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Demo

Spartie -vs- Cypher (120 comments)

( Major Demo: Q3)

Posted by Danmer @ 14:33 CDT, 8 July 2009 - iMsg

Event: EMS IV




	0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
Rating: 9.4 (26 votes)

Gametype: Duel
Map: Various Maps
Mod: CPMA vq3
Viewpoint: MVD (GTV)
Version info: CPMA 1.47
How to play back Q3 demos

>> 70376-spartie-cypher-1_1-dm6.dm_68 <<
(1338KB, 1195 DLs)

>> 70379-cypher-spartie-1_2-dm9.dm_68 <<
(1336KB, 895 DLs)

>> 70381-cypher-spartie-2_1-dm6.dm_68 <<
(1326KB, 1195 DLs)

>> 70382-cypher-spartie-2_2-dm9.dm_68 <<
(1283KB, 805 DLs)

>> 70384-cypher-spartie-2_3-t4.dm_68 <<
(1340KB, 956 DLs)

ESL Major Series IV - Q3 1x1 GrandFinal (Bracket)

Spartie vs

Cypher

Results

Edited by xou at 14:48 CDT, 8 July 2009 - 49047 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 14:56 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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deafquaker

nice demos.... spartie won first then lost second best of three... so who won the final?

<< Comment #13 @ 16:59 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #1

cooller...

35%

<< Comment #71 @ 12:04 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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ashr - Reply to #13

cooller wins tourneys he's not even aware of.

BEST PLAYER EVER.

<< Comment #77 @ 16:55 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #71

every q3 tournament is held just to determine who'll be second behind cooller

Edited by tifu at 16:56 CDT, 9 July 2009

<< Comment #14 @ 17:03 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (pD9590708.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #1

cypher did, spartie came from loserbracket

<< Comment #2 @ 14:59 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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n1ghty

according to the rules ... cypher. anyhow they showed a really nice matchup and i'd like to see much more of these games. and pretty much smart moves, especially from spartaaaa! :)

<< Comment #3 @ 15:07 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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shlaeNg

DAMN.

<< Comment #4 @ 15:16 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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ddk

spartierox

<< Comment #5 @ 15:18 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Nukm

wp spartie, sadly wasnt enough
cypher also played good, so gratz

some movie material in this demos!
watched spart1e pov on gtv, gonna watch cypher pov later ;)

<< Comment #6 @ 15:21 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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cry_me_a_river

deserved final, didnt expect such intense matches, was worth watching

gg wp

<< Comment #7 @ 15:29 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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_Rapid_

first two maps showing a very strong spartie but, don't know why spartie losses all this talent in the decisive maps, maybe relax?

<< Comment #8 @ 15:53 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Bartender

instead of 2x best of twos for a finals where they have a winner's bracket winner and a loser's bracket winner, they should just have a best of 5

<< Comment #15 @ 17:09 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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ashr - Reply to #8

and how is that fair to the guy who didn't lose a single game throughout the tournament?

<< Comment #16 @ 17:14 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #15

by giving him 1 map win to begin with

<< Comment #27 @ 18:13 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #16

not enough.

<< Comment #35 @ 21:43 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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shady8701 - Reply to #15

:PPPPPPP
in some weird twisted way, it is
lol

<< Comment #52 @ 05:00 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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impulseBE - Reply to #15

he had to play less games to reach the final!

<< Comment #92 @ 11:03 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #15

He still had to play less games then the player who had to go through the loser's bracket. On top of that, both players end up with one lost game, but the winner of the grand final lost the less important one.

<< Comment #94 @ 16:44 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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tifu - Reply to #92

wat?

<< Comment #96 @ 21:31 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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Naghokez - Reply to #92

In double elimination bo3, when you lose two bo3's, you're out. It's the same for everyone. The one who wins is the only one who hasn't lost two bo3's. How can that possibly be unfair? :)

<< Comment #98 @ 04:23 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #96

It's not. I'm just saying that playing only one set in the grand finals isn't unfair either. If it were, you would expect it to be benefical to to lose the winner bracket finals on purpose, which it is not.

It's true that the advantage of the winner bracket's winner would be somewhat diminished, but that's outweighed by a real, not anti-climatic final imho

<< Comment #99 @ 05:29 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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ashr - Reply to #98

you're looking at it from a spectator's point of view. i agree a bo5 would be better for that as you get to see more maps played but a lot of players at least at this map rely on picking their strong maps twice.

