you realize they won't really nuke the USA, but South Korea or Japan..

even tho USA will wipe them off the map after the first hit, that isn't a good trade. you can't really trade with human lives like that, unless you're Stalin

the only way this shit gets sorted out is when China will admit that NK is a failed state and the regime must change.

Of course I'm not serious about launching nuclear bombs, but the whole situation is pretty annoying.

Leave Stalin out of this fukcface!

betting fixture plz.

this might actually the first time you made a funny on here.

I plant seeds.....They grow.

;)

HAHAHA!

great logic, but I'm afraid there will still be some bad people left.

I got it lets just kill every single human. The world will be incredibly peaceful afterwards.

Jamerio: Taking idiocy to a new level.


P.S.: Btw. DId you always enjoy murdering children or is that a new thing?

You sneaky bastard, that's a trick question. You didn't mention the childens' skin color

Lol, your recent ancestors actually killed over 6 million jews and you're trying to give me shit about a country threating a nuclear war and ahypotetical situation? Only on ESR.

My response to that would be better their kids than ours.
If that's how it has to be.
And its happening in the middle east every day, but its just part of the deal. Deal with it.

If someone comes up to you waving his fists, do me a favour, do nothing and when you when wake up with a broken nose you'll kinda see the basis of my argument.

N.Korea are actually stupid enough to do things like this.
There is so only so far this can go before action is taken, my point is, make sure you strike first.

Well, I hearyou want to kill people.
So I gonna strike first and get rid of you.

You might think thats not related but in fact it is. If someone e.g the UK or the US nuke North Korea some other country will figure the might be next in line.
So they WILL strike first. At least if they are as "smart" as you...



Btw. How come every time someone pulls the nazi card his points are really stupid?

cuz retards make retarded statements. Plural, see?

Also:

The U.S. also struck first in the Middle EASt and with that I mean the 70s and 80s.
I heard that worked out really well for them what with Al Quaida and so on. They wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the intelligent "strike first" approach of the US.

The only difference is it's NOT him, but his ANCESTORS, unfortunately that can't be said in your case.

as far as I know not even my ancestors.

you never know... ;-)

yes, and some Poles also collaborated .. ;)

It's strange (or maybe funny) that you wrote it because just a few hours ago i've read some articles about collaboration in particular countries :P

There is a general consensus among historians that there was very little collaboration with the Nazis among the Polish nation as a whole, compared to other Nazi-occupied countries. Depending on a definition of collaboration (and of a Polish citizen, based on ethnicity and minority status), scholars estimate number of "Polish collaborators" at around several thousand in a population of about 35 million (that number is supported by the Israeli War Crimes Commission).
"only relatively small percentage of Polish population engaged in activities that may be described as collaboration when seen against the backdrop of European and world history"

Position of France after the war was quite strange too, considering their input in this war (which can be considered as overestimate by Wastern nations).

Also, talking about collaboration, I think that too strict race restrictions were one of the reasons of Third Reich's failure. For example, there were many Ukrainians who wanted to "join" Germans, mostly because they considered it as a chance to liberate from Soviet occupation (but obviously they didn't know about real German plans). Fortunately or unfortunately there was no chance of treating those keen on cooperating like inhabitant of Third Reich because from the beginning it was planned to "use" Slavic countries as a slaves.

About this "you never know" - I know pretty much about my family's history (thanks to genealogic tree reaching XVIII century and some documents from organizations like Red Cross) but of course it's possible that I don't know about something too :-)

I can only say that it's quite sad that Third Reich is considered (by some people) as the only aggresor while Russians are lovely liberators (I am talking about Western nations but also about some Polish people, in that case it's a result of being for years under communistic occupation). Of course their contribution to the WW2 was huge but, let say that my family suffered much more from Russians than from Germans.

don't worry.. all non-russian speaking eastern europe hates russians for pillaging and raping, but posing as liberators :)

you might want to consider that BECAUSE (as you put it) our recent ancestors killed 6 millions people, germans are more careful when throwing around sentences like "lets bomb that country away", and "go genocide".

