Not a very good map, but the best of the DC maps. There was a pro version on lvl, but it wasn't much better.

all dc maps were shit imo, i dont expect anything good here

if someone doesnt know the dc mappack: Click here

It's a decent map, but doesn't either have anything special that makes it interesting to play.

dcmap07 is AMAZING

yeah dc_07 is a nice ffa map, nothing more.

not what i was expecting...

hope this isn't the surprise id was talking about in their press release.

I'm thinking it's one of them. there should be more little stuff like this to follow I guess/hope.

6 maps in 6 weeks... interesting

Jesus, another remake? I've not cared about the map situation before, at least publicly, but if you're going to release a "new" map for a "new" game, at least make it one that people play. 1.16n insta doesn't count either...

the 6 weeks 6 maps thing is exaclty what id needed to to. it will keep a lot of palyers psyched
im so hoping for a decent duel map

idd so we can finally say bb to the lame ones like t6,t7...

bye bye dm6 ^^
there wont be released any decent duel map anyway

imho dm6 plays very well in ql. sure we have had it for ages, but the same goes for t4/dm13/t6

right, remove all old maps and I will be happy :D

seriously dm6, t4 and dm13 have to be replaced. Its boring to play old and overplayed maps.

t7 is the best map at the moment and t9 can be fun

t9 is new and its decent =P

neither

dm13 should be replaced by it for now

rofl no, if there is a map that needs to be replaced its t6

t6 is soooo much better than dm13

play instagib then

t4 is much more rail then t6
so force your hate on t4?

i don't like t4 either, but for completely other reasons. t4 isn't even close to as rail heavy as t6. Watch a jibo demo and look what he does with rockets, and with quakelives shotgun you can even dominate with that weapon. t4 doesn't have those ultra wide open spaces either which are all over t6.

i didnt play much t4 but every match I played was just railwhoring.
I played a lot of t6 in the last few days and it wasnt much railwhoring... up to the enemy style/skill.
so maybe its just my personal experience...

Bullshit.

Rail completely dominates T6.

not the point.
the point is that t4 is an old q3 duel map and t6 is not, that's why the typical ignorant ESR/q3er instantly whines about the new map, which in this case is t6 :)

the difference is t6 is retarded at times while t4 is not.

+super fucked up sounds

no

t4 has a much better chance of working better in QL because of the nerfed weapons

it works well in VQ3 in terms of sublte positioning and initiative, but MG just fucking ruins it

as fjgoryrrogn said, watch jibo on T4 (or anyone good) and notice the kills and how they balance out across all weapons

annoyingly, hub is the only other map where this happens :(

no, its not better than any map in the current mappool

plz post in here:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1695535

i am disappointed that apparantely a good part of the 6 new maps is recycled old shit :(

true.. I expected something different when they announced "NEW" maps.

Sigh. Typical quake community: a year of "BRINg CLASSIC MAPS OR QL WILL FAIL YOU SUCK" etc whine followed closely by "OMG WHY ONLY OLD MAPS WE NEED NEW MAPS QL FAILS YOU SUCK"

classic maps = ztn, hub, cpm4, ...

None of which iD can legally bring include in QL yes.

Says who? Have id asked the creators? I highly doubt it.

Furthermore I doubt the creator of hub asked the original creator of qw aerowalk.bsp if it would be okay.

he did, actually

Actually he didn't, he later did and that's when cpm22 was made.

oh ok. I knew preacher had given permission somewhere down the line..

Hubster also calls the first one a mistake.

how so? because of lack of permission?

That's what I meant, no idea if he thinks it's a shit version or not :P

By classic maps people mean maps that have worked in the past. Some of the mappers of those maps have given id software permission to include the maps. Though none of them have been included, so probably there is another reason why id isn't willing to add them yet.

self-conceit?

what are the odds that i am actually the guy who tracked down all of these mappers and forwarded their updated contact information to id software 1 year ago :) they were (and probably still are) all very excited about the quake live project and they would have been proud to see their maps included, free of charge

so, what happened ?

nothing really:)

we do know most of the authors where contacted by id even be4 that, but seems nothing came out of it.

Stuff that will become self-evident over time. =p

oh snap

heh, well at least ure having fun:)

Does that mean the next five maps are actually maps made by the community?
Does it? Does it???

"You will go you will return not in the battle you will perish"
:)

He'll leave us hanging, like snots from a nose. :(

hey, the training maps are cool
but you really should put a graphical explanation in addition to the written explanation, something like that

atm it's just like trying explaining how to do a shoruyken using only words when this is way shorter and efficient, and you don't have to speak english to get it

OMG U SPELLED IT WRONG

bah, deos not rlaely mtaetr

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

You really can't just put that line there without any explanation ...

free of charge - you mean free of ql banners?

What did Teddy say? :D

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1522383

actually, there's nothing illegal about copying map geometry as far as I'm aware and you don't need permission

although ripping off without consent or any kind of acknowledgment does suck, but fuck it being a cunt is better.

It's neither legal nor illegal. Copyright law and intellectual property rights are very much up in the air atm. If a law suit were to occur, the court very much could decide that the original creator owned rights to said design -- especially if the reproduction was made by a for-profit company opposed to just community content made for non-profit modding purposes.

Besides, almost everyone agrees that it's the wrong thing to do, and that is all that may matter.

I'd expect a court would side with a creator provided he can proove he designed it first and that it is clearly a copy.

Ive only played it a few times but since TDM only got one good map right now I wouldnt mind if some tournies added this one for 4v4 even though its probably too small and rail heavy, especially with 12 sec weaps.

I was hoping to play it for duel.
I joined 3 servers running it. The first action the other guy waiting in the server did was to callvote map qzdm6.




u cant throw dm6 out even if you wanted to lol.

i played a duel against a bot on this map. i quit when the quad spawned :/
other than that it seemed really fine.

duel with quad is fun
edit: duel with runes and proximity mines would be even more fun :D

The map is ok. Which means it's tons better than 85% previous ql maps.

I want ztn. :[

I want duel maps! sicken tired of dm6.... dm6 and dm6.