Errrm, it's White-Ra, not Whire-Ra.

soz thought i fixed it every time, my keyboard is a bit broken and rt are mixed up from time to time, i never know which letter comes out when i press ir :)

VODs plz!

will be online tomorrow as usual.

I like you!

/e: http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/21989 <3

watched it, already a lot of fun

are the commentators good?

they are decent, and HasuObs was playing live in the studio and commenting on the other games, but it was completely in german. That's why I didn't post a news before, thought the replays are more interesting than german casting.

ESL TV will look into english casters for RTS after Cebit and I'm pretty sure we will see some english SC2 shows pretty soon.

HIRE ARTOSIS AND TASTELESS NOW. You will thank me later D:

Artosis works in real progaming, and I'm pretty sure Tasteless will still be working at Gom. =P

Haven't you heard? GOM aren't be able to do any SC tournaments now because of some monopoly broadcasting rights shit with KeSPA being the money grubbing culprit that they are. Dunno about SC2 though.

Yes, old news. Gom have exclusive rights to SC2 right now.

Oh THAT I hadn't heard.

get 2GD off HoN and on starcraft tbh

afailk, he's already working on his SC2 skills. :)

yeah, why not let him cast EVERYTHING? You can't go wrong with this british man :)

Hire Artosis and Tasteless pls!!!

This. Or get chill and day[9] :P

THIS!!!!

hire klazart :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/klazartsc?blend=1&ob=4

day9 is the best

Was KaaZ well known in the SC1 community?
vods?

Yes he was. At least in Europe.

shame though that the first maphacks seem to have surfaced

Blizzard already knows about it, so I guess it's just a matter of time, I guess anti-cheat is no focus for a beta :)

The beta does not have Warden active (Blizzard's anticheat) so it's to be expected.

The good thing about SC2, like WoW, is that cheaters have to drop another $50 every time they get caught, and they will be caught.

is sc2 any good ?

new units & abilities are there only for kids & nerdz, or are they really useful ? I mean do they give something interesting to the gameplay (competitive gameplay) ?

Yes.

Ok.

:D

#care to elaborate ? Like giving some examples ;D

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1837854

"- Gameplay is impressively balanced. When it first came out, there were a LOT of complaints, but now that there are working builds, almost every "X IS OP" cry is gone. There are a few units that could use improvement, but there isn't anything that is really overpowered right now. It's actually impressive how balanced this is for a beta. The game itself feels very much like SC, but somewhat different. Overall, the speed of the game feels 25-50% faster than SC. =X"

hehe yeah, already read it. But you know, i would have prefered something like "this newunit is a good replacement for lurker, it's especially good against X, but can easily be contered by Y, and it adds something really interesting to the game, like blablaba"

;D

There are too many changes like that to go into without a full column.

2bad that casting was in german

what does korea think about the game ?

I wonder...

i heard Zerg are imba ,but only the winner is zerg,from watching replays its hard to tell for me,but all races feel strong

zerg feel a little bit stronger atm, but it's really hard to say, especially with tactics just starting to develope. I think protoss started today to develope anti tactics with phoenix air units supported by some basic ground units, but only time will tell.

Also the beta is going offline in like 2minutes and i guess they will patch some stuff.

yea,tactics just starting to develop,its a fun process to witness ,btw. do you know if a new patch means i have to find the new version of sc2 beta and uninstall the current one? jeez,hope not :)

starting the autopatching process, lol

! :)

Nah, P is just a tad strong (though the patch today may help). In platinum league, Protoss make up 60% of all players.

David Kim makes Zerg look better than it is, but mainly because he's been playing SC2 for the past 3 years.

hm,you might be right,lately i see T fail with medivec + ground ,about zerg ,ye sure david kim has been playin it for 3 years and with out being 1 up on expension its quite hard to win :)

someone fucked up the uploads, second match whitera vs zeerax in the first round is in fact hasu vs kaaz second map =/

Any Vod matches of Starcraft 2? Or shall I go youtubing?