If you hit someone first you can be sued when they don't hit you. They can come at you with waving fists fully knowing you will strike them. So when you did hit them and they don't hit back and all they did was wave fists, who comes out as the bad guy?

Waving fists or hitting someone?

no worries dec 21st 2012 isnt far away

http://www.2012doomsday.com/

Very first sentence:
"As predicted by the mayans 2012 Doomday may be just aroudn the corner!"

I had hoped doom 4 would come out a sooner than 2012 :(

they just got tired of writing the calendar

the doomsday is 2099 according to windows, because there are no more entries! omg!

haha, gold.

sif America is any better than North Korea.

imprisoning people without a (real) trial: check
wanting a nuclear arsenal: check
threatening other countries: check
having lots of poor people: check
having a nutjob as president: check (at least for the last eight years)
having a huge fence toward their neighb in the south: check

actually waging war once a decade: nope, just the US :(



I guess you're on to smething there :/

We still have a nutjob president, he's just capable of saying "nuclear" correctly. =(

We'll have to see if he can hang with Bush and Kim Jong Il.

pliss where are nooclear wessals

Racist :/

comparing the united states to north korea just shows how fucking retarded you are. north korea has one of the worst human rights records in the world, but then again, we dont know how bad it is because of how secret the country is and most testimonial comes from people who escaped the country.

fucking germans, bitter over losing ww2 to the us even to this day

Yeah, our record on torture is completely spotless.

and i said it was?

You argue that NK is somehow worse for human rights issues, yet we're just as bad.

how are we just as bad? north korea has hundreds of thousands of prisoners in horrific labor camps where as we have what 500 in guantanamo with free health care?

i remember reading something about those camps where they would put you in something like a 2x5ft box and fill it half way with water. you were forced to stand there for maybe a day or longer i dont remember.

sounds a lot like the us. im not saying what we did is somehow acceptable, but it certainly wasnt as bad as what north korea does to its own people.

Did you not see the pictures of the prisoners that were released? We're also holding them without trial, with many likely being completely innocent. Obama won't even allow the newer photos to be released, despite his promise for government transparency.

i dunno, millions of completely innocent people being harassed or a few hundred suspected bad men?

That's all that has come out, not all that has happened.

Ok. So, let's say a hundred thousand people were killed by us. There is still millions suffering in North Korea for no reason at all. Innocent people raped by their leadership with no real hope of freedom.

Neither is good. Millions suffering for no reason.

There are millions suffering here thanks to our government putting us in 11 trillion dollar debt - and it was just as intentional. Hell, we're only at the start.. Our debt just started catching up to us, and other countries have finally started saying "NO THANKS".

LOL. Don't even compare our suffering to people suffering in north korea or around the world.

Ours is just spread out over time, thanks to the beauty of credit.

you are so retarded

When you wake up with your taxes at 50%, feel free to apologize.

"So, let's say a hundred thousand people were killed by us."

no, let's not say anything. idiot.

OH LOOK YOU CAN SAY IDIOT.


Still far less than the last regime in Iraq and far less than North Korea.

LOL

Nice try though.

I wasn't even going to count them since they aren't our own people, which is what you were talking about.... but your defense is "WE DIDN'T KILL AS MUCH SO WE'RE NOT AS EVIL"?... Seriously?

It's not a competition, and we are in no position to judge North Korea.

is that how you read it in your own mind?

Is that how you interpreted it? Don't project what you interpret on to me and then quote it as if thats what I said.


Take control of your mind first. I know the brain wants to so badly predict meaning behind things but sometimes there isn't any other meaning there.

Your argument from the start has been that they have hurt millions of people, and we have hurt a few. Now, you are faced with both foreign and domestic issues, and you say "oh, well they still had more." Is someone who murders 1 person any less guilty than someone who murders 2?

you're still implying that I stated one is better than the other. I just made general statements about something.

