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Demo

l1nkje -vs- cypher (96 comments)

( Major Demo: Q3)

Posted by Nukm @ 19:02 CDT, 20 May 2009 - iMsg

Event: EMS IV




	0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
Rating: 7.1 (11 votes)

Gametype: Duel
Map: Various Maps
Mod: CPMA vq3
Viewpoint: l1nkje
How to play back Q3 demos

>> 69653-link_cyph.zip <<
(3438KB, 661 DLs)

ESL EMS IV Week 3 match between

l1nkje (30ping) and cypher

(50ping +packetloss)

Screens

Edited by Nukm at 19:06 CDT, 20 May 2009 - 36412 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 19:42 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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madbringer

YEAH CYPHER LOST COZ OF PING, WE GET IT LOL

Fuck, but i hate not hidden spoilers.

<< Comment #2 @ 19:54 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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vorpal

we are already aware cypher is a farce after losing to jibo :\

12%

<< Comment #61 @ 18:16 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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PuPPeT - Reply to #2

...

<< Comment #3 @ 19:54 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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zZzzZzz

<< Comment #12 @ 00:59 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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alan54

ping won

<< Comment #4 @ 22:55 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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Aaron

how did ztn go?

damage seems pretty neck and neck, cypher has the better stats

my guess is close with linkin racking up the spawn kills? or linkin with a nice lead and cypher failing to make a comeback?

<< Comment #5 @ 23:02 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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26671 - Reply to #4

17 vs. 10 RA's obviously made a big difference.

<< Comment #6 @ 23:18 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #5

not really, not without seeing the game anyway

RA is worth little if you take it while challenged, you end up just preventing the enemy from having it.

<< Comment #7 @ 23:23 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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26671 - Reply to #6

Damage was almost equal and the accuracy stats were close, but cypher still lost by 7 frags . You can tell on paper that it had some sort of impact on the outcome.

Edited by advent™ at 23:24 CDT, 20 May 2009

<< Comment #8 @ 23:34 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #7

no, no you can't. although it probably it did you can't tell without watching.

it could have been neck and neck all the way (a frag or two lead) with linkin getting lucky in the final few minutes of the game racking up some spawn kills

when linkin took half of those RAs, he could have eaten a rail or rocket and more rendering them useless apart from denying them from cypher

and so on

<< Comment #10 @ 23:57 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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26671 - Reply to #8

Who's to say denying someone armors isn't a difference maker in this game? That's like saying punting 5 extra yards in football or clearing the puck from your defensive zone in hockey during a penalty kill isn't a difference maker.

Also, I doubt a comeback that late would be made at this level of play unless the timing of an unfortunate incident or major mistake was pretty precise. Too lazy to watch the demo to see if you're right, though, so check it out and let me know.

<< Comment #81 @ 10:43 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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ini - Reply to #10

I'd say I think I've seen enough and played enough games to say that looking at the statistics often gives a poor impression.

<< Comment #23 @ 03:26 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #4

Link building a quick lead, and then just trying to defend it the rest of the game. Some nice airrockets by link (11:54)! Cypher not playing very good imo.

<< Comment #9 @ 23:40 CDT, 20 May 2009 >>

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JocK

Cypher destroy him on lan.

<< Comment #11 @ 00:32 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Alchemist03 - Reply to #9

the list of that players growing up

38%

<< Comment #13 @ 01:32 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #11

good observation :D

<< Comment #32 @ 05:05 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #11

great call man :) [+]

<< Comment #52 @ 12:50 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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JocK - Reply to #11

http://www.eswc.com/grandfinal/sanjose2008/?c...d_match=31

<< Comment #53 @ 13:07 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #52

eswc 08 final results are hardly worth mentioning

<< Comment #54 @ 13:09 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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JocK - Reply to #53

Yeah, like a online game.

Cypher destroy linkin on lan, just a fact.

<< Comment #59 @ 16:44 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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senzor - Reply to #54

You should maybe stop living in the past. Who knows what their actual shape is, how would they perform on LAN now. It's not that difficult to get to the top but far more diffucult to stay there. Well yeah not my quote but it's nice :-)

<< Comment #60 @ 17:11 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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JocK - Reply to #59

I don't live in the past. I'm French and i know that l1nkin has not the level to beat a 'good' Cypher on LAN. Our 1on1 players were always shit on major Q3 LAN. Only winz and co1nco1n had the potential to win something.

Let's see the next event. :)

Edited by JocK at 17:25 CDT, 21 May 2009

<< Comment #73 @ 02:43 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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senzor - Reply to #60

U know what? I would go with Cypher on LAN too. But if Linkin hits such 60% rail in the LAN game too then Cypher will have a really hard time no matter the ping.

<< Comment #87 @ 14:34 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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tourist - Reply to #11

"the list of that players growing up"

yea it had a tough childhood but now it's making its way up

<< Comment #50 @ 10:58 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #9

maybe cypher should start making a list of all those who have to win in lan (jibo, linkin, cooller,....)

