posted this for stn

2v2 ftw!

satan is back? :D

forZe - Mikes, Satan, Devil, Pow3r

no, this http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1794969#pid1794969

TRUE WORDS!

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2v2 rox

2v2 > all

I rock!

wat?

you heard me!

ql community requests fixed game

but dont forget how community requests ruined Q4

good point, but... how can you ruin something what is already ruined ?!

lol'd a bit :D

2v2 \o/

new maps. before more +b gameplay modes.

hear hear!

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2v2 needed, dont funny!

lol ye 2v2 public servers, awful
use esl gather system and get a private tdm server where play 2v2

there are no 2v2 servers needed, only a lock cmd on public tdm servers
and like Dix said, open an ESL gather to get a priv server if u wanna play 2v2

Don't you need a premium account to access Gathers ?
Why should I have to pay ESL to play 2v2 in QL ?

you dont need prem

ql would be so much better with vehicles it's not even funny

on another note, i saw a 4max ca server today, not seeing why tdm should get the shaft, they could also just make some random small map 4max to serve as 2v2's cobalt station

feeder said in this topic:

„Right now, the only way we can play 2v2 is using ESL Gather and wait 15-20 mins for an admin to spawn a server.. if we're lucky. [...]
So my suggestion is, make it possible to change maxclients to 4, the whole tdm scene will appreciate it.“

then you get some idiots going spec and blocking the server, or can't have any spectators what-so-ever. captains + lock command would be a far better option

Maxclients 12 + /lock and you can have what you want.

its fine for organized matches, but for public 2v2 play it would be easier to have 4 slot server imho
but we could use both anyway ;)

Lock would be the wrong solution - you want the server to disappear to players looking for a TDM when there are enough players (otherwise randoms will try and join). You need it to either be a private server, or for maxclients to be 4 so that it disappears when the server is "full".

That would be great, at least add an option like CA has at the moment, forcing a public server to maxclients 4 with a map.

Like community requested NEW maps and a map contest .. well, we all know where ID stands..

+1

2v2 \o/

The enter key, find it

Also quakelive needs maps, that's what the community should be requesting above all

yeah i'd probably play far more tdm if random pieces of shit couldnt join in and gay it up

lock command isn't needed, it would ruin the concept of a free game when you aren't even given a chance to play.

Private servers however, i would suggest

Wow, some peoples' views are just insane and pathetic. How can you even consider discussing that? We already do have more servers so I don't get your points.

To be honest all of you haters, flamers, trolls whatever you are trying, maybe you're just trying to put yourself in the middle by criticizing something which actually is just not criticizable at all.
Adding such servers has only positive effects for TDM.
And by adding such servers I do actually mean whatever id wants to do. Easiest would of course be either a voting system or a /lock command. Such changes could be made in minutes to the QL source! For instance it actually almost only is copy&paste from OSP.

And why should 50% of TDM players always have to wait for servers while any other mods (even the fun-instagib) can be played after a single mouseclick.

#32
"lock command isn't needed, it would ruin the concept of a free game when you aren't even given a chance to play."

I assume you must be just one of those guys joining a 2on2 on a public server when no other spectator is watching? At least you do sound like that.
Maybe just change the server when the others want to play 2on2?. I think there are enough servers for everyone.

And prior to your responses I urge you not to say anything when you are not for it, because it won't change anything for you when not concerned anyway.

are you the old cheater satan?

aNc satan you mean?

i don't know, i just remember some old satan cheating or not thread with a jamerioamount of text, was quite fun.

This one?
Satan Banana Phone!

oh how i miss picmiped weapon effects :(

dont you miss your virginity too?

hehe

still there im sure...

WTF who cares about 2on2????

need moer v3h1c3ls on dm6!! like a chaingun hammer truck!!

would eventually balance this fuggin map!!

ratatatatata rulez !

idea of the year award goes to..