<< Comment #108 @ 07:37 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #99

Yeah, definately from a specs point of view (though for real spec-heavy tournaments i prefer groups+single elim). For fun tournaments it doesn't matter too much I guess, but even then, having one final only affects two players.

<< Comment #110 @ 09:09 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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Naghokez - Reply to #98

It would be unfair to the winner of the WB to only have one set in the grand final. Everyone would get a second chance but him. With double elimination, the only fair way is the current system.

<< Comment #9 @ 16:13 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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s7ry

too bad for that 2nd dm6... :( wp anyway

and goodbye q3 :(

Edited by s7ry at 16:21 CDT, 8 July 2009

<< Comment #42 @ 02:20 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #9

I've been hearing this since 2002...

<< Comment #10 @ 16:35 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr

A fantastic game, but the end-result made me sad.

<< Comment #11 @ 16:37 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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fazz

Us Swedes, endless choke! Need to bring back lakerman!

<< Comment #20 @ 17:34 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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loveless - Reply to #11

isnt he playing poker now?

<< Comment #25 @ 17:48 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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pface - Reply to #11

...or fazz

<< Comment #39 @ 23:09 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #11

wasn't he known for choking in the finals? (at least in q3?) :(

<< Comment #54 @ 07:28 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #39

At least he won one?

<< Comment #57 @ 07:53 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #54

that was the nordic championship though?

<< Comment #58 @ 07:56 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #57

But he won some shit in q1 didn't he?

<< Comment #61 @ 08:00 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #58

yeah, tgi.

i was thinking about q3 though (think he had at least 3 second place finishes in big tournaments.)

<< Comment #64 @ 08:17 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #61

Blue won something! YES HE DID!

<< Comment #65 @ 08:25 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #64

Locktar won last big qw lan. Swedes still got it :D

<< Comment #67 @ 08:39 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #65

QW doesn't count anymore. Needs prestige to count.

Edit: It's like saying I won the gathering q4, the last q4 tourney with money! There wasn't even a news post about it outside of Norway :)

Edited by fazz at 08:40 CDT, 9 July 2009

<< Comment #68 @ 08:40 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #67

Its not like q3 and ql scenes are so much bigger. This ESL online tournament was about as prestigious as that qw lan or recent duel online tourney in eu (can't remember name now).

Edited by terrorhead at 08:42 CDT, 9 July 2009

<< Comment #69 @ 08:59 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #64

yeah atomic arena, i remember that! everyone was so shocked that fatal1ty finally lost. :D

<< Comment #118 @ 15:00 CDT, 15 July 2009 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #64

Yea, fame, thanks to that one q3comp bug... :D

<< Comment #12 @ 16:41 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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MFM

3-2 in maps in favor for spartie. GG spartie for mapwin.
Spartie didn't play cypher in the lower brackets.

<< Comment #29 @ 19:21 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #12

Yes he did, the final match is also a LB match since both players then had lost one set bo3 each in the tournament.

<< Comment #17 @ 17:21 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Paladia

I personally don't agree with having a losers bracket to begin with. It just makes the winner bracket games less interesting and mean less.

As far as I know, no major sport ever has a loser bracket so I'm not sure why FPS gaming does.

<< Comment #18 @ 17:29 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #17

because elements that cannot be controlled can play a big factor online

<< Comment #19 @ 17:32 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #18

The same is true for real life sports.

<< Comment #21 @ 17:34 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #19

if you're going to compare environmental conditions to poor technological conditions then shut up now.

<< Comment #22 @ 17:41 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #21

Aaron, why do you always become so aggressive in every single post when you are out of arguments?

Edited by Paladia at 18:10 CDT, 8 July 2009

<< Comment #24 @ 17:47 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #22

I'm out of arguments?

jesus, you're fucking stupid and cannot read.

<< Comment #26 @ 18:08 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #24

I rest my case.

Edited by Paladia at 18:10 CDT, 8 July 2009

17%

<< Comment #28 @ 19:09 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #26

you sure got me!