<< Comment #58 @ 15:34 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #50

oh nice, that will be an epic list of players! :DDDDDD

<< Comment #65 @ 19:25 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #58

Take out that French guy, and it already is!

<< Comment #14 @ 01:54 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Shardik

Great match by Linkin. Amazing rail in T4. And you are so funny with your "bla bla bla all ping" :D

<< Comment #15 @ 02:20 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #14

And you are so funny with your DISGUSTING CUNT FAGGOT FRENCH BIAS

12%

<< Comment #16 @ 02:46 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Shardik - Reply to #15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUfJeMqfJSw

<< Comment #17 @ 02:49 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #16

i deem your comment offensive.

Edited by Aaron at 02:50 CDT, 21 May 2009

<< Comment #34 @ 05:20 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #17

nice one :D

<< Comment #56 @ 15:11 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #17

What did he say?

<< Comment #57 @ 15:12 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #56

IF YOU HAD TO KNOW I WOULDN'T HAVE NUKED IT

<< Comment #62 @ 18:32 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Furore - Reply to #17

so "DISGUSTING CUNT FAGGOT FRENCH" isn't offensive?

<< Comment #63 @ 18:40 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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micke - Reply to #62

only to disgusting cunt faggots

<< Comment #71 @ 22:24 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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amt - Reply to #62

As strange as it seem, maybe "french" isn't read as an insult.

<< Comment #72 @ 02:12 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #71

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING???

<< Comment #46 @ 10:12 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #16

LOL Its been a while since i've seen someone get nuked

<< Comment #64 @ 18:56 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #15

42 years old. Amazing.

<< Comment #70 @ 22:21 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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amt - Reply to #15

How can stats be biaised ? (referring to his railgun stats on pt4)
I didn't see the game, maybe those railgun shots were easy !

<< Comment #80 @ 10:40 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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Anonymous (53547E74.cable.casema.nl) - Reply to #15

Aaron, ouwekankerhoer niet zo vriend.

Altijd met je kankerpraatjes

<< Comment #27 @ 04:26 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Anonymous (81.220.6.229) - Reply to #14

Linkin is very good online and Cypher is like Cooller before, maintly a lan player.

+ double ping for Cypher as handicap.

BTW : The match is more close that you can think.

<< Comment #19 @ 03:07 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #14

linkin won yes but u still frence :/

<< Comment #18 @ 03:01 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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kK_Storm

I don't think packet loss of 3 % needs to be mentioned in description, because people would think ITS ALL ABOUT PING STUFF, which is not true. Of course, ping difference did it influence, nevertheless l1nkje played really good. On T4 it was all about his aim, but he won and that's it.

<< Comment #24 @ 04:07 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #18

6% packet loss is complete dogshit and very noticeable.

<< Comment #26 @ 04:13 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #24

I agree about 6 % pl, but cypher had mostly 3 %. If we take all time he played vs l1nk as 100 units of time, than he played 60-65 units with pl equal to 3 %, 10-15 with no pl and the rest with 6 % pl approximately. (kinda weird about units of time huh?)

<< Comment #29 @ 04:55 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #26

I wouldn't say the scoreboard was so accurate regarding PL through GTV

<< Comment #20 @ 03:18 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Po0dle

Well played link!! Cypher got served! Your training worked out after all!

<< Comment #21 @ 03:20 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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kenZu - Reply to #20

Which training ?

<< Comment #40 @ 07:42 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Anonymous (ip-229.net-81-220-6.versailles.rev.numericable.fr) - Reply to #21

to flood Cypher lol

<< Comment #22 @ 03:24 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Kaloos

Since when ping matters that much in CPMA all XERP ???

<< Comment #25 @ 04:07 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #22

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1697129#pid1697129

Edited by shlaeNg at 04:08 CDT, 21 May 2009

<< Comment #44 @ 09:41 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Kaloos - Reply to #25

Shit excuse that's all !

<< Comment #28 @ 04:51 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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bzzd

nice;D good game linkouf

<< Comment #30 @ 04:55 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Anonymous (din67-1-88-179-188-127.fbx.proxad.net)

link played better than cypher on this match,
smart play and nice skill, gg
slx

<< Comment #33 @ 05:10 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #30

and being french and most likely a friend of his won't make your oppinion biased, at all, no sir-ee.

<< Comment #36 @ 05:38 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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amt - Reply to #33

Some interesting comment here for sure ! keep on !

<< Comment #45 @ 10:05 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #36

some short nickname here for sure! go on!

<< Comment #67 @ 20:22 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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loveless - Reply to #45

some pikachu's here for sure! go on!

<< Comment #39 @ 07:42 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Anonymous (ip-229.net-81-220-6.versailles.rev.numericable.fr) - Reply to #30

noob

<< Comment #31 @ 05:01 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8

i think linkje/linkin/whateverfunnynamehehasbythen will have a good shot at taking cypher down on lan as well.