Maybe in your own mind the way you interpreted, you thought I was implying something (which the brain would do) but maybe you need to step away and think about it. Seems like you just hit reply and just let autopilot go. Wouldn't be surprising, essentially that's how any modern human is running.

i dunno, millions of completely innocent people being harassed or a few hundred suspected bad men?

So, what did you mean by this?

Looks like a question to me. If you chose to take meaning from it that is your fault. But I never said one is better or worse. You would automatically take meaning from that kind of question though. So, I can see where problems can occur for a normie.

Ah, so you're backing down from your argument now. Surrender accepted.

what argument? Never knew I was in one. But if you feel the need to justify something... I won't stop you!

I've already accepted, no need to keep going.

Consider this a thread-wide +.

at least the usa has a free press

hahahaha

Oh, look someone else pulling the nazi card. Since you're not jam I'll let you know though that I am not talking about the American citizens (I have around 20 relatives there) but the administration, especially Bush's.

Anyway I know there abig differences between the countries, but I was quoting the points about North korea the media is most upset about at the moment.

Starving their own people and subduing are definately terrible crimes but are they justification anough to wage war on the very same people?

People like you really need to come down from their "We are the good guys, we can do whatever we want" horse.

Just look at the current events in Iran, I bet two weeks ago you never thought demonstrations like that would ever happen.

last i've checked (today in fact) we werent trying to start another war with north korea, but rather they've been saber rattling if you will for months because of internal politics.

the us cant do much about north korea other than talk. the real power in this situation is and will always be china.

regardless i dont think north korea is stupid enough to attack south korea. long ago i think the us military determined that the only way hold off north korea from invading south korea is with nuclear weapons, something north korea is sure to know also.

and ya the nazi card was premature, i'll save it for later :)

one of worst comparisons ever made in the history of mankind.

good enough to get people thinking, I'd say.

usa has the real internetz

Just because you're an outcast in your own country no need to hate on everyone else.

Play less computa games and stop being a cunt.
People might accept you more.

i think you wanted to reply to #0 with that one?

Outcast? No. Minority? Sure. There was a time when supporting the constitution and the bill of rights made you patriotic.

The UK is even worse, but we're catching up to you.

lol welsh :E

xD

Western nations should NOT judge other nations by their code.

and what is this supposed to even mean? We went in and blew up Iraq without having any proof that there were WMD there. North Korea has always had the capability to make nuclear weapons, outright threatened us with them several times in the past, is actively threatening us now while we have DIRECT proof that they have them and intend to use them, and we still don't act.

We don't care if they have nukes - we're only involved at all because South Korea is an ally. America wouldn't take direct action since our government is currently trying to sell us a war with Pakistan and Iran. We simply don't have the troops to fight everywhere, and drama like this only slows down their real intentions.

way to get all your news from the daily show

I can't even understand why Americans went on Iraq campaign, did they really thought they could find some nukes? I Imagine them going house to house ringing a bell and saying: "Hey! we're americans, do you have some weapons of mass destruction?"

oil

Might aswell nuke Iraq and afghan too..

I wonder who actually believes that North Korea/Iran/any other country may nuke the USA one day...

Christopher Hitchens =)

It's about whether Iran could nuke Israel and North Korea, Japan.

Not bloody likely, but paranoia keeps certain politicians in office.

Nuke Jamerio now, it's the only way to be sure.

You might get me but my cronjobs will live on.

Where are the days of Thomas Paine?

Its Thomas the Tank Engine mate.

"Seriously, is anyone else from the west sick and tired of treating broken nations like these with an ounce of respect, when they talk like this?"
remember Afganistan, back in 80s?

a strong country may use a poor country as an excuse to challenge another strong country, without entering into international law jurisdiction

"Just nuke them, seriously, do the world a favour and rid the planet of nations like this. It might cause some short term mayhem, but in the longrun"
nuke them, with the excuse of longrun? ntz ntz ntz
while you might be right at some very limited extend, maybe Hitler was right in the longrun too, but this is the last excuse you might wanna use in politics (even if the consequences will be mathematically true)

Someone please nuke the UK.