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Pro abandonment of MX518 (160 comments)

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Posted by Lorfa @ 01:39 CST, 19 February 2010 - iMsg

I was just curious as to why the MX518 is so unpopular with the pro circuit. For example, this is a list of current quake live pros and their mice:

calipt - deathadder
spart1e - deathadder
garpy - deathadder
av3k - salmosa
chance - salmosa
cypher - abyssus
stermy - ms ie 3.0
DKT - ms ie 3.0
madix - ZOWiE Intellimouse 1.1
zsx - imo 1.1a
Cooller - wmo 1.1
jibo - wmo 1.1
rapha - wmo 1.1
ZeRo4 - wmo 1.1
linkje - kinzu
strenx - kinzu
noctis - frankenmouse
k1llsen - g9
z4muz - ?
fazz - ?
fox - wmo?

These are correct as far as I know but I'd be interested in hearing any corrections.

I've been using the mx518 for a while now and it's a great mouse, I really don't need to switch but I like to try different mice and I was curious why it has fallen out of favor. Is it because of the prediction? The salmosa also has prediction afaik.

If you were going to change mice from the 518, which would you change to?

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<< Comment #1 @ 02:00 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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518 is fucking awesome. Why change? Rapha won that LAN in Greece with 518 right?

<< Comment #6 @ 05:11 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1

well it's not very comfortable

<< Comment #69 @ 00:11 CST, 21 February 2010 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #6

That's a matter of opinion and hand size. I find the 5** shape to be perfect for me.

<< Comment #70 @ 03:42 CST, 21 February 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #69

guess it depends how you hold it. if you hold it like I do then the right side ledge cuts right across your finger. insta rsi.

<< Comment #102 @ 10:49 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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Drexciyian - Reply to #70

i snded the side down on when i got my first one (mx500) but used to it now

<< Comment #113 @ 14:38 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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netrex - Reply to #6

That's exactly what it is. The MS IE3.0 and this shape are the most comfortable shapes I've used. It's good the 518 is so cheap these days, I'll get one more at least before I consider anything else.

<< Comment #46 @ 18:57 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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butchji - Reply to #1

What has winning a LAN to do with how good a mouse is? :D
It's not like rapha is an aim-based player.

<< Comment #160 @ 11:23 CDT, 25 August 2010 >>

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ischju - Reply to #1

ive got a mx518 as well. cant stress it enough. never change a running mule...

<< Comment #2 @ 03:59 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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crea* '

z4muz - ie 3.0
spartie - Xai
*edit: that rapha part wuz apparently wrong

There's no need to switch from 518 to newer mice, those players prob. do it because they get the mice for free.

Edited by crea* at 22:12 CST, 19 February 2010

<< Comment #21 @ 10:35 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #2

at IEM NA Finals, he was using 1.1.

<< Comment #27 @ 14:10 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #21

and since he started using it he started to win stuff (4 in a row). I think the only tournament he won besides those was last masters in france, with a mx518.

<< Comment #28 @ 14:52 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #27

He's never won a tournament using the Xai/Kinzu, because he doesn't use it.

<< Comment #35 @ 16:50 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #28

by it I was saying mx518

I know I should put it on () but esr went down

<< Comment #43 @ 18:08 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #35

Then you are correct :)

<< Comment #3 @ 04:33 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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tbone

I never really liked the shape, my mouse progression:

Mitsumi serial > Genius Netscroll > Logitech Mouseman Wheel > Microsoft Intelliexplorer 3.0 > Microsoft Intellimouse 1.1 > Microsoft Intelliexplorer 3.0

The Mitsumi was probably my favourite mouse, when it came to shape and weight atleast, got so many good memories with it. <3

Edited by tB0nE at 04:34 CST, 19 February 2010

<< Comment #8 @ 05:38 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #3

I actually used the Mitsumi a bit. A local cybercafe (T1 in 1996!!!) had them on pentium 166 machines (faster than my 75). I always wanted one but couldn't get them before the place bellied up. There's certainly something to be said for minimalist design in mice.

I also used the following version of the mouseman wheel:

http://www.smartcomputing.com/images/smartcom...284728.jpg

I found it to be one of the most brilliant designs ever done by logitech, and despite that I did not have large hands it worked like a dream. The back of it had a slope that the palm could rest on which generated a lot of control. This was never duplicated by logitech and I have considered many times over the years going frankenmouse with it, just too lazy I guess.