<< Comment #41 @ 08:16 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #31

as toxic did with cooller? ;)

imo lk improved his duel-gameplay pretty much and deserves some achievements. he also took dm6 from cypher on lan at eswc and that was about some time ago from now on.

<< Comment #43 @ 09:13 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #41

toxic did have a good shot.

<< Comment #51 @ 11:01 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #41

it's actually a very similar scenario :)

<< Comment #35 @ 05:21 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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zengfu

cypher is an aim whore and when someone aims better, he doesnt know what to do really

<< Comment #37 @ 05:59 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #35

that + with his pl he kinda gave up during the game

<< Comment #66 @ 19:47 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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Alchemist03 - Reply to #35

you are wrong...

<< Comment #68 @ 20:24 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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loveless - Reply to #35

i wouldn't go as far as to say that
although he has great aim, his movement, timing, and control are pretty strong as well
to me, he plays smarter than it looks like
but with ping, packet loss, and possibly underestimating linkin, i think those three might have done him in.
along with linkin's good play =]]]

<< Comment #38 @ 07:10 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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koekie

"so simple" ???
linkin's rail was on fire at t4!

<< Comment #49 @ 10:55 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #38

cypher is so simple...

<< Comment #42 @ 09:12 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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mic

linkins movement sucks tho

<< Comment #47 @ 10:26 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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terrorhead

online heroes

<< Comment #48 @ 10:54 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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_Rapid_

"so simple" yes, do it cypher! you just have to do 60% rail!!

(l1nkin has: fox aim + jibo+back!)

Edited by _Rapid_ at 10:55 CDT, 21 May 2009

<< Comment #55 @ 13:57 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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crv

nice game

<< Comment #69 @ 20:52 CDT, 21 May 2009 >>

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judge717

I think by "so simple" cypher was conveying how simple it would be for zero4 to rape both of them the way they were playing.

<< Comment #74 @ 03:10 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #69

interesting interpretation, really.

<< Comment #84 @ 13:18 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #69

zero4 mentioned = easy [+]

<< Comment #75 @ 08:02 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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rDbok

lol what poor aiming even because of ping

<< Comment #76 @ 08:40 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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xy-

Link1n is a very though opponent both on internet and lan, so stop talk shit about him all the time, he has easly the best aim in the world right now.

<< Comment #78 @ 09:16 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #76

strenx, link, fuck maybe i shouls start eat frogs legs? o_O

<< Comment #82 @ 11:16 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #76

maybe with lg and rg but with rl is not very well aimer.

<< Comment #86 @ 13:41 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #82

last time I checked, his rockets were fucking nuts

<< Comment #88 @ 15:37 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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xy- - Reply to #82

Watch his game on dm6 vs Cypher, he did hit alooot of air rockets. ESWC Athens or something if I'm not mistaken.

<< Comment #83 @ 11:34 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #76

lol, ok.

<< Comment #92 @ 16:55 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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amt - Reply to #76

COME ON STOP WITH YOUR BIAISED OPINIONS TOWARDS FRANCE.... no... wait... Sweden ?

Maybe some hidden irony ? there has to be something.

<< Comment #79 @ 09:33 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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l1nkjA

any1 got gtv demos with chat ?

<< Comment #90 @ 16:14 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #79

u better dont watch this chat :>

<< Comment #77 @ 09:03 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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caitlin

I only watched t4, and from what I saw, I don't understand how anyone could be impressed by linkins play. I don't doubt for a second that cypher would "take him to school" if they both had close to 0ms. And no, I don't like either one of them.

Edited by caitlin at 09:04 CDT, 22 May 2009

<< Comment #85 @ 13:28 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #77

hitting that much rails is not that easy

<< Comment #89 @ 16:11 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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caitlin - Reply to #85

Yes, linkins aim was not bad at all. His play in total wasn't as impressive though.. He got outsmarted numerous times by cypher, who was unable to finish linkin off due to lag (as I see it.) But then again, maybe linkin is better than cypher at the moment, that would be refreshing if anything.

<< Comment #91 @ 16:23 CDT, 22 May 2009 >>

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frs - Reply to #89

oh really, cypher did a lot of really dumb moves himself and giving up easy frags

<< Comment #93 @ 02:49 CDT, 23 May 2009 >>

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squishy

next, lol

or

fromage!

<< Comment #94 @ 03:53 CDT, 23 May 2009 >>

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garz

cypher didnt care

<< Comment #95 @ 04:40 CDT, 23 May 2009 >>

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Anonymous (131-114-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net)

another one scared runner like jeebo.
'Oh yeah! Let me do you in your ping babe! ... Omg, I should run from pinger-guy, cause he got YA!'
you always can tell it by pussy-hiding/running style.

<< Comment #96 @ 16:32 CDT, 23 May 2009 >>

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By $\0/$ sniden - Reply to #95

wtf

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