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One of the Best T4 Games of All Time! * (126 comments)

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Posted by Streetrunner @ 22:37 CST, 4 January 2010 - iMsg




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Rating: 7.3 (10 votes)

The AGP Classics Match of the Week presents the 2002 World Cyber Games: This is 2nd round of the losers bracket. One game to move on, one game to go home. Decided in Overtime! Considered one of the better games of all time on T4.

Anton "Cooller" Singov vs

Jason "Socrates" Sylka
The map: T4: Vertical Vengeance II.

* Added Socrates POV*

Socrates (POV) vs Cooller: Part 1

Socrates (POV) vs Cooller: Part 2

Cooller (POV) vs Socrates: Part 1

Cooller vs Socrates: Part 2

Links: AGP Tour

#agptour, Facebook, Twitter

Edited by Streetrunner at 09:24 CST, 6 January 2010 - 42235 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 22:44 CST, 4 January 2010 >>

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yikes

Considered one of the better games of all time on T4.

Because it has Cooller.

Edited by yikes at 22:44 CST, 4 January 2010

<< Comment #3 @ 23:30 CST, 4 January 2010 >>

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roffo - Reply to #1

cooller

Edited by roffo at 23:31 CST, 4 January 2010

<< Comment #13 @ 03:19 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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jal - Reply to #1

Bit hasn't Zero4

<< Comment #14 @ 04:06 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #1

and he loses ... in his best map from his favorite weapon rg :P

<< Comment #2 @ 23:23 CST, 4 January 2010 >>

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InDepther

it's a trap

<< Comment #4 @ 23:55 CST, 4 January 2010 >>

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hoens

Ok I'm going to comment on this because it's just silly that this has gone on so long. If you're going to post a single match across multiple videos, please at least have the decency to post the first video, then the second video as a video response to the first, the third as a video response to the second, etc. This way users can click through after the video ends without having to hunt for the next video. Your annotations are worthless because you pop them up 10 seconds or whatever before the end of the video, and you have no overlap, so you can end up missing stuff.

10%

<< Comment #5 @ 00:04 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #4

umm this complaint is redundant, he has both links on esr neway, and user is not necessarily closing esr page.

<< Comment #7 @ 00:13 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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hoens - Reply to #5

Not necessarily != not.

<< Comment #8 @ 01:43 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #7

how dare you to ever close the esr site?

smells like probation...

<< Comment #47 @ 10:39 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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hoens - Reply to #8

In my defense I'm thinking more of when you link others to the games, and you link the youtube video instead of esr.

Did that save me? I thought it was gewd.

<< Comment #48 @ 10:47 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #47

made it even worse.

<< Comment #50 @ 11:02 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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hoens - Reply to #48

Well.......... your face!

<< Comment #51 @ 11:51 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #5

both links weren't up when the post was first made

<< Comment #6 @ 00:07 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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ztaale

Theese movies would be great if...

They used a decent config with brightskins etc.
they didnt have the black boxes on the edges.
???
PROFIT!!

<< Comment #9 @ 02:05 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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TUMULT

I'm sorry, but cha0ticz vs fatal1ty was one of the best match on T4 of all times!

<< Comment #11 @ 03:07 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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uPro x1t - Reply to #9

u right ONE OF the best, that one - one of the best too.

<< Comment #23 @ 06:31 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #11

OF AAALLL TIME!

<< Comment #25 @ 06:57 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #9

you mean the deciding map for eswc (or was it wcg) right?

<< Comment #57 @ 14:51 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #25

Map decider for who goes to WCG2002

<< Comment #10 @ 03:04 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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squishy

and yet again an American winning :)

<< Comment #15 @ 04:32 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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sonic - Reply to #10

oh how AWFUL

<< Comment #20 @ 06:03 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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squishy - Reply to #15

yes i feel gutted!

<< Comment #12 @ 03:08 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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uPro x1t

cooller was destroyed by t4 @ wcg2002 =(

<< Comment #58 @ 14:52 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #12

Well, in coollers defense, he still got away with the best move of the entire tournament :)

<< Comment #16 @ 04:36 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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mammon

cooller best player ever

<< Comment #17 @ 04:37 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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lizahd

need wcg final zero4 vs lexer , the campish one. on t2 ofc !