<< Comment #14 @ 06:49 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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tbone - Reply to #8

Yes, that is the logitech I had. And yes, one of the best shapes ever. I have also considered frakenmousing it, as there are many guides out there to do so.

<< Comment #143 @ 03:33 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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�bst - Reply to #14

The microsoft basic mouse has the same kind of nice shape and is really light, sadly though it sucks as it has a lot of negative accel :(

<< Comment #144 @ 04:01 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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tbone - Reply to #143

We are talking about the Logitech Mouseman Wheel, not the Mitsumi.

Edited by tB0nE at 04:01 CDT, 12 April 2010

<< Comment #54 @ 05:49 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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jal - Reply to #8

I had that one too. It was a great mouse, but too big. Had it been a 75% of its size and would have owned.

<< Comment #53 @ 05:48 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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timmah - Reply to #3

My progession

Shitty 2 Button Ball mouse > Some crappy optical one when they first came out > Logitech Mouseman Optical > Logitech MX 300 > Logitech MX310 > Logitech G1 (couldn't find the 300 anymore) > MS 3.0

I tried out the Razer Boomslang as well, but didn't bother for very long. I also switched a lot between 300 and 310 as well as between G1 and MS3.0

Edited by timmah at 05:49 CST, 20 February 2010

<< Comment #111 @ 13:50 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #53

my progression:
Intellipoint Ball Mouse -> intellimouse explorer 1.1 -> ie3 -> ie3 -> ie3

<< Comment #4 @ 04:37 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Kaide

its the shape of mx518

<< Comment #5 @ 04:50 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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rockz '

k1llsen used it in the last eswc (and got second) afaik

<< Comment #61 @ 12:08 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #5

was a joketourney anyway, not really relevant

<< Comment #64 @ 12:41 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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rockz ' - Reply to #61

what?

if i remember correctly there was czm, cypher, cooller, zero4, rapha and many more.

<< Comment #66 @ 13:11 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #64

irrelevant to that tourney

<< Comment #127 @ 09:38 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #66

yeah, considering...

<< Comment #7 @ 05:20 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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cYmoZz

many of the these players are rather small persons - mx518 is for large hands imo (using mx518 myself)

<< Comment #9 @ 05:48 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #7

I used to play with the mx300; I used them for years and ran two of them into the ground before I got the 518. My hands are probably better suited for smaller mice than the 518, but it feels just fine.

I wonder what it would be like to use a smaller mouse again. I came close to trying the salmosa, but like the 518 it has prediction. If I was to change mice, it wouldn't make much sense to switch to a mouse that also has prediction imo.

<< Comment #11 @ 06:12 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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doped - Reply to #7

large hands?.. no mouse is large enough.. most is not wide enough for normal hands.. using ime3.0, and would definitely be better if a bit wider.. still the best mouse shape i've found.. palm, but not like holding a lump like the mx5xx series from logitech.. but then again.. finger grip is awful and breeds RSI..

<< Comment #13 @ 06:48 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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OSEF

strenx - kinzu

????

<< Comment #10 @ 06:11 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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dansen

pic of noctis' mouse?

<< Comment #12 @ 06:15 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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doped - Reply to #10

seconded.

<< Comment #15 @ 06:53 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Trick Troll - Reply to #10

http://www.ncts.at/files/mouse/

<< Comment #16 @ 07:03 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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grimbob - Reply to #15

Hah, reminds me of a failed attempt of mine to take the weights out of the mx500 ;(

<< Comment #24 @ 12:10 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #15

that looks a lot like my old mx300 :))

<< Comment #25 @ 12:39 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #24

some parts from the g3, some parts from the g1 (internals for example)

<< Comment #30 @ 16:30 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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aLeoN - Reply to #25

I was wondering what frankenmouse means. Now I see why you use spacebar for +attack opposed to mouse1 :)

<< Comment #32 @ 16:40 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #25

What the fuck were you doing to scratch it up that much though dude? Fapping with razor blades?!