<< Comment #34 @ 21:43 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Snip - Reply to #28

yeh... he sure did

<< Comment #51 @ 04:35 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #34

yeah, all those well informed arguments he presented to begin with sure got me

<< Comment #74 @ 13:35 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (78.129.57.117) - Reply to #51

No really he got you.

<< Comment #89 @ 06:45 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #51

lol egd

<< Comment #103 @ 05:59 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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mindz - Reply to #51

pwn3d

<< Comment #43 @ 02:30 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #24

egd.

<< Comment #31 @ 19:43 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #22

do you really think, you made an argument?

<< Comment #48 @ 04:19 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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link - Reply to #22

reminds me of kdawg!

<< Comment #63 @ 08:13 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #17

Actually whatever mr admin.

LAWL

Edited by terrorhead at 08:27 CDT, 9 July 2009

<< Comment #114 @ 09:53 CDT, 12 July 2009 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #17

then spartie wouldnt have made it to the finals? since he had lost in the first place down to the losers bracket.

<< Comment #23 @ 17:43 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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sk!a

Awesome stuff! Well played both, congrats cypher! :)))

<< Comment #30 @ 19:40 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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rexobb

proud?

<< Comment #32 @ 19:44 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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Nukm

cypher had a lot of packet loss during the whole match, is that noticeable while playing? (gladly never had such a bad connection)

<< Comment #38 @ 22:56 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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ashr - Reply to #32

oh yea packet loss is very annoying.

<< Comment #46 @ 03:00 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #32

i think he is pretty much used to his sucky connection, although that sucks for him and his opponent.

<< Comment #59 @ 07:57 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #32

you can pretty much see from his pov that he doesn't hit nearly as much as he should, and that his movement sometimes doesn't make sense. that he still winds up winning is a pretty good testament to how talented he really is; those saying that cypher is all about aim should really reconsider.

<< Comment #100 @ 05:34 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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ashr - Reply to #59

those saying that cypher is all about aim should really get their heads checked.

fixed.

he's no cooller in the brain dept. but he's still got pretty solid tactics. reminds me of toxic when he was dominating q4.

<< Comment #101 @ 05:49 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #100

but toxic was more consistent though :)

<< Comment #33 @ 20:37 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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phz

BTL!

Youtube vid plz

<< Comment #36 @ 22:41 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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amt

Really nice match, pretty tied at the beginning but in the end great winner... WP Paladia !

<< Comment #37 @ 22:51 CDT, 8 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead

77% rail LAWL

<< Comment #49 @ 04:22 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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link - Reply to #37

statistics LAWL

<< Comment #62 @ 08:12 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #49

should have been 85 actually but cypher fucked it up :(

and yes this is very important!

<< Comment #40 @ 00:37 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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squishy

I feel stolen from my money.

second best of three is a completly different match shouldave had a different fixture. :/

<< Comment #44 @ 02:35 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #40

22:31 CEST 7 Jul 2009 squishy 3013 24.9% Lose 12072
Fixture: (Lost) EMS4: cypher vs spart1e - spart1e

;D

<< Comment #72 @ 12:07 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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squishy - Reply to #44

BASTERDS!

<< Comment #60 @ 07:58 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #40

I agree! When betting in normal sports you always bet on the initial outcome. Not even overtime is counted :p

<< Comment #73 @ 12:07 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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squishy - Reply to #60

Yes! Cmon give me my money so i can wager it all on spartie again.

<< Comment #41 @ 00:41 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8

any chance to get non mvds?

<< Comment #45 @ 02:59 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #41

mb ask the players?

<< Comment #47 @ 04:00 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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selle

Great match and all, but am I the only one to notice that Spartie fumbles away a lot of his RJs? At this level of play one would think that the players should nearly master such things.. maybe his crazy handling, almost waving around with the mouse has something to do with it? :)

Anyways, grats to cypher!

<< Comment #50 @ 04:31 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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raithza - Reply to #47

spartie should sign up for a rocket jumping lesson from stermy

<< Comment #53 @ 06:45 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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rax- - Reply to #50

Haha +

<< Comment #55 @ 07:34 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Veritas_ - Reply to #50

:DDD

<< Comment #117 @ 19:36 CDT, 14 July 2009 >>

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hoens - Reply to #47

You mean the level of play where you don't get paid? Good point.

<< Comment #56 @ 07:36 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Veritas_

Any chance to get cypher's pov demos?

