broadcasters Jay "2GD" Harding and Joe Miller's comments about Slasher

Ah, yeah..din't expect it. Was really unprofessional, when 2gd called Slasher a cunt, especially before the final when most ppl were watching. (iirc)

Please not another stage drama. We had so many of those just these recent days.

Well, was he a sports shoutcaster he would lose his job :-)

Not aware of any sports shoutcaster who lost his job over mocking slasher yet.

Yea well this is just why 2good is not so good. Joe on the other hand can be seen obviously avoiding or reluctantly being drawn into really dodgy topics by 2good. 2good may have good insight from a players point of view but that doesn't mean he is the best man for the job, in fact i don't think he has much else going for him. I mean 2good telling Carmac it's ok to swear because it's stream B...! Carmac responding with: ah, erm.....

its called a sense of humor, feel free to take offense or dont

also, speaking of professional casters, someone feel free to ask wheat about a certain comment related to walter's mother

pretty sure he apologized for that though

Poor sense of humour, probably.

Unprofessional, certainly!

And i honestly don't think he realises the extent to which his words could affect others.

i just sprayed cum on you

I feel honoured

lolololol

i think your all taking him too seriously, i personally find him entertaining. if you think he's bad with joe, you should of seen some of the old wow coverage and the co-caster they had then.

Bring back Matt!

Less QQ, more pew pew.

please not bodi again :/
try and get yiska, he was at the event and has much more insight (he can't drop as many names as bodi can though).

For a while I didn't understand why people hate Slasher so much, but now that I see he didn't use proper timezone tags, I totally agree with all negative comments about him.

fixed!

what happened between 2gd and slasher? i didn't follow live esl stream

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1846987#pid1846987

i can't see any comment :E

I was called a cunt, dirty rat, 2GD signed off on the third day with "Fuck you Slasher", among other things during the event. I'll be giving my thoughts regarding everything today.

these words are crucial compliments here in germany. they are only allowed to use at weddings and funerals. so, you're right, but let this influence your argumentation

Wasnt it more like


Slash:I saved your asses on Wednesday,give me some props bitches !
2gd:it was a ddos attack,what could we have done?!
slash:i dont care,i saved your asses anyway
2gd:ok , FU slasher

my feeling on the whole situation ,2gd sure wasnt professional but your not a Saint slasher as well :)

that part is true, but only after their comments first! and to be fair, i -did- do a whole bunch of shit I shouldn't have had to be do the first few days

i cant imagine that 2gd's comments on you are serious. i think it was sarcasm/kidding. at least on the stream ive think so.

one question on lo3: maybe you can say something why dkt was choosen going to iem finals instead of calipt?

didn't follow the show completely, but did he answer your question?

Nope.

no no its true,you did good Wednesday,lots of folks appreciate the good work ,as do i ... all i was saying is that your choice of words sometimes don't help :)

:D

Looks like a mix between sylar from heroes(Zachary Quinto) and seth green on the last pic...

cunt? dirty rat? wtf i only heard the last one

lol the gordon ramsay of quake

lol the rod breslau of quake



oh wait...

well if there wasn't you on wednesday we could have been watching WoW the whole day without even knowing what the fuck was going on with quake.
thanks for getting up in the middle of the night and keep it up man!

This. Thx Slasher for trying to save what was possible on day 1.

you did a good job and i think 2gd was out of line

too bad I was at Cebit and couldn't watch the B stream, so I couldn't experience these comments

poor man :>

Yeah what happened between those two?

it was a joke, you idiots.

you dont too explain that it was joke, idiot.

you dont too explain is good

Cunt

dirty rat

2gd is alright but sometimes he's uninteresting, wrong or rather antagonistic. He got it wrong regarding Cooller talking about Rapha being better than him, when Cooller was clearly asked about Zero4. Then he babbles on about Av3k and Cooller as foes and not even shaking hands before the match.

