so. o_0
but i know nothing about it really. just the fact, that internet cafes, that allow gaming, need a gambling license.

<< Comment #23 @ 16:16 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #18

They can let play people q3, at least they could at eswc.de 2008

<< Comment #33 @ 02:23 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #23

True. Now you totally ruined my smartmouth attempt!!!!!!

Edited by unHuman at 02:23 CDT, 12 May 2009

<< Comment #38 @ 03:49 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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frag` - Reply to #23

it is allowed behind closed doors if there are no underage people present - which includes everyone who could see a screen. public display is forbidden

<< Comment #44 @ 13:58 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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impulseBE - Reply to #23

i heard paintball is forbidden too now in germany

epic fail at your country :/

<< Comment #46 @ 14:34 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #44

Paintball isn't forbidden in Germany yet, government only said they are going to impose a ban. Fortunately some persons in the government grew a brain recently and now as it seems now, they won't do anything at all. There seems to be a meeting about it this evening.

Edited by cYmoZz at 14:35 CDT, 12 May 2009

<< Comment #30 @ 02:03 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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swine - Reply to #18

and quakelive isnt banned yet.

<< Comment #35 @ 03:30 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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frag` - Reply to #30

it does not have a rating yet and not rated games have an 18+ rating and are not allowed to be put on public display

<< Comment #39 @ 03:55 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #35

does that also count for flash games?

or what about warsow?

Edited by fjorgyn at 03:57 CDT, 12 May 2009

<< Comment #40 @ 04:25 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #39

warsow is not a game.

seriously though, I was wondering about that myself, because I think I do recall seeing a wsw match on giga some years back.
But maybe they just broke the law with that and noone noticed...

<< Comment #41 @ 04:26 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #40

or maybe it doesn't apply because wsw is not made by a company?
Just guessing here!

<< Comment #54 @ 03:32 CDT, 16 May 2009 >>

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frag` - Reply to #39

I believe the same applies for flash games. We will get to see that in the summer as the old Games Convention takes place end of July and they deal with browser and mobile games only.

Warsow is regarded as 18+ (was shown on Giga after 23:00)

<< Comment #42 @ 04:27 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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swine - Reply to #35

well, i know that leagues like the ESL are handling Quake Live like CS. So 16+

<< Comment #55 @ 03:39 CDT, 16 May 2009 >>

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frag` - Reply to #42

i don´t think they have any age limit in the /eu/ section and most likely 16+ in Germany as the very similar (blood & gore) German Q4 edition was rated 16+

the game does not seem to be rated yet as the media would have picked that up in Germany

<< Comment #14 @ 13:54 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #10

Theoretically, RA3 is still quake. Theoretically.

<< Comment #27 @ 18:38 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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loveless - Reply to #14

yes, just like Schrodinger's cat is dead AND alive.

<< Comment #20 @ 16:05 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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raithza - Reply to #10

quakelive?

<< Comment #24 @ 16:18 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #20

it is the same as with q3 unless id goes to usk and asks them to rate their game - which hasnt happened yet afaik

<< Comment #25 @ 16:32 CDT, 11 May 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #24

it's a browser game. i think it's a grey area and nothing like that occured to the usk before.

<< Comment #28 @ 00:31 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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therogue - Reply to #24

quakelive isn't quake 3, it hasn't been rated and being a browser game, may avoid rating entirely

<< Comment #29 @ 01:53 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #28

you haven't lived here long enough ;)

<< Comment #31 @ 02:16 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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raithza - Reply to #29

well, besides that, the game shows no blood/gore - so who knows?

<< Comment #34 @ 02:30 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #31

yes, imo there is real chance that it could get a more lenient rating. However, I do believe that they have to a apply for a new rating and can't just hope to have a public tournament with an unrated game.
And all that can only happen until after the vote, when politicians consider doing their actual job again and don't try to make the front page just as much.

<< Comment #36 @ 03:35 CDT, 12 May 2009 >>

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frag` - Reply to #28

you have to get a rating to be able to show it. imagine what all publisher go through with their demos which they want to show at gamesconvention during the summer break.

everything without a rating is 18+. even super mario brothers 1 got a 18+ rating because all old games are treated as unrated games and i don´t think Nintendo applied for a rating

<< Comment #53 @ 13:15 CDT, 15 May 2009 >>

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Amazingly good interview. Keep it up Fragster!

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