Edited by lizahd at 04:38 CST, 5 January 2010

<< Comment #43 @ 09:30 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #17

hey, i know you :)

<< Comment #126 @ 10:20 CST, 21 January 2010 >>

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lizahd - Reply to #43

help me? :)

<< Comment #18 @ 05:35 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Bloodpa1nt

Lame compared to Czm vs Toxic.

<< Comment #30 @ 08:14 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #18

u r lame compared to this h3h3h3h3h3h3hh3h

<< Comment #31 @ 08:19 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Bloodpa1nt - Reply to #30

Your mom is in my bed.

<< Comment #36 @ 08:52 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Kwibus - Reply to #31

What is his mom doing in your bed? Strange... very strange

<< Comment #39 @ 08:58 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #36

I suppose it's the polish version of a retirement home.

<< Comment #19 @ 06:01 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Curious

These videos show exactly why all the weapon damages should have just been left alone in the first place.

<< Comment #21 @ 06:13 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Bloodpa1nt - Reply to #19

Agree ;-)

<< Comment #79 @ 02:25 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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squishy - Reply to #19

easily said when there is no lg

<< Comment #80 @ 04:00 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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Curious - Reply to #79

But there is a rail which everyone hates :/ Just proves if you play smart, you will hardly get hit.

<< Comment #110 @ 22:36 CST, 7 January 2010 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #80

not in 2010

<< Comment #111 @ 11:43 CST, 8 January 2010 >>

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Curious - Reply to #110

I forgot. Everyone's dumb now. :|

<< Comment #122 @ 02:53 CST, 10 January 2010 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #111

no, just you :|

<< Comment #22 @ 06:29 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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ambro

10minute duels do feel like quickies in compare to this 15minutes journeys. not to mention overtimes.

<< Comment #26 @ 07:41 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #22

Absolutely. And journey is a very good word to describe what goes on in 15 minute duels and why I prefer it over 10 Min, both for play and watch.

<< Comment #29 @ 08:01 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #26

Edited by Bob at 01:40 CDT, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #59 @ 14:56 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #29

Watching a 15min game might get boring for some, though they didn't change to 10min for the sake of the specs... Why they changed, I don't know.

Also 10min might be good for practice games, but not for tournaments.

<< Comment #69 @ 16:09 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #59

Edited by Bob at 01:40 CDT, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #71 @ 16:59 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #69

Yeah, most noobs say that.

<< Comment #75 @ 20:55 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Thorin ' - Reply to #69

boring people get bored easily

<< Comment #73 @ 18:00 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #59

because 10 minutes fits on youtube!

<< Comment #115 @ 11:18 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #22

its the speed.

<< Comment #24 @ 06:36 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Anonymous (h189n1fls32o286.telia.com)

Imma let you finish but Zero4 had one of the best T4 games OF ALL TIME!

<< Comment #60 @ 14:57 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #24

vs Fazz back in 2003!

<< Comment #27 @ 07:49 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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frozen`

BRING BACK T4 FUCKERS!!!

<< Comment #33 @ 08:34 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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uPro x1t - Reply to #27

no way!!! ^_^

<< Comment #37 @ 08:53 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Kwibus - Reply to #27

Oh god.. t4 is depressing.

<< Comment #42 @ 09:29 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #27

this is pt4 anyways. let's talk about t4 with thrufloors ;)

<< Comment #28 @ 07:59 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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[mash]

i did some research and it turns out ... cooller really is the best player ever.

<< Comment #32 @ 08:20 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Anonymous (80-240-220-85.dnat.migtel.ru) - Reply to #28

so, i guess, this is official now?

<< Comment #34 @ 08:35 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #32

my sources are valid, so yeah ... it's official.

<< Comment #35 @ 08:52 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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twister - Reply to #32

hi cooller

<< Comment #38 @ 08:54 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Kwibus - Reply to #35

Cooller doesn't question it. He would confirm it.

<< Comment #40 @ 09:08 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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ambro - Reply to #35

no, just Antonymous

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<< Comment #41 @ 09:28 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler

why, why must you ruin quake with youtube? :(

<< Comment #49 @ 10:52 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Amp - Reply to #41

Your comment is astoundingly stupid.

To think that YouTube somehow "ruins" Quake.

People like you are the reason Quake is where it is right now.

<< Comment #53 @ 12:48 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #49

on youtube?

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<< Comment #105 @ 02:07 CST, 7 January 2010 >>

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dcy - Reply to #53

DEAD!

