why are you wanting to change?

what don't you like about the wmo?

Nothing, but if there is a better choice for mouse i might give it a try.

You should try find a mouse with 1800dpi, you'll never want to use 400 on a desktop ever again ^^

GIve name, that's not helping much.

razer deathadder
steelseries xai
logitech mx518
logitech g9x

One of these ^

Doesn't xai have prediction or something like this? I think i read about it but i'd like the sensor to be "simple", like no prediction or positive negative accel. Which of these feels the lightest?

razer deathadder
steelseries xai
logitech mx518
logitech g9x
WMO
3.0

Only mice you need for gaming.

Couldn't agree more :)

if u can get a mx300, add it. mx300 > all

Also, mx518 light?!?! I've used this for months and it was very very smooth, but when i tried it now it feels way too heavy. (even though i think it's official weight is the same as wmo) Out of these, which would be the lightest and have the sensor with the least bullshit?

wmo
3.0
If you want light

but all the mice in the list have no senors problems.
also the wmo and 3.0 will have least hassle with drivers and stuff coz they have none.

especially deathadder, thats a 1800dpi mouse which you'll use with 450dpi. practical.

I've been seriously considering trying out the deathadder, because I want to use a high sens, but the dpi keeps me down, but at the same time, £40 for a mouse I haven't tested out at all, is uncool.

Meh 1800dpi aint that hot. I used a deathadder for a long time at 1800dpi and it was great. Switched to a Xai and now use 400dpi and it's just as good (if not better).

Anyway, if you like the WMO, I'd say try out the Xai. I used to use a WMO, then got a diamondback3G, which was alright, but clicks were crap and side-buttons were in an odd place for my grip. Then got the deathadder which was great, but a different shape, now the Xai which is the shape of the WMO (great) and the sensor quality of the deathadder (also great)

If you really like the shape of the WMO, Logitech MX's and 3.0's wouldn't be too good (they're a lot larger). That said, I got an MX518 and a 3.0 which I sometimes use on my Mac, and they're alright, but I couldn't game with them :P

btw 3G sensor (diamondback3g (same sensor as DA?)) had a bit too high lift-off at my goliathus speed atleast. I've been myself thinking to try out MSIE 3.0 for change. I got also wmo with hyperglides atm.

ps. I'm changing to 120hz monitor and higher reso maybe soon, anyone knows if high/med sens (i play mostly qw) is fine with 400dpi and high reso?

1.1a?

I can comment with certainty about all of the mice listed.

You said you play 10cm/360 - this is very very high sens as i play at about 70cm/360 - very very low. If you are playing at ur sense the xai and the g9x are fine as you wont feel the issue they both have (they use the same sensor). That issue is positive acceleration after 1m/s. thats 2.5 feet a second. You will never move your mouse that fast with your sensitivity. therefore, my recommendation to you would be the xai, as it is the most wonderful thing I have felt, like a super high quality WMO, a tiny bit heavier, but its perfectly balanced. The laser is more responsive and theres no prediction.

For me... I'm having a real problem cause its hard to find a mouse that will function perfectly up to 2.5 Meters a second with no prediction that feels good to me. The deathadder 3.5 G at 450 dpi at 1000hz is closest - but its to heavy and it scraps horribly on the pad. plus the sides are god awful.

Anyways - For you - Xai - No question.

Are you seriously playing Quakelive with 70cm/360 and no accel?

Was thinking the same thing. Most CS players don't even play with that low a sensitivity :P

imo impossible to play with that looow sens without accel, even average aiming with rail... if so viedo should be nice to see ;]

Out of all the things i read, xai looks like the best choice for me but damn 74e is a big price. I don't follow the mouse market, is there any chance the price will drop to 40-50e in the next few months?

You can get them 40-50eu now if you search around. I got mine for 40 I think. Can't remember where from, but I just went to google shopping and looked around

i recommend 800cpi for that resolution.
use a razer salmosa until the positive accel is fixed in the g9x/g500/xai.

Get a salmosa rawgue. Lightest mouse ever.

Now that's a tempting price. $ No side buttons which would be very welcome but i can live without them. The sensor is fine? Searched a bit and only read complains about the squeaky clicks and lift-off distance. I think i only lift my mouse when there is low action around so that shouldn't be a problem.

0.4 cm less wide but my hands are pretty big hope it won't tire my small finger holding it, but only if i test it i'll find out :P

http://i2.sqi.sh/s_1/_old/251249078165/dscf0708.jpg

Keep in mind it's shockingly light. You definitely must try it first.