I need a redeemer on dm6!

you mean the TOXIC-suit? :D

rofl@major

kinda given up hope of id helping communities :/

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esl gather stay on the server, search new opponent u have priv server where u can do whatever u want (except for changing gamemode) for like 19478782487 hours...

you can also just reopen a gather that is set for 2on2

tdm 2on2 is great. its so much easier to get one buddy then 3 of them in the same moment for practice/match. and as cool as esl gather is, you cant fuckin get 2on2 gather even if you are super l33t. public 2on2 servers would be awsome from this pov. if CA can have it, TDM can as well.

I think coaching functionality is also really an important feature missing atm..

How can you play TDM if you can't coach.. and if not used for coaching used for the substitute player so he can be on the server viewing the game instead of stay somewhere else not getting a thing of the game.

but anyway i'm really for 2on2 servers one way or the other but I kinda gave up on ID being there for the community :(

I hope they never add coachmode

Yeah because the sub can't just coach anyway?

Coaches ruin TDM as it allows teams to just focus on aiming rather than coordinating themselves.

I hope they never add coaches. Everything a coach does should be done by the players during a game, and that's my opinion as someone with woeful timing.

coach doesnt need to be on the server to time items for you ?

lol. coaches suck.

Players have to think for themselves. Not some coach commanding them what to do. Having good aim and movement, but shitty teamplay skills should get owned by a team with less skill, but good teamplay.
Not that I see something like that happen anytime soon in QL as it's allready a lot of aim.

Lol... ppl against coaching functions... :(((( didn't know that..

So if you are with 5 players in a clan and you play 4on4 tdm or 4on4 ctf the 5th player can never see the game / or follow it.

imo that is plain crap.. and the only way is 'spec blocking' the player so you can't see it from the opponents povs/ free floating cam as a spectator and that is basicly already 'coaching functionality'

Well anyway it's not that big of a problem :) QL TDM isn't taking of anyway so :) no point in discusing about posible developments anyway they will just not happen

That player can either wait until he gets ago, or join a team with 3 other people.

Well i think coaching system would be nice though.

Coach can coordinate and tdm players can focus on aiming is a posetive thing i think. :)

Though i would rather would seen /lock command or some new maps first.

Honestly?

QL tdm is allready pretty shallow and you want to make it even worse? Isn't it awesome if 4 players learn to play together and use awesome teamplay?

God.. I imagine me playing a qw 4n4 game with someone shouting in my ear what to do. That would be so gay :D

hehe thats youre opinion.:)
But having coach doesnt mean automaticly good teamplay. :D

I would like coach mainly for timing things i cant really imagen a coach leading a tdm team becouse to manny things happen during a game.

But thats my opinion :D

why doesnt anybody use the esl gather system, its very easy to set up 2on2s there. and the games will be on passworded servers. if you want to play 2on2, theres no problem doing so.

Isn't it insane somebody has to use the 'gather' system to play a 2on2...

come on.. it's 2 seconds work for ID putting some 2on2 servers in the rotation. (and 4 seconds adding some fancy coach / teamlock / speclock functons)

sure, but the gather thing is superior to 2on2 servers in the rotation

(and 4 seconds adding some fancy coach / teamlock / speclock functons)

was added after your reply :P

ofcourse coach is missing. the other 2 things are not relevant, if you play a gather

How's this journal major news?

2v2 best mode for QL!

good call there !!

this is gonna be ignored like the rest of requests...sad we have to beg id to implement things we had years ago, that only 1 guy managed to do in his spare time!

QL is not exactly Q3. Some otherwise simple things are a lot more complicated than most of you guys might think.

yeah I guess coloring grenades into pink is more important than listening to people that actually play the game

How the hell did this make the front page. There are so many other better things that need to be added/fixed in Quake Live.

i was asked to post this as part of a unified request that has been posted on different sites. feel free to write and organize something similar for an idea you support. i wasnt sure if i should major it btw but given the lack of other news i thought i wouldnt hurt and judging from the feedback it wasnt the wrong choice. hf whining

it was barely readable and it contained no actual 'news' as such.

seriously?

