maybe he tripped on his toe, maybe he subconciously evaded confrontation with the keeper remembering his previous accident which almost ended his career. maybe celtic are always ruthless in tackles and confrontation. regardless, the referee always stood by his decision even after the game. the rules clearly state the referee, not uefa, have the final word of a decision. therefore this ruling was never going to stand. this foul was not beyond reasonable doubt, the precedent it sets is stupid considering what drogba, ronaldo and others regularly do without being punished.

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I can't stand these soccer cunts to be honest. If his team were on the receiving end of this shot, he would definitely say "It's the referee's call. It was not a goal".

Seriously, what mongos :)

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Really? Haven't seen that before. Mostly it appears a player/trainer will do whatever he can to gain an advantage.

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So you make a dramatic thread about a player "diving" (and correctly having a ban overturned) and then you say you even like controversies.

I don't think he dived, I would jump too if a keeper came sliding in too, otherwise something like this may happen.



Also Eduardo had his leg destroyed over a year ago like hnns pointed out.

So shut up.

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For fucks sake, it hurts to even look at this. :S

i'm croat, and eduardo dived.

who gives a fuck if his leg was broken a year ago? that has nothing to do with this. so celtic players are supposed to say "ah yeah he fell cause he was scared lets give him a free penalty"? noone forced him to be quiet after the referee's decision and play dumb, even if he got a penalty. could have won the fairplay award if nothing.

uefa fucked themselves with this witch-hunt, rooney dived 2 times within the next week, noone said a word.

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He "dived" but there was contact, so it was a foul.

every single replay shows there was no contact. even the one called "eduardo didn't dive".

Yeah, that's why he tries to bring the ball under control with his left then his right leg is knocked and his balance is lost.

He's either the best actor and mime alive (with total control over every single part of his body) or there was contact.

if you knew the reputation of his former club....

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yeah, lets say diving is a part of their training process

What's that got to do with anything really?

All that matters is if there is contact. If there is contact, no matter if the player dived it's still a foul.

i don't know which replay you've seen, but every single one that i saw out there clearly shows a dive.

If it was so clear, then why has it been reversed?

It's by no means at all clear cut. There's a large possibility of contact having been made even if it was slight and since Eduardo was moving fairly quickly it's quite easy to take someone off balance.

You can see him try to take control of the ball with his left foot and he even tries to adjust his footing with his left foot before his right leg is clipped.

I'm sure he "dived" once the contact was made but you'd be stupid not to in that situation.

its reversed only because they realize that if they do this, then the whole concept of referees is broken, the games wont be over after the final whistle, but when all the replays are checked afterwards, and uefa can't go there, cause its a pretty dark and fucked up place.

Edit: he had only loosen up his right leg when the keeper came close, probably expecting a contact, but sadly for him, he wasn't close enough.

You can't proove there was no contact, it's not really clear either way.

well i guess they studied it from 50 different angles before making the decision, even if we don't have some cam, they do.

if they weren't 100% sure, they wouldn't risk this, would ruin them

I don't think they did study it at all actually, pretty much the night of the game all the papers were carrying quotes from Uefa officials about it and saying he'd be banned for 2 games (that bit wasn't quoted obviously).

Then shock horror a few days later he gets banned by Uefa for 2 games.

decision to ban him for 2 games is pure bullshit, i don't know what were they thinking in that moment. honestly.

but he dived 100%, he already began to fall down as the keeper was coming to tackle him, that right foot stands just besides the keeper, but it's not touching him. no way. if that is a contact, its similar to a fly standing on his leg.

Like I said I agree he dived, but there's simulation+deception and diving when you've actually been fouled.

The first is obviously wrong and cheating (Although there's far worse and more important things to sort out) and the second is perfectly fine.

I think there is enough room to doubt either way with the footage available.

No, the second is not fine if you're trying to gain an unfair advantage which he in this case did in my opinion. I agree you do not have to fight for your footing at any cost after another player has touched you in such a manner that is in violation of the rules. But the contact in this case, no matter how you look at this, was extremely minor to begin with. You also see how that right foot comes forward, his toes touch the ground, but then he decided to lift it again basically causing him to fall in this spectacular fashion.

Anyways, the footage doesn't clearly show anyway, so pointless arguing.

No it's fine, if it's a foul it's a foul.

Not all contact is a foul, but in this case it would have/is. Eduardo was moving at speed so any contact made can easily take a player out.

Dive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u38DykT_kYY

sry no foul he faked!

Yes, Rooney dives all the time. He should have been sent off there for a dangerous tackle too.

I may be from the UK but I'm not the slightest bit patriotic :P

orly?

I find that Terrys statement quite funny what was it?
"We english are too proud to fake like that" or something like that he said after eduardo, gg rooney! :)

Yeah, I can't stand these English twats who cheat week in week out then go on about being honest.

Rooney and Gerrard are two of the biggest cheats in the world, not to mention all the violent tackles and abuse they throw about.

who gives a fuck if his leg was broken a year ago? that has nothing to do with this.

It has something to do with it if UEFA took "intent" into consideration in their speculations.

uefa being retarded is another thing

intent generally can't be taken into place by the referees decision ingame, but it should be taken into account in uefas "inquisition" in determining the penalisation.

wrote a post about that ^^

lmao@football

What else was the keeper supposed to do? I mean is he just supposed to stand there and ask him nicely not to just walk the ball into the goal? At some point he's forced to tackle him.

it's nice to have decision power there
your decision might be wrong yet you get a load of money (bribery) to revoke your decision

Make some sense retard.

The reason UEFA decided do drop his ban had nothing to with whether Eduardo dived or not. When they admitted they weren't going to look at any other incidents in the future this ban looked quite ridiculous and arbitrary. Not to mention the bizarre Scottish influence concerning the whole thing. It was a can of worms they weren't going to open.

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The Scottish guy has been moved to a different department I heard.

This is why i don't like soccer.

really? try watching basketball or something.

basketball cricket

I don't think I have seen it for more than 10 times in my life, and that's on TV.

my bad, misread it as baseball for some reason :)