<< Comment #34 @ 16:46 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #32

that was done on purpose so the surface aint as slippery
btw, those pics were taken before i was actually finished with it ^^

Edited by noctis at 17:45 CST, 19 February 2010

<< Comment #36 @ 17:23 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #34

Ah that would make sense then :P

<< Comment #80 @ 06:42 CST, 23 February 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #34

you fap with razor blades just so the surface doesn't become slippery?

<< Comment #159 @ 09:07 CDT, 22 August 2010 >>

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vib - Reply to #34

new pictures please!

<< Comment #48 @ 19:10 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #25

you're pretty messy for a german.

<< Comment #103 @ 10:53 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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Drexciyian - Reply to #25

damn hope u win some tourney soon so u can buy a new mouse :(

<< Comment #104 @ 11:19 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #103

i got a g9x, g3, wmo 1.1a, salmosa and an orochi next to my frankenmouse :F

<< Comment #31 @ 16:38 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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ralph - Reply to #15

lol. awesome

<< Comment #39 @ 17:42 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #15

D=

<< Comment #17 @ 07:46 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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fws

Personaly I rate G9 above anything else currently produced cause it is kind of flat and short mouse. I was into Dual Optical previously, but the changes made in MX500 didnt suit me, especialy the fact it became bulkier. After checking out many potential replacements I found that G9 fits my fingers and wrist style the best, but only with coarse grip. If you think about it, Wingman Gaming Mouse was flat and short, but I didnt like it back then.

<< Comment #139 @ 09:10 CDT, 9 April 2010 >>

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Pirx - Reply to #17

yeah, that's why i still use a logitech wingman (now as a frankenmouse with deathadder 1800 dpi optics). it's very comfortable when you grip the mouse with the fingers and move your wrist, as opposed to moving your whole arm. i've tried the g9 of a friend and it's the closest to that shape, i might get a g9x with my new comp.

<< Comment #142 @ 12:48 CDT, 11 April 2010 >>

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mental - Reply to #139

You can't say stuff like that and NOT post pics. C'mon now.

<< Comment #157 @ 17:57 CDT, 22 April 2010 >>

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Pirx - Reply to #142

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4917/img1499v.jpg

left: new wingman with deathadder eye (on), right: old one with intellieye (off)

[IMG]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8666/img1498vk.jpg[/IMG]

deathadder wingman

Edited by Torr Samaho at 18:00 CDT, 22 April 2010

<< Comment #158 @ 20:55 CDT, 22 April 2010 >>

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mental - Reply to #157

See now that's just sexy. Logitech, you seeing this? Nicely done sir. Now if one would pop up on ebay, I could try putting an old mx300 in it.

<< Comment #18 @ 08:00 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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wocK_

i like my 518

don't half these players have sponsors from the likes of Razer or whoever have brought out the new MEGADEATHSUPER1337 - 50000000dpi, 5000000000hz UBERPOWNAGE mouse?

<< Comment #19 @ 08:37 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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dem0n

noctis - frankenmouse

<< Comment #20 @ 10:28 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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therm

i switched from mx510 which i used many many years to deathadder 3.5

i havent choosed mx518 even though i LOVE the shape because of its correction and the fact i had to oc usb with some 3rd party software

i was thinkin about ie.3.0 too but again id have to oc it manually while in da its all in driver settings + mouse remembers my sets

there is also one more thing mouse 4 and 5 on mx5xx are just too small to make them useful and i need them badly

the pros like cypher re mostly kids with 10cm in biceps so they prefer smaller mouse-> thats why cypher moved back to abyssus cos deathadder was just too big for him

the perfect mouse imo would be deathadder with the shape of mamba and hardware dpi/hz switches on its bottom or just fixed on max dpi and 1000hz

<< Comment #37 @ 17:25 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #20

"the pros like cypher re mostly kids with 10cm in biceps so they prefer smaller mouse-> thats why cypher moved back to abyssus cos deathadder was just too big for him"

Didn't know moving a mouse took strong bicep muscles...

<< Comment #55 @ 08:39 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #37

ive heard many complains about deathadder and mx518 beeing to heavy so i guess it does

<< Comment #62 @ 12:38 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #55

that's true but has nothing at all to do with being a kid or having a small biceps...

<< Comment #85 @ 04:35 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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eMbAh - Reply to #55

there are other muscles in the body than the biceps

<< Comment #87 @ 10:07 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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gauss - Reply to #85

Bullshit. If you don't believe me I'll beat the shit out of you, just look at my biceps and tell me there's more to life than that.