Somebody made a post on a different forum! Alert the internet!

your new nick almost fooled my into writing an actual reply ;)

Your major news had the same effect.

where is you major news about the nick change btw! People need to know these sort of things!

how can anybody disagree with this.

coaching and teamlock on publicservers?
plz stfu, you dont understand quakelive

if ca has 4slot servers tdm should follow suit
and waiting for hours in a fucking esl gather only to play a fast game is pointless

just as a reminder: beta.

Here is a reminder to you:
Its been 1-2 years and barely anything has happened.

Here is another one:
They have ads on the site now, which (in my opinion) means that it isn't a free game anymore.

The only adds I've been able to spot is for IDs own products. Running the site with adds doesn't mean it's done imo. Especially when it's their own adds. They'll need something to test with, right?

It's kinda true that they haven't done a lot for the pro-gaming community. But that's not the only ones playing.

ive seen ads for movies and such in game

And gum.

k haven't seen those :(

They had ads for Dell when it was still in closed beta

I'm curious, what do you call "Free-TV" ? ;)

free tv?

but it shows you commercials!
How can it be free then?

dont you have to pay a tv license in germany?

it's a bit different.

You are supposed to pay something for having a tv and therefore the ability to receive TV (very crappy system). That money goes to the public tv stations, not the private ones.
If you want cable you also have to pay for getting that connection.
If you have satellite or digital-tv you only have to pay for the receiver (dunno if the tv companies get a share).

However, in no case you have to pay private stations directly.

Yeah, but only for those that are "subject to public law". Dunno if that's the correct expression, though. :)

We don't pay it for the commercial television called "free tv". And those are the ones that can basically place as many as ads as they want to -- as opposed to the subject to public law ones.

edit: too slow.

yeah really, cant believe they make 2on2 servers for CA but not TDM.....TDM >>>>>>>>>>> CA !?!

2v2tdm plz id!! xD

allow kick voting in some kind of match-mode oder smth

Shouldn't you ask AGP first?

just give us the ability to host servers, to mod and to map already ; you'll put your ads while the map is loading

I'm against coaching too.. its lame and who the hell would want to coach anyways? :p

Also.. Why can europeans play gathers but in North America id SPECIFICALY tells us NOT to! Whenever you ask for a server spawned from an admin somewhere they give you a big lecture about how you can ONLY use it for a match or scrimmage, usually ONLY for the league that the admin is a part of. They specifically say pickup games are not allowed and will get the admins spawning privelages revoked. It has pretty much all but killed the pug scene in NA completely.. whenever you do see one these days its being held under the fucking disguise of a fake scrim with people wearing fake clan tags... wtf kind of shit is this id, we just want to play the damn game... D:

This is something that is already underway. I made changes weeks ago for us to start running 2v2 pub servers.

[+]whore ;)
good to hear that. you should really start to communicate with the community a bit more again

What else is underway? :o

not grateful cause you let ql fail and you will not receive pluses from me...ever...just wanted to tell you

I'm sure he's really cut up about it.

yeah release gtv before anytrhing else new though....

+1 for tdm server

VOTE for 2v2 !

PS: we need more PL2 server btw :D

Agreed. 2v2 TDM servers would be great.

STN bro lets pwnem all ?

im not sure about coaches.

the eurocup games, cpl's (london for instance) and lan arenas WITH coaches , where the best tdm games we ever saw imho.

watch some u vs ic demos on dm14,,,,,, thats fucking amazing and nothing compared to current tactical play.

Yes please!

bump

<3

Although it took id pretty long.

can we now request new maps + /scores + coachmode ?

you can try but if it took 4 months from the time of this news posting for 2v2 TDM servers, it'll probably be christmas before it comes around