2gd and Joe are still the best ql commentators out there,by a mile

the best insight and entertainment hands down

2GD spends too much time telling us what could have happened IF player X had performed action Y instead of what's happening on the screen right now...

do you have a problem with your eyesight or why do you need constant explanation for what's happening on the screen? thats the absolute worst way to commentate

^ ^

He said "too much time"

decisions by players are one of the more interesting things you can't 'see' instantly, I like to gather more from a caster than from the stream itself
yes I am a 2gd fanboi and like to suck his cock

basically what frs and t1e said..thats actually the most interesting thing about 2gd's commentary and what makes him a great QL caster.. because he doesn't babble about that great rocket you just saw on your screen and rather explains why certain situations happend and what will/could/should happen next.. he adds a whole another layer of insight into the stuff the players do

Wow, some regular Sherlocks here.

Never said it was bad per se. Yes, indeed it adds great insight to the commentary. All I am saying is that he spends too much time on it, sometimes across several other interesting situations and/or frags which are game changing.

not joe tbh. would love to see 2gd/wheat/slasher/ and good old redeye :)

i really like joe
it's a good pair imho
2gd with djwheat would be too messy both of them talk ALOT xD

and in some parts of the game i'd say joe is even better than jay

not in any part other then saying "he got the red armor" louder than jay, Joe explains what's going on on the screen, Jay explains what could happen/what they should be doing/what they did and why.

sometimes he does it REALLY too much

i like how he comment the game, but sometimes is ever too repetitive, he digress from what is happening too much
not always but maybe a 10-15% of times

that's why i like joe and jay commenting together

joe got a lot better though. maybe it's true and he's been playing duel recently.

They're the best English-speaking shoutcasters ESL got.

with all honesty and I never write to esreality (like my 3rd time) I gotta say that 2GOOD was the best shoutcaster I´ve ever heard on Quakelive and what keeps me watching the games they are passing on. His spirit and attitude commenting is just the best.
Of course he could keep some comments for him but I don´t really care since the quality of his shoutcasts are far better than any other shoutcaster there.
Also i truly believe he is one of the reasons most people are watching all Quakelive matches and being motivated with it cause he really does a good job.

Im not a 2GD fanboy, but i thank him for shoutcasting and i hope he doesnt quit since i dont see myself watching streams in future without such good commentary as his. It just motivates ppl to watch and makes sometimes shit games into good games, and thats what the audience wants.

Good job also to Jay who is a good partner.

Hope to see more from u both

Joe*

ye man,i agree completely

he is the av3k of professional esportcommentatoriationisming

Er, the focus should be on Rapha here, not this side stuff :P

If you have any questions, you can leave them in this thread

whats ur bf name

Yea but he's all modest, polite, professional, boring and all that stuff esreality has issues with.

ask rapha if he does visualization techniques and concentration/focus exercises .,.this is standard stuff in professional sports..golf,basketball you name it,everyone does it

I think he must be doing something like that because his mental toughness is amazing

so i wonder how much work he puts into the mental side of the game,does he perhaps do prayer or ask for guidance that helps him remain calm and at ease,...

would be interesting to know these things no?

drugs according to the movie FRAG D:

lol,i wouldnt be surprised to learn that americans are taking anti-anxiety pills,or whatever is popular in collage at the moment
so many drugs on the market there its scary

naaa
it was about professional players, if i'm not wrong, slasher said that

EDIT: and carmac too

xanax + adderall = RAPHA!

kidding, and drugs + quake tend to make me MUCH worse :(

i know your joking,but i wonder if anyone is taking this kind of stuff :)

It could be the next big drama in esports :)) Rapha "steroid" abuse,title stripped away ,given to cooller :P

... :))

Forever

o....zdravo

Kako ti,ševedno anarhija punk etc :P?

whaaaaaa words hurt me. yet again we come back to how we think about words. You control you're own feelings. If you choose to get pissy over what someone else says than go put a tampon in your pussy. You know what you can do, you can laugh at it.