Edited by profuse at 10:07 CST, 25 February 2010

<< Comment #100 @ 08:39 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #87

these re not biceps

these re synthol

<< Comment #105 @ 11:44 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #100

Lol what. i pruchased his biceps routine and i'm still GROWING after 3 weeks!

http://www.greggvalentino.net/training
it starts like this... but i cant disclosure everything to u coz u have to pay to get it!

* Barbell bicep curl / Seated dumbell curl on incline bench superset
6 sets. 10 reps on barbell and 6-failure reps bench curl
* EZ bar bicep barbell preacher curl - 2 x 6-8 reps, 2 x 4-6 reps (heavy weights!)
* Single arm cable bicep curl - 3 x 8-10 reps
* Dumbell concentration curl - 3 x 8 reps
* Standing dumbell hammer curl - 3 x 10
* Reverse barbell curl - 3 x 12 reps
(...)

<< Comment #135 @ 17:10 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #105

this is a joke right? I can't actually tell :)

So you're working out and it's making your muscles grow? Wow miracle.

<< Comment #138 @ 20:06 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #135

:D

<< Comment #22 @ 11:06 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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draven-

calipt - roccat mouse
spart1e - xai
garpy - 1.1a
dkt g9
z4muz 3.0
fazz 1.1 a i think

ps and i use 3.0 (switched back from DA)

<< Comment #50 @ 19:22 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #22

I really think dkt switched to the ie 3.0, this was before iem edmonton I saw him talking on a server about it.

<< Comment #23 @ 11:08 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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fazz - ms 3.0

<< Comment #26 @ 12:44 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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draven- - Reply to #23

ye he used to ye, but i he switched .. :)

<< Comment #42 @ 17:57 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Trick Troll - Reply to #26

thx, didn't know he changed

<< Comment #29 @ 16:04 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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h8m3

strenx used mx5** before getting sponsored by fnatic

<< Comment #33 @ 16:42 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

MX518's shape is just too big :(

Used a G5 for a while and just couldn't get used to the shape. 1.1/Xai ftw

<< Comment #38 @ 17:40 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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OT: i tried the kinzu but it seemed to have a ridiculous amount of correction of it.

has anyone else experienced that? anyway to fix it?

<< Comment #40 @ 17:53 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Lethe

dahang?

<< Comment #41 @ 17:56 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Trick Troll - Reply to #40

deathadder

<< Comment #49 @ 19:19 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #40

Dahang - ikari optical , I thought he was using the ikari laser at 1800 dpi before

Edited by Lorfa at 19:24 CST, 19 February 2010

<< Comment #76 @ 10:11 CST, 22 February 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #49

He was using DA at IEM NA Finals.

<< Comment #77 @ 10:28 CST, 22 February 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #76

Now he uses xai ...

<< Comment #78 @ 10:32 CST, 22 February 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #77

Confirmed from?

<< Comment #44 @ 18:40 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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retire

the reason: logitech don't sponsor

<< Comment #45 @ 18:50 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #44

microsoft do? :P

<< Comment #47 @ 19:02 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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butchji - Reply to #45

They cost like 5 �. ;o

<< Comment #52 @ 05:02 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #45

yeah... kind of. steelseries sell re-branded ms 3.0 and some of their players use it.

<< Comment #57 @ 10:08 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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retire - Reply to #45

They don't need to. The WMO is just that fucking good.

<< Comment #58 @ 10:35 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #57

True :P

I do remeber Logitech did sponsor some CS1.6 teams a fair while back. In fact, Logitech gets kinda a hard time in the CS scene as well with most people sticking with Microsoft (and nowadays steelseries and razer pops up more)

Only place I've really seen Logitech mice get lots of use is in US and UK scenes and even then it's slim

<< Comment #59 @ 11:39 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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dubcat - Reply to #58

koreans really like the G1 though

<< Comment #51 @ 19:57 CST, 19 February 2010 >>

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apoxic

WMO WMO WMO

<< Comment #68 @ 21:19 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #51

3.0 3.0 3.0

<< Comment #71 @ 06:53 CST, 21 February 2010 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #68

Pft, no one ever wins with that piece of CS-player junk, get real.