...and what's been the general consensus so far with experienced players?

I can't find any SC2 vods with quality players playing serious games :(. You would think one would be out by now.

Yeah. No kidding. There must be some kind of restriction of some kind.

There are plenty of HD quality youtube VODs on TL. Look for players like louder, axslav, artosis, khb, psyonic_reaver, dayvie, etc..

Cool.

I remember lurking there last year in anticipation of Starcraft II. Haven't gone back since they delayed the game till 2010.

I don't know what I was believing but VODs are littered all over the place.

CowGoMoo vs Oversky are some of the newer ones posted today on youtube. All seven games.

Of course, I'm a CowGoMoo nutrider.

most really good players who are want to do this kind of stuff do live streams instead.

KaaZ only needed two map wins, due coming from Winner Bracket, while White-Ra needed three Map wins to win the tournament.

Err, wtf? Temporary rules for messing around in beta?

I've seen this in most of the few sc tournaments that use double elimination. I guess two bo5s is considered to take too long, so they just grant the guy in wb a map-win as a head start.

Shouldn't be using double elim in SC, though.

I'd like to see the argument for this universal rule.

Commentary was bad as per usual with those guys.. They can't stick to a naming theme seemingly (english/german names for the units), their tactical insight is pityful and - even tho they say they each played like 140-160 matches - i doubt any of them has played more than 10 or even bothered to test out all the races and/or units, get some proper info which units counter which, what they cost individually or what you need to build them... Really unprofessional imho... Only positive point I can see about them is that they're talking in german and that <10% of the viewers understand what they're saying so the humiliation is less global.

[+]

do you speak german?

Was going to ask the same thing :)

their badness transcends the mere barrier of language. :-[

i can also appreciate that if you aren't as skilled a player as tasteless/artosis/day9 etcetc, then the casting in general would be trivial and of low quality. in sc1 it was the same story with esl's commentators so i am going on that too. :)

in sc1 their ability as observers wasn't hot at all, they didn't shift f2f3f4 and they didn't use the arrow keys, always scrolling with the mouse making it look messy. they always missed the key timings of various plays where a korean observer or someone like artosis or tasteless wouldn't. as a viewer who can not understand german that's a pretty big deal to me because even if i do have somewhat of a clue, i'm being denied a lot of information because of their inability to observe.

one example of this being some ret idra game some time ago where there were drops going on. i can see it on the minimap! but they are just bumming around in rets main or watching idras stationary army etc.

they both have about 200 games and take has quite a high level, also hasuobs co-commentated, i guess he also has no clue about whatsoever? Of course it's not perfect and yes, they should learn the prizes and english unit names for everything and stick to it, but the game is out one week, so give them sometime, it's not that its like a IEM Finals after one year of sc2.

its not like they were any better at bw... if anything it was even worse then

VOD is online: http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/21989

sc is a great game (all blizzard games are) but so damn boring 2 watch...

not at pro lvl

;D

what, no way.

the last time i played sc was back in '98/99 yet i still love to watch sc vods. go have look at the averatec intel classic seasons at gomtv ( http://www.gomtv.net/videos/ ) for a start.

I personally find SC quite enjoyable to watch and that's even considering I've never played it myself.

scbw is at least spectatorfriendly... if you know the game and what unit does what
sc2 with its pumped up gfx is really bad for streams - at least with the quality free streams offer

OMG VEDIC!!!
YOU ALREADY KNOW BUT I HOPE YOU DON'T I HEARD THE JOKE TASTELESS MADE BUT THIS IS JUST TOO GOOD!!!

no wonder the turret costs no food, the guy is clearly having a stroke inside there.

I think he has tourettes.

Igeddit.

i dont really like the scale of sc2, it seems a bit wierd to me.

also, i dont find that it plays very elegantly, at least, not at this stage.

sc1 on the other hand is just gorgeous in how the matchups play out