<< Comment #116 @ 11:20 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #53

lol

<< Comment #44 @ 09:42 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler

also, sudden death was the only worthy overtime method. was one of the first things that began to ruin q3 when they changed it to 2 min overtime

<< Comment #93 @ 15:41 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #44

yeah that must be why everyone told id to change quakelive back to 2min

<< Comment #45 @ 09:52 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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CAREEM

t4 is worst map ever

<< Comment #46 @ 10:27 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #45

u mean pro-t4

t4 was fun. It was much more harder without the tele.

<< Comment #62 @ 15:02 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #46

dont know never played q3. For me pro t4 and t4 are the same tbh,

<< Comment #72 @ 17:15 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Streetrunner - Reply to #62

The original T4 doesn't have a teleporter and the items are placed differently , this one having an RA and mega and no ya's. You can also shoot through the floors on early versions but that was fixed in a patch I believe. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAGPTour#p/u/14/cq9K2UU6pGc is an example of the original.

I actually would have preferred both versions in Quake Live. Or a merger. They could have added the top floors to have a different texture like on T7 in Quake Live for the top area. But anyways, the map is a nice changeup either way.

<< Comment #74 @ 19:37 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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yikes - Reply to #62

It's the worst map ever, but you don't know b/c you never played it?

<< Comment #52 @ 12:31 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Lethe

epic

<< Comment #54 @ 12:56 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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torfteufel

where did all that pointless agp hatred go to?!?!

feed the kids some candy and they will be as good as gold....

nice vid btw

<< Comment #55 @ 13:39 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Loop?

I appreciate the effort and all, but next time pls use brightskins.

<< Comment #56 @ 14:41 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Sa1Nt_

T4 is the worst official duel map ever :S

<< Comment #63 @ 15:02 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #56

[+]

<< Comment #117 @ 11:22 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #56

good thing this is pro t4 then.

<< Comment #121 @ 16:35 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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Sa1Nt_ - Reply to #117

oh you.

<< Comment #61 @ 15:01 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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JDMYO

czm vs aim (ambix) T4 was a hell of a match and had "THE" best ending to a T4 game "EVER", officialy ;)
Post it, I wanna see it again :)

<< Comment #64 @ 15:26 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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JDMYO - Reply to #61

Just had a quick look for this game on youtube. Couldn't find it but I did find an FFA game that I think was a qualifier at a LAN tourney. Wow! czm's aim is stupid! 123 kills in 15 mins, Serm 2nd with 97. czm is like an aimbot in this game. Pretty off topic here but wanted to post this somewhere for others to see :) A couple of times he clears whole rooms of about 4 players. Also, 63% (or it may have been 64?) rail. His MG is insane also.

<< Comment #65 @ 15:42 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Jalle - Reply to #64

Link?

<< Comment #67 @ 16:01 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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JDMYO - Reply to #65

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rx4zY8sFHc

<< Comment #77 @ 22:39 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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Jalle - Reply to #67

Found it myself but thanks :).

<< Comment #66 @ 15:54 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #64

Isn't that from quakecon? can't remember what year though...

<< Comment #68 @ 16:01 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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JDMYO - Reply to #66

Yeah, 04 I think.

<< Comment #76 @ 21:43 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #64

czm is one of two players to treat the RG like a melee weapon.

<< Comment #84 @ 10:21 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #76

who is the other ?

<< Comment #86 @ 10:23 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #84

daler

<< Comment #70 @ 16:13 CST, 5 January 2010 >>

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ScanX

people can bitch all they want against AGP, but I love those weekly vids

<< Comment #78 @ 01:10 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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sixide

Zero4 vs. Ni3 on pro-q3tourney4 that ended something like 24-21. This sticks out in my mind as one of the best t4 games I've ever seen. I can't remember if it was CXG or maybe even an online tourney, but that's around the right time period.

Also Jibo vs. Toxic for laughs.

<< Comment #89 @ 14:36 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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Borl - Reply to #78

I remember an amazing Daler vs elpajuo pt4 game... elpa was quite a way ahead and Daler performed a great comeback. I've been searching for it for ages, cyberfight etc, no luck though.

<< Comment #96 @ 16:07 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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sixide - Reply to #89

That was a bad comeback because elpajuo went afk at the end of the game.

<< Comment #97 @ 16:11 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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sixide - Reply to #96

Well if it's the one I'm thinking of. Those two played a match on tourney4 many times.