<< Comment #118 @ 12:08 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #71

No one eh? Should I make a list for you? Fatal1ty? Junk?

<< Comment #119 @ 13:20 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #118

WOW DUDE THAT WAS THE LONGEST LIST EVER.

WMO is the only real pro mouse.

<< Comment #120 @ 23:15 CDT, 15 March 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #119

I was being sarcastic about making a list yo as there really is no such thing as 'the only pro mouse' but glad you ignored my point by expecting a long list. But when you've won 12 world titles in 5 diff games get back with me. Maybe I'll make a new mouse for you and call it NEO.

Anyhow plenty of tournies have been won without a wmo, in and outside of Q3. Just because rapha and Cooller won recently with them doesn't mean it's 100% the mouse. Cypher's aim was better than both of them in IEM4 finals even though he lost and he was using the Abyssus.

Edited by flowrush at 23:34 CDT, 15 March 2010

<< Comment #126 @ 06:09 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #120

Somebody give this guy a medal or something, he has very valid points.

12 world titles.

<< Comment #56 @ 09:48 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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Anonymous (adsl-76-246-26-108.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net)

hey noctis do you have a pic of your final version of frankenmouse?

<< Comment #67 @ 13:26 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #56

http://blog.pcnews.ro/wp-content/photo/2007/10/hand-mouse.JPG

<< Comment #60 @ 12:03 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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Anonymous (77.127.235.209)

no reason to use mx518 really. wmo/ie3.0 are the absolute best gaming mouses to use and i consider every player not using them as a player which haven't reached his full potential.

altough i admit i haven't tried few of the newer mouses. still the best aimers are usually using either ime3.0/wmo so the facts speaks for themselves.

<< Comment #63 @ 12:40 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #60

no.

<< Comment #65 @ 12:47 CST, 20 February 2010 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #60

if the cable housing comes out of the actual mouse so you can see the wires, the wheel button stops working, needs super glue if you use it ingame

Edited by p0rt at 05:41 CST, 21 February 2010

<< Comment #72 @ 07:19 CST, 21 February 2010 >>

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Mitritch

Meanwhile, pros from Airbus Indstrie still use it in their cockpits...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...fb06rs.jpg

<< Comment #73 @ 19:46 CST, 21 February 2010 >>

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Anonymous (c-24-10-14-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) - Reply to #72

that looks more like mx500

<< Comment #107 @ 17:57 CST, 1 March 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #72

highsens lol

<< Comment #74 @ 05:29 CST, 22 February 2010 >>

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Scarzy

I think we're all forgetting the weight of the MX518, it is much heavier than the WMO/IME3 so it adds to the discomfort of it. The mouse is also too high, aiding the low sens and less movements in games such as CS more than in Quake.

<< Comment #75 @ 09:45 CST, 22 February 2010 >>

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azxx

i am pretty sure fox uses a WMO and Z4muz uses a 3.0, i've seen fazz use a 3.0 too but like some here said, maybe he has changed.

<< Comment #79 @ 11:03 CST, 22 February 2010 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #75

.

Edited by crea* at 08:14 CST, 23 February 2010

<< Comment #81 @ 07:21 CST, 23 February 2010 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #79

Link to pics?

<< Comment #82 @ 08:15 CST, 23 February 2010 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #81

can't find them so I take the statement back. I guess I'm getting old really fast

<< Comment #83 @ 08:17 CST, 23 February 2010 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #82

I believe you I just want to see pics :D

<< Comment #84 @ 08:27 CST, 23 February 2010 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #83

I'm kind of freaked out I never had a bad memory but I think I was blatantly wrong on this one.

I have the picture in my head still....maybe that was a weird fucked up dream where my memories got mixed up, I don't know.

<< Comment #86 @ 05:19 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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GUArd

ie3 shape is realy super for me, but 400 dpi sometimes i feel not enought :/ need atleast ~800 like mx518 have.

<< Comment #89 @ 11:53 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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_gory - Reply to #86

Can't agree more, we need IE 3.0 with an mx518 sensor!

<< Comment #90 @ 13:12 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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2ShellBonus - Reply to #89

like this one?