<< Comment #66 @ 08:37 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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shlaeNg

must see?
Second dm6 was a fucking mess.

<< Comment #70 @ 09:00 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #66

whenever the score is close, the game is somehow automatically labeled "must see".

<< Comment #82 @ 20:01 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #70

close frags and comebacks. there´s just tension.

<< Comment #84 @ 02:04 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #82

doesn't mean the game is good, or even worth watching. you could have a close game between two guys who never even touched the game before.

<< Comment #85 @ 02:25 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #84

dm17mgonly!!!!!

<< Comment #86 @ 02:33 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #85

best ffa map, ever. :D

<< Comment #75 @ 13:47 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Ryan2015

Why all the useless talk Youtube it damnit >.<

<< Comment #76 @ 16:25 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #75

I've already uploaded cypher pov last night. Gonna add spartie pov later today.

http://www.youtube.com/user/wateri14

22%

<< Comment #78 @ 17:05 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #76

You need to inform us of such things. Well done though!

<< Comment #102 @ 05:56 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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rockz ' - Reply to #78

YEAH

<< Comment #81 @ 18:50 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #76

you're a fucking nerd :(

<< Comment #87 @ 03:21 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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Ryan2015 - Reply to #76

You da man!

<< Comment #106 @ 07:08 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #76

registered 3 april 2009, and already more populair than LIAM!

<< Comment #107 @ 07:36 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #106

wtf you can also get popular by doing something instead of only writing witty comments o0

<< Comment #109 @ 07:42 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #107

obviously..

<< Comment #119 @ 15:02 CDT, 15 July 2009 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #107

What? Naaaaah...

<< Comment #79 @ 18:00 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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browser

that rocket kill on dm6 no2 at like 13 mins was great. lexer did a similar one in the same room but at less range

<< Comment #80 @ 18:13 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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Nukm

as i can see all the esr folk was on the eu gtv. damn, the ru felt way better connection wise but i missed the known faces in gtv

"this guys are no cooller in this map" :D

Edited by Nukm at 18:17 CDT, 9 July 2009

<< Comment #83 @ 23:53 CDT, 9 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #80

eu ?

<< Comment #88 @ 04:25 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #83

was the first ip takingbackesports? well, i meant the first ip

<< Comment #90 @ 07:36 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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Quetz_ru

nice rail at 2:30 on t4 by Cypher ;-)

<< Comment #95 @ 21:23 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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me - Reply to #90

tis called a 'yuka'

<< Comment #97 @ 00:50 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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bl4ze - Reply to #95

or 'yuka-rail' ... xD

the new term for those wtf-rail.. haha

<< Comment #91 @ 10:13 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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bl4ze

mg FTW on t4 !!!
n lol gauntlet battle at the last min xD

<< Comment #93 @ 15:15 CDT, 10 July 2009 >>

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player_one

CYPHAAA

<< Comment #104 @ 06:08 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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Something

Spartie's dm6 game is just awesome :)
I would love to see spartie vs an in form toxic on dm6, but its prob never going to happen :(
I do remember an early quake live demo of toxic beating spartie well, but spartie was saying smth about a new config/fov change.
One can only hope!

<< Comment #105 @ 06:12 CDT, 11 July 2009 >>

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Spart1e - Reply to #104

i was saying it was one of my first games in ql while tox had played it pretty much already. And i was still making a cfg....

<< Comment #111 @ 02:46 CDT, 12 July 2009 >>

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Anonymous (pD95901D4.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #105

oh ITS ON! swedish-railwhore fight outside.

<< Comment #112 @ 03:20 CDT, 12 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead

kefir high accel win

<< Comment #113 @ 07:51 CDT, 12 July 2009 >>

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shady8701

omg spartie is the new rapha :D

<< Comment #115 @ 09:56 CDT, 12 July 2009 >>

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13m3

smartie

=]

<< Comment #116 @ 07:20 CDT, 13 July 2009 >>

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phz

Nice games

Spartie is a dm9 pimp. Makes dm9 look like hub when he's on a spawn kill rampage. Awesome enemy/situational awareness.

<< Comment #120 @ 13:29 CST, 10 February 2010 >>

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spu568

"you can make a lot of money with spart1e if you sell rocketjump scripts":D

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