<< Comment #100 @ 16:48 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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Borl - Reply to #96

Pretty sure he didn't go AFK in this one.. not physically anyway, possibly mentally though. He could probably have delayed his spawns and evaded Daler enough with his lead to hold on and win.

<< Comment #123 @ 09:52 CST, 10 January 2010 >>

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baron Railgun ' - Reply to #89

GGL 2004
I could send you the demo but I'd have to kill you after

<< Comment #81 @ 04:15 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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BalkanFM

youre a fucking idiot streetruner, this isnt the first time you gave us the losers pov

<< Comment #83 @ 09:56 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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Streetrunner - Reply to #81

Apologies on that. I actually didn't realize it was Cooller that lost until the very end when the demo suddenly switched to Socrates POV (which I don't know why). SO, I put Socrates POV up for you guys last night and ran it through OSP as the first wasn't for some reason. Still a good game on both POV so, there ya go.

Edited by Streetrunner at 10:07 CST, 6 January 2010

<< Comment #85 @ 10:23 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #81

tbh in that coollers pov is more educational on how to play t4 when ur aim is not as good as your opponents.

<< Comment #82 @ 05:02 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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clan519

Lol at the newbs saying t4 is a bad map. T4 is one the best maps in q3, period.

25%

<< Comment #87 @ 10:35 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #82

lol at a newb saying t4 is one of the best maps

<< Comment #88 @ 13:25 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #87

lol at a newb judging Q3 maps when he hasn't even played Q3.

and yes, this makes you a newbie by definition.

<< Comment #90 @ 14:41 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #88

He's right, though.

<< Comment #91 @ 15:18 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #90

T4 is the only map I can think of that has no lg, has rail, and is full of elevation changes and fun angles. Playing on this map is constant cat and mouse fighting and rocket angles and prediction. It's like hub only without lg whoring. Hub should've left lg out.

<< Comment #92 @ 15:27 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #91

No.

<< Comment #99 @ 16:29 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #92

No? No what? No clue what makes a good map? That's obvious.

<< Comment #104 @ 21:47 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #99

Just no.

<< Comment #106 @ 02:21 CST, 7 January 2010 >>

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dcy - Reply to #104

even so.. people prefer to use rail over lg there.

<< Comment #108 @ 02:26 CST, 7 January 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #106

... what?

<< Comment #109 @ 02:30 CST, 7 January 2010 >>

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dcy - Reply to #108

in hubaeroQ3, least..

<< Comment #118 @ 16:07 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #109

lg is an easy spawn rape weapon, at least you can attempt to dodge rockets. whenever i play or watch hub i see a lot of lg.. a lot. it makes the map feel smaller than it is somehow.

<< Comment #120 @ 16:19 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #109

used to, like in the czm nows

now it's shaft as much as any other map

<< Comment #101 @ 21:04 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #87

stfu you worthless russian piece of pig meat

<< Comment #94 @ 15:44 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #82

t4 sucks, most ppl who like it only do because there weren't many (if any) good maps at the time it was played and it grew on them.. kinda like dm13 tbh

but hey, im a q3 newbie too

<< Comment #98 @ 16:28 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #94

dm13 is a great map..

<< Comment #107 @ 02:23 CST, 7 January 2010 >>

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dcy - Reply to #98

let's not forget fatal1ty's fovurite map dm17 with quad damage

HAHAHAHAHA

Edited by dcy at 02:27 CST, 7 January 2010

<< Comment #95 @ 15:50 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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roffo - Reply to #82

of all time?

<< Comment #102 @ 21:06 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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Alchemist03

t4 - skill map!!...
about best games on t4 for examples...
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1209082
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1226050
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1578068
and of course zero4's games like zero4jibo or zero4daler(CXG)

<< Comment #112 @ 10:46 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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tbone - Reply to #102

I trust this man's opinion.

<< Comment #113 @ 11:13 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #102

zero4 was the king of t4.

<< Comment #119 @ 16:08 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #113

he still is.

<< Comment #124 @ 13:13 CST, 11 January 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #119

hey i love you

<< Comment #103 @ 21:33 CST, 6 January 2010 >>

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Bartender

luck

alltimes rail

<< Comment #114 @ 11:15 CST, 9 January 2010 >>

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rupertt

[+] because cooller loses.
... and socrates had like 70-something health the last 2 min.

<< Comment #125 @ 13:13 CST, 11 January 2010 >>

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Lethe

was 4 rails in a row

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