the technology for a nonfucked sensor has existed for soo long. I don't get how they manage to fuck up that one aspect?!

to shreds you say

Great episode. ^^

Aren't they all?

it must be because they are scrubs and/or don't use their own products because if they did they would have noticed

You knew it had accel when you purchased it, less bitch.

Yes i did, i wanted to see if i can get used to it (i could... 20cm sensitivity over a whole QcK Heavy gives only 1 gate [such as on qzca3/qzctf7] width of accel if you were about 4meters away from it) and also if i could find a fix myself (i can't)

All the text in the drivers leads me to beleive it could be fixed in a firmware update, which is what i want confirming.

The lovely thing about return deadlines means i can bitch all i want until the times up to return it :D Had the mouse not cost £47 i'd of kept it. For £47 it needs to be completely perfect... and i havn't decided if it is yet.

now tell me about STOKED ENERGY DRINK pretty please

The Abyssus sounds good novice.

pro's
1 - wth has an ambidextrous design to do with controlling small movements? wth has an ambidexrous design to do with a mouse being small or not?

con's
1a - you do realize steelseries did not add any sort of mystic acceleration to their mouse to sabotage you? it's the fault of the sensor they used. why quote their manual which has nothing to do with the problem at hand?

1b - what they mean with this paragraph is: leave win sens at default and control everything through dpi changes. that's pretty good advice exactly because of what they wrote. no need to make fun of them or accuse them of lying(!?).

bottom line: you're weird :/

1 - Personal oppinion i.e. it's a personal review, not a group survey you dickhead.

Next up:
1b is also 1a, which are also both related to 1 mate - and to sum that one up; "are you a retard?"

To elaborate:
I quoted the each section where they mention anything in regards to accelleration, and hense why i added 1a and 1b, because they are both related to 1... is it really that difficult to understand you (to sum up again) "uneducated faggot?!" I assume you dropped out of school by the time you were 15.

To explain why:
You get this information when you look at the drivers... i.e. if you have a question you open the (and i quote) "PRO GAMING ADVICE TAB". I've bolded everything where they recommend turning acceleration off - each one is directly related to one of the driver headings - and it's the fact you can't actually turn it off is what makes the whole scenario so amusing, because they are clearly saying that:

"you should turn off accel if you're a fps gamer on the XAI by setting x value to y - because all of our advanced pro gaming research (check their website) has brought us to that conclusion. But it really doesn't and so we're instead just going to predend it does."

For example:
"Changing win setting from anything other than the sixth notch will add fixed acceleration" - WELL STEELSERIES, YOUR MOUSE HAS THAT ANYWAY!

Or to put it back to you as a question:
http://i47.tinypic.com/ele2h1.png <- do you not think that being under a heading called "HARDWARE ACCELERATION" - steelseries should be honest that their mouse has natural hardware acceleration?!

So in summary:
I expect a £47 mouse to do what they say it will, and not just "pretend it does, even if it doesn't" - and i like to perhaps think that because SS have mentioned all of that, that it could actually be fixed in a firmware update - but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

The summary of the summary, i.e. The TL:DR Version:
Don't mess

p.s. Insults are cool.

first of all you do not seem to even have read the my post ...so yeah.

you're mixing up two entirely different things: a) steelseries recommendation towards mouse acceleration (software) and b) xai's sensor being a huge fuckup (hardware). both have nothing to do with each other.

- they're not lying to you when they try to help you set up your windows mouse drivers.
- instead the hardware used in their latest mouse is faulty and produces inconsistent readings(?).

that's all.

i think it's rather funny you bought the mouse fully realizing it doesn't work the way you want it to work. you bought it only to be able to bitch and whine about it on esr. fail, lol :(/

good job calling me an "uneducated faggot who dropped out of school when he was 15" and be unable to use (what i assume is) your native language. it's "hence" not "hense" and i think you really should look up the meaning of the word "ambidextrous".
hint: it has nothing to do with group surveys or the size of something :p

But they are saying that pro fps players should turn hardware acceleration off, HARDWARE ACCELERATION. CAN YOU READ THIS? HELLO? HARDWARE <--------

-------> http://i50.tinypic.com/1xxfgj.jpg <---------

Do you work for steelseries? You're as retarded as them that's for sure. If they are saying we should turn it off, they should fix the firmware or use a better sensor all together so it actually does what it's pointless market research has suggested in the supporting text. What's so hard to get? Do you think i was asking questions in my review? No, that's because they were all rhetorical, do you know what rhetorical means because my point on you being an uneducated faggot still stands. (Btw, that was also rhetorical)

... and yes i knew about the problems, but what's your point? Are you that stupid that you did not know that you can return items if it doesn't do what it's supposed to do? I bought it to test, because i'm sick of my Deathadder shape, and here is my review. My review clearly states at the end of it that i have not yet decided what i'm going to do yet, but as i have seen the supporting text suggesting things the mouse simply cannot do, i can return it under RMA if i want.

I have never said amidextrous means group surveys or relates to mouse size lol, this is where your ability to read has clearly let you down. However the shape allows a person to use both claw and palm in any given situation. Using mid-high sens i often switch to claw grip when i am MG/RG'ing accross the map, pushing my wrist into the mousepad for greater accuracy. So the shape benefits that. Jesus christ your an embarassment to your country.