Lemme ask a question who was the first person ever to come up with whats "professional" way to act. god society has created some bitch ass pussies. I knew this would happen as soon as woman got rights and gained power. Men lost their balls and now cry if they are pussy hurt.

I love how you moved from complaining about society into straight misogyny. :D

haha.

dont touch the twogood !

Hallo, Slasher is making be listen to this today.

of course.. he's hyping this with all sorts of drama he can find
i don't think he takes it seriously :D

anyway 2GD <3

i think this aswell ,
everyone love the drama

HAI

pls find better hosting thx.

not my trouble

: (

but it should be :(

Who's trouble then?

sujoy, weren't you on my razer boomslang tin with that same quote?

haha. busted!

Sujoy is making me to respond to this today.

I would have given you a shoutout.

You lost?

interesting how you didn't think it was worth it to attach a flag or real name to that slasher cunt guy

I say bring back warwitch :)

WHAM BAM SHAZZAM!

he seemed good at the time, but looking back he was so annoying.

yo stop the disrespect for WOW! :-D :-D

quake in pro circuit NOW FFS

2gd is the best shoutcaster I´ve ever heard on Quakelive and is definitely a reason why I watch these games. Slasher and co are zzz.

Props to 2gd and Joe!

ye they complicate each other nicely.
they divided their roles nice, think they say its play by play and analysis.

no offense to the other shoutcasters, they can be interesting when they comment on certain stuff(or doing interviews, telling story's, etc) but there actual knowledge whats going on in the game is very limited.

Yeah man !! 2gd and joe are a good combo ,i really enjoy their shoutcasting.
I find them very funny and insightful.
Think the only reason people wouldn't like them is if they didn't get them

Also making an appearance will be Justin Timberlake performing his new single Cry Me A River!

I didn't catch the live show, when can I expect the podcast to be archived on djwheat.tv?

Slasher, when shoutcasting there's a detail that imo you should work on: you tend to say "he does have" instead of "he has"... And this applies to every verb you use. "He does [verb]" should be used for emphasis, from time to time, for example when the action was unlikely, but not all the time. When player X grabs 25 health, you'll automatically say "Player X does pick up some health", instead of "Player X picks up some health" or "Player X is picking up some health"... I can understand using it if an item is disputed and Player X was not likely to get it, such as "Player X does pick up the megahealth despite Player Y's rocket spam", but otherwise it gets pretty annoying since you use it all the time. My two cents, maybe I'm the only one bothered by this but at times it was really annoying to me :p

LoL you need to get out more dude

agree with Naghokez, having graduated with many TV/R journalism majors...using "does" almost implies some preceding doubt about whether IN FACT he really has the red armor...and notice the "IN FACT" works almost like "does" or "actually" -- adverbs/intensifiers just weaken the verb and clutter the delivery.

General rule for fast-paced action reporting: describe in the most concise, terse, clipped fashion possible, which reflects the KIND of action happening, e.g., poker tournament commentators talk A LOT because hands develop slowly, whereas tennis commentating runs sparse during points, with minimal descriptions during ball breaks.

would be interesting to see how a tennis-like-commenting would work with ql

That's a nice reply, but why is it that your U.S sports commentators are put-my-foot-through-the-TV bad?

generally agree except for Bob Costas who's incredibly deft and intelligent...almost overly so, but just almost. Can call upon what the French call the "bon mot" at will.

not to mention his monotone voice and general lack of shoutcasting ability.

TO THE FACE!°

just been wondering, how did slasher "save the day" exactly? the way i remember it i was watching the stream with that german guy and then this annoying fucking voice comes on and actually RUINED the stream for me so i had to watch without sound.

you actually were able to watch something

yes but not because of slasher

the german guy was completely helpless. i doubt that he would have been able to find a single match to show

Joe has been commentating since the painkiller days. I still remember what a travesty it was to listen to Gabriel David aka Warwitch. Everytime Joe said something, I was like "Thank god, we have Joe!"

