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r_vertexlightning still fuckin (41 comments)

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Posted by nemecel @ 21:29 CDT, 17 August 2009 - iMsg

Yo

this cvar is still fucking the maps like puting weird tangent sharppy shadows on it

fucking syncerror said "YO we've fixed it already" but i still get these fucking shadows all over the place

i want my r_pocmip 5 r_mapoverbrightbits 5 and r_vertexlightning 1 bright and clean image without crappy shadows around the walls like i had it on q3 you stupid cunts cant get this thing allright

post any cfg that do this ok if you said that "it already been fixed" cbause i dont think SO

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<< Comment #1 @ 21:32 CDT, 17 August 2009 >>

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h8m3

YO we've fixed it already

<< Comment #2 @ 07:19 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1

Prove it with screenshots.

ps: I was drunk, lmfao at grammar. But I still wanted to make a post about this.

Edited by nemecel at 07:19 CDT, 18 August 2009

<< Comment #10 @ 12:59 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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.syL - Reply to #2

lol you drunk SOOO COOL!!

<< Comment #12 @ 15:36 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #10

I have also a very good looking girlfriend.

<< Comment #22 @ 01:00 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #12

pics or it didn't happen.

<< Comment #23 @ 02:35 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #2

shit eater

<< Comment #3 @ 07:48 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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trippy

they need to force config settings... all this tweaking whine! I'm still on install settings and i would still spank you.

<< Comment #4 @ 07:59 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #3

Go whine some more about the shitty netcode silly. Good luck with Failkiller.

<< Comment #5 @ 08:00 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #4

i think the netcode is slightly more important then you tweaking your config

<< Comment #7 @ 08:05 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #5

hurr durr

<< Comment #6 @ 08:00 CDT, 18 August 2009 >>

By

Kaloos

What a nice way to ask for a fix :)

<< Comment #8 @ 12:41 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

By

nemecel

Anyone?

<< Comment #9 @ 12:46 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

By

zealot

no idea it's fine for me...

r_picmip 6
r_mapoverbrightbits 5
r_overbrightbits 0
r_intensity 1.5
r_gamma 2
r_enablepostprocess 1
r_vertexlight 1
r_dynamiclight 0
r_ignorehwgamma 0

<< Comment #13 @ 15:37 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #9

Thats because you use r_overbrightbits 0, which makes it look dark, grey and boring and sad as fuck.

<< Comment #14 @ 15:38 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #13

Just post a screenshot!

<< Comment #16 @ 16:12 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #14

screen posted

<< Comment #17 @ 16:13 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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zealot - Reply to #13

yes, all that and some great looking bright green enemies. :)

<< Comment #18 @ 16:14 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #17

Yeah, I also miss brightskins looking actually bright.

<< Comment #11 @ 15:18 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio :

Show me a screenshot, the likelyhood of this is..

1) The suface area of the affected polygon(s) is too large and the distance betweeen the vertices is too great for the normals to calculate the light in a subtle enough fashion. Imagine trying to draw a straight line on a piece of paper without a ruler. The longer the line, the harder it becomes to keep it straight.
The ruler acts as a constant series of vertices, which is why we use them.

Or the geometry is not planar, at least in relation to where the vertices are.

triagulation won't help because it won't add vertices at the key areas. I would not exepct a fix anytime soon, IMO this is a dirty job which would involve going round the problem areas one by one and adding in more reference points so the distance between the vertices is somewhat smaller so it will give the lighting an easier time.

I have no idea of what I'm talking about, so this might be complete nonsense.

Edited by Jamerio at 15:31 CDT, 19 August 2009

<< Comment #35 @ 18:36 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Thorin - Reply to #11

I have no idea of what I'm talking about, so this might be complete nonsense.

That's taken as an unwritten disclaimer with every post you make.

<< Comment #36 @ 19:52 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #35

If you say so.

But the fact that you feel the need to point it out actually tells me otherwise.

<< Comment #15 @ 16:11 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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nemecel

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4728/crappyvertex1.jpg

<< Comment #20 @ 17:20 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #15

Yeah its the geometry,its a bit messy in those areas and as I initially stated, the distance between the vertices is also too big.

Remember these map files are 10 years old, fixing this "problem" would raise the polycount and seeing as its hardly noticeable when "desired" graphics are settings are used I would not expect it to get done anytime soon.

You will find problem areas like this on nearly every map.
I also butchered likelihood in my above post!

Edited by Jamerio at 17:31 CDT, 19 August 2009

<< Comment #19 @ 17:20 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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tbone

r_simplemipmaps? possibly?

<< Comment #21 @ 19:37 CDT, 19 August 2009 >>

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Reyn1r

why not mapoverbrightbits 10?

<< Comment #24 @ 06:01 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #21

why not replying with something useful

<< Comment #25 @ 07:32 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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c1 - Reply to #24

did you ever wrote something useful?

<< Comment #26 @ 07:35 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Reyn1r - Reply to #24

why not mapoverbrightbits 10? It's useful.

<< Comment #27 @ 07:37 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Reyn1r - Reply to #26

Wow, amazing. No shadows!

<< Comment #28 @ 07:40 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Mou7on - Reply to #27

Agree, I use 10 too with lower gamma and I almost got no shadows.

<< Comment #29 @ 09:26 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #26

More than 5 its illegal, plus a cheap workaround.

Edited by nemecel at 09:27 CDT, 20 August 2009

<< Comment #30 @ 09:59 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #29

The irony being 6 and above fixes the problem :)

<< Comment #31 @ 10:39 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #30

Well, i just tried and it doesn't fix much. What other settings you use.

<< Comment #32 @ 11:31 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #31

C:\Documents and Settings\YOURPCNAMEHERE\Application Data\id Software\quakelive\home\baseq3

filename=qzconfig

Results

filename=reconfig

Results

Rename your files replace them with that, see what happens, go to the problem areas, see waht the r_mapoverbrightbits is, it gets better the higher you go.

I don't know how this will impact other areas on the game though. My config is all done through the menu, apart from the odd FPS, duno not played in ages.

like above said higher the overbrightbits/ lower gamma hekps it, but not sure you would have to play with illegal config.

id's facult for allow so much control over the video.
They just over complicate things.

But the real cause of the problem is what I said.

Edited by Jamerio at 11:38 CDT, 20 August 2009

<< Comment #33 @ 11:54 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #29

illegal? get a clue

<< Comment #34 @ 17:14 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #33

Most tourneys won't allow that degree of customisation.
I.E. > picmip 5 is seen as illegal.

Lots of players like to play within tourney rules, even on net.

Edited by Jamerio at 17:15 CDT, 20 August 2009

<< Comment #37 @ 20:14 CDT, 20 August 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #34

don't think it's most tourneys m8

<< Comment #40 @ 08:37 CDT, 31 August 2009 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #34

most tourneys meaning the CPL about 8 years ago

<< Comment #38 @ 03:25 CDT, 21 August 2009 >>

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JayDee_

Ya the "problem" definitely isn't fixed. But whats the big deal?

<< Comment #39 @ 08:16 CDT, 31 August 2009 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #38

looks like shit?

<< Comment #41 @ 10:41 CDT, 2 September 2009 >>

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nemecel

Bump for fix.

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