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3955/imag0044j.jpg

<< Comment #91 @ 16:33 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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_gory - Reply to #90

Kinda :)

<< Comment #95 @ 05:26 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #89

why mx518 sensor is better? tell me single reason?

<< Comment #97 @ 05:40 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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_gory - Reply to #95

"400 dpi sometimes i feel not enought :/ need atleast ~800 like mx518 have"

<< Comment #99 @ 08:05 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #97

im telling need ie3 sensor with 800 dpi.. not with mx518 sensor.

<< Comment #141 @ 11:29 CDT, 9 April 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #99

what do u need 800dpi for? do u use 1cm/360 sens?

<< Comment #88 @ 10:26 CST, 25 February 2010 >>

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gisele

czm = mx300.

best.mouse.ever.

<< Comment #92 @ 01:11 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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h8m3

btw is it only mine 1600dpi version or you also have such issue that moving to the right is a bit faster that to the left
i.e. you move it to the right and then back to the left the cursor wont reach the initial position at most pads like puretrak talent, ss qck, razer ones etc.
however at few pads like everglide titan(fnatic edition) or qpad CT it moves perfectly
tested at 400dpi

<< Comment #98 @ 06:44 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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Anonymous (AMarseille-553-1-270-191.w92-150.abo.wanadoo.fr) - Reply to #92

maybe a bad accel fix ?!

<< Comment #106 @ 15:53 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #98

no

<< Comment #93 @ 02:00 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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Some of the best QW players in the world use the mx5** series of mouse. Reppie, Milton, Locktar, to name a few.

<< Comment #94 @ 04:52 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #93

fuk qw playeros they be noobs

<< Comment #96 @ 05:33 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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frozen`

mx300->g1->g3 always played on this mouses. Don't see any difference if change sens due to DPI tbh.

<< Comment #101 @ 08:46 CST, 26 February 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #96

cos there isnt any

<< Comment #108 @ 01:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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lizahd - Reply to #96

bad decision to go for this mouse.

<< Comment #109 @ 13:00 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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OSEF

rapha - wmo 1.1

no ... :

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../50875137/

z4muz, he tell me he uses IE3

<< Comment #110 @ 13:21 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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zashael - Reply to #109

kinzu? :o

<< Comment #112 @ 14:30 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #109

That's just a wmo with a steelseries sticker on the top.

I know because those are the stickers you get with any steelseries product :p

<< Comment #114 @ 15:50 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #112

it's almost what I thought at the beginning

;-)

<< Comment #115 @ 15:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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Anonymous (95.211.30.36) - Reply to #112

that's pretty hilarious/sad

ss knows they will never make anything even half as good as a wmo

<< Comment #116 @ 16:14 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #115

Well, ironically I think most of SS' early mice were actually just rebranded 1.1 and 3.0s (fancy new paint and feet etc)

That said, I used a WMO for maaaaany years and use the Xai now and think it's really quite good. Can't even go back to the WMO anymore :(

<< Comment #117 @ 19:06 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

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Anonymous (c-98-244-51-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) - Reply to #109

lol nice picture
looks like he is shitting his pants

<< Comment #121 @ 23:31 CDT, 15 March 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #117

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQQuLJXTp_Y#t=19s

<< Comment #123 @ 06:00 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

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mar- - Reply to #121

If fatal1ty is That proud of winning against ppl in Quake 4, even tho he played the game a year before everyone else, imagine what he will do if he won the lottery.
He probely explode..

<< Comment #122 @ 05:06 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #117

Touched by the hand of God

Edited by flowrush at 05:07 CDT, 16 March 2010

<< Comment #124 @ 18:22 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

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j0sh_ - Reply to #122

what mouse & pad is that?

<< Comment #125 @ 19:35 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #124

Wmo 1.1 ( the steelseries logo is a sticker given with their products ) and probably a qck heavy.

<< Comment #128 @ 10:15 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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Anonymous (adsl-75-51-164-1.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net)

I don't understand why everyone wants a mx300, the g1 is the same shape. Even a better sensor..mx300 4.7 while the g1 = 5.8 mp/sec

<< Comment #129 @ 10:47 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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MikeHaggarKJ - Reply to #128

Dont you get negative accel w/ the g1 @ 1.68m/s?

<< Comment #131 @ 14:20 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #129

so what... do you hit over 1.6m/s while playing?