People can complain about how 2GD crosses the line but I think he just jests and while carmac was too busy preserving his voice for later, 2GD was the one carrying things on. I do think he's hyperactive but it helps in the worst situations.

I remember slasher calling carmac a douche on a live stream in a not so polite tone. Even though I'm sure he was kidding and carmac would've taken it sportingly, we're just blowing it all out of proportions. If you want professionals, go hire newsreaders ffs!

Is Warwitch involved with gaming in anyway these days?

2GD should concentrate on interesting things like omg nice shaft, did you see that rocket, he just picked up a red armor and that can only mean one thing, he just got 100 armor points more. Of course he should comment on every weapon, health and ammo pickup as well.

God forbid telling us what the players were thinking when making there decisions, i mean who does the guy think he is, some kind of duel hot shot? Better not get me started on the jokes, i like my commentary served like a dry martini.

FUCK YOU James "2GD" Harding, how dare you commenting games instead of the usual top notch german casters!!!!!!

LoL no way 2GD is the man!!!!!!! I think you are just jealous of his good looks and charm

His good looks are another problem, how the hell should i be able to concentrate when there is such a handsome young fella commentating!!!!!

You might want to insert an exclamation mark or period after "way".

Sarcasm on the internet, it's a bitch :(

I tried listening to esl.radio when slasher came in to "help" but the amount of "fucks" I heard within 5 mins really put me off and made me watch the CS group games. :'(

O btw Slasher you were abit of an asshole against the german guy hosting the esl.radio stream. Not very nice.

I liked that german caster- arkarius I think it is, but I'm not sure.

Of course I liked slasher too. The f-bombs just made me chuckle. I kept imagining how cool it would be to hear commentary like that for sports. Sportscasters are always real composed and everything, but you know if they're watching something at home they're letting it fly.

Some people don't care for the language and that's fine, but hearing someone cast the way that they would be talking about it if they were just watching it makes it more fun to me. Personally, I wouldn't want the casting TOO professional. You'd never hear someone on TV say "holy shit, did you see that? That was f-ing awesome!"

Totally agree. It's not that restricted in Germany watching sport commentaries. We can swear on television. But they still are more composed than they would be at home. Everyone watching a sport he likes should just say his thoughts out loud and it would be ZOMFGHOLYFUCKWHATDIDJUSTHAPPENGODFUCKINDAMN.

lol
=)

then he could go on ventrilo with some friends and say whatever he wants to
if you comment a game when thousands of people are watching, imho, you should moderate yourself

like carmac that must say that everything was great, when maybe he's the first to be pissed off for how ql has been treated

and 2gd aswell, you could clearly hear him on wow stream saying I want to see quake live, and the other commentator: "me too" rofl

That's coz Quake > WoW

I agree to a point about moderation. There's no reason whatsoever to be cursing every other word, but every now and then is fine (to me).

i didnt get why slasher wouldn't tell the german caster to "unbind all" when he was spamming shit beacuse of nVc's binds..

arkarius likes boys :P

Agreed, slasher was being an ass towards him sometimes. Arkarius was trying to do the best he could. Slasher should of cut him a little slack tbh.

are there any plans to make another coverage this year for evo and devastation? that was an amazing memory and i'm really looking forward to this summer.

After the last days on ESR, I don't think the Quake community deserves shoutcasting by ANYONE - Be it djWheat, 2GD or Slasher.





ps: But we deserve gtv!!!

why would the quake community not deserve shoutcasting?

Because sometimes I get the impression that it is just a nagging bunch of retards - and this being the top of retard-mountain.

€ maybe I should have replaced "Quake community" with "ESR - users"

nagging, yes.
retards maybe.

But its always been this way, no?

I agree on your last point - today I see more useless complaining about nonsense, which lead me to my (of course