My review is not bitching or whining, i havn't even used the mouse enough yet, it's primarily based upon only the hilarity at the fact that Steelseries cannot grasp the concept of creating a mouse to their own specification, instead just giving impossible scenarios in their recommendations. However at the other end of the spectrum, i also have some hope that if they have recommended this stuff, perhaps their is some truth behind what they are saying and at one point, they tested the mouse and noticed zero accel. So i'm hoping for a firmware update. I think that's the third time i've said that now.

But it seems to me so far that their epic "pro gamers" who have tested the mouse, bottled negative feedback as to what everyboyd looks at in a mouse, accel.

I have never said amidextrous means group surveys or relates to mouse size lol, this is where your ability to read has clearly let you down.

1 - Ambidextrous (much easier to control small movements as the mouse is smaller)

also sarcasm... not your thing.
you think i'm an embarrassment to my country? great, i'm improving. another homophobic nationalist from the uk hates me, yay.

you bought the mouse to have something to whine about on esr. you lose. end of discussion please stop jamerio'ing me.

ps. i got the feeling you didn't grasp the concept of the word 'rhetorical' but keep trying :p

I'm not from the UK

So you say, mr Peanut. :D

He was basically just commenting on the irony of SS going on about accel and research, allowing you to turn it off, how great their testers are then the mouse has accel which you can't turn off...

His comments on the shape where just him describing why he likes it it.

I also purchased one knowing there was accel because I wanted it to be good.

Well it has some accel and I don't like this all that much but decided to persevere anyway. Accel is not an issue because I knew it would be there and hope it will be fixed.

I use a cloth pad that is quite new and clean, however the sensor hole and the surrounding indentation/sticker picks up ALL the dust. The feet do as well. None of my other mice (deathadder/v3/random non gaming logitech cordless) have ever done this.

It is annoying to say the least since the dust/random hair getting in on the sensor causes tracking issues.

The sticker section around the sensor almost seems designed to pick up dust.

Just putting that out there because I consider my gaming area quite clean compared to most of my friends and it may be an issue for people.

+1

I really hope they can fix the accel.. dunno if i'll send mouse back

Havn't had the dust problem yet though

I use the Qck heavy and have had no dust problems... I give the qck a wipe occasionaly with a jumper or whatever is around, looking at the bottom there is no dust around the sticker or the feet... maybe yours got too much glue or something?

I've decided to return the xai until they produce a new fixed batch and/or firmware.

One of them will happen, but with Steelseries not processing orders until 9th January i have little to no hope of them actually addressing any issues with the xai until February...

did you saw the graphs in your other xai thread? They pointed out the sensor of the g9/xai sucks.
Logitech was able to make it less worse than steelseries but there was still accelation. So I highly doubt steelseries can fix it when logitech cant. Logitech driver developer are more skilled and or more experienced than steelseries.

btw it was your own fault to buy a mouse when everyone on esr says it has accel

It's not a problem as he got his money back?

in this case he just waste his time

He's got plenty of that :)

hehe i know, but i was hoping i could get used to it, i used accel many years ago so it was wishful thinking :)

As it happened though, i could not get used to it, so it wasn't a big deal, now i have first had experience with this mouse and i know that the avago sensors are almost perfect, maybe next time i can get away from the deathadder. Steelseries obviously know what gamers want, everything they have done (except the accel) is perfect, their market research has led to promising results...

For now, i have all my money back as it was free shipping! No time wasted as for 2/3 days, i had some motivation to play quake again.

How do mouse companies keep cocking up these vital details? Waste less time on LCDs and infinite DPI setting BS and just make it work.

I was wondering that myself, albeit with a bit less hostility :P I don't see why they couldn't post more of their r&d process and make something like sujoy's mouse score, although professionally done and continue to develop a mouse that beats out the competition in every category (but not necessarily DPI).

I suppose they are at the mercy of the folks who actually make the sensors, since they probably couldn't go in to making their own and keep the unit price low enough to remain profitable. Still, there have been some good sensors out there and they could probably use some of them instead of the 'latest and greatest' that may be suffering from accel problems.

I think that Avago has too wide a range of markets to really worry about their latest super high DPI laser sensor having some accel issues.

I'm hostile because of one of these details they can't seem to sort out- putting something to protect the cable where it enters the mouse so it doesn't break internally and die. All of my mice die this way, usually sets in after only a few months and I have to mock up dodgy cable protectors with bluetac and paper tubes.

Nobody would really trust such a test if it's made by a mouse company. ;)

ofc SS can't make their own sensors but they got some "special solutions" for the sensor from Avago cause they want it

PS: People shouldn't forget that it's still a business and SS like every other company wants to make some money

Because it sells.
We're a minority of regarding/caring gamers thus only good for advices, and only the CS & WoW newbs are bringing monies.

cs players are just as stingy as us :p

The guys playing at a decent level and with some knowledge yes... but they're still a minority compared to the thousands of casual pubplayers who are buying these mice because it has got over 9000 dpi and/or because it got advertised as used by "pros" of whatever team :)

haha that's every game :|

Yes but not every game has the same amount of players. And I met a lot more of clueless newbies (the kind that buys DPI's) in CS than in quake.

it's because they rather waste time on bullshit they can use for marketing that's more important than the actual product.