<< Comment #133 @ 15:41 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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MikeHaggarKJ - Reply to #131

considering how noticeable negative accel was with the ie3.0 @ 500hz for me im assuming i do

Edited by MikeHaggarKJ at 15:41 CDT, 17 March 2010

<< Comment #130 @ 12:42 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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extaleR - Reply to #128

g1 has neg. accel. mx300 bestest of the best YO!

<< Comment #132 @ 14:22 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #128

the g1 has a tendency to give weird usb bz readings and refuses to go over 450hz. apart from that... i don't understand it either :)

<< Comment #134 @ 16:05 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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motive

i've been using mx series mice since forever (last few mice have been mx300, mx500, mx518, etc.) but i just got a deathadder 1800 the other day and it's awesome

it's really smooth and a comfortable fit in my hand. also it has pretty lights! could be placebo but it just `feels` a lot more responsive and accurate than my mx518, but in its defence it was really old so maybe it was just going digitally senile.

still getting used to new sensitivities and such but it was a great purchase.

<< Comment #136 @ 17:27 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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MikeHaggarKJ - Reply to #134

mx518 feels unresponsive when compared to alot of other mice forme aswell (regardless of polling rate). I think its because of the prediction, after all it has to do those calculations in the mouse before it sends them out to the computer.

i still use it though, its the only mouse with a high enough max perfect control speed that im comfortable with. the only others that have max perfect control speed as high or higher (that I know off) are mx300, mx500 and deathadder. but the da is to big for my clawgrip :(

Edited by MikeHaggarKJ at 17:32 CDT, 17 March 2010

<< Comment #137 @ 17:41 CDT, 17 March 2010 >>

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Vium

I know u all have been waiting for this information, so here it is.
I use ms 3.0@500hz. [the first edition]

NP don't mention it.

<< Comment #140 @ 09:56 CDT, 9 April 2010 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #137

i want to pay you.

<< Comment #145 @ 04:23 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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dontwantlifestopit

The mx500 was my favourite mouse ever. It had some extra weight compared to the other ones and it shape is astounding compared to the rest. I like BIG HEAVY mice with my BIG HANDS. lol.

<< Comment #146 @ 05:47 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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MikeHaggarKJ - Reply to #145

heavy mice are terrible wtf is wrong with you

<< Comment #147 @ 06:00 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #146

heavy mice need love too

<< Comment #148 @ 06:19 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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MikeHaggarKJ - Reply to #147

i took out the mousewheel of my g500 to make it lighter

<< Comment #149 @ 06:51 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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dontwantlifestopit - Reply to #146

people are different and have different preferences u know.

<< Comment #150 @ 09:58 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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Chance isn't using the Salmosa anyfrom (From what I saw from ESL Finals), seems he's using a white wmo 1.1.

<< Comment #151 @ 12:09 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #150

Where did you see this at? The list has changed a bit since I originally posted.

Edited by Lorfa at 12:09 CDT, 12 April 2010

<< Comment #152 @ 12:42 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #151

There's a picture or two of him playing a match on the ESL Finals Gallery, I'll find it when I get home.

<< Comment #153 @ 12:57 CDT, 12 April 2010 >>

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extaleR - Reply to #151

I saw him playing on iem finals. he used a white wmo on a qck mat. actually i know all mice/mousepads of players used in his group.

Edited by extaleR at 12:57 CDT, 12 April 2010

<< Comment #154 @ 02:16 CDT, 13 April 2010 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #153

I say spit it out son!

Edited by Lorfa at 02:17 CDT, 13 April 2010

<< Comment #155 @ 09:57 CDT, 13 April 2010 >>

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extaleR - Reply to #154

here we go:

Cooller: wmo + razer goliathus speed edition
rapha: wmo + ss qck sk edition
av3k: salmosa + razer goliathus speed edition
stermy: ime 3.0 (old version) + ss qck fnatic edition
Fan Zhibo: wmo + razer goliathus fragged (control?) edition
Chance: wmo + ss qck heavy

[+]?

Edited by extaleR at 09:59 CDT, 13 April 2010

<< Comment #156 @ 02:47 CDT, 14 April 2010 >>

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RonC - Reply to #151

http://esreality.hexus.net/?a=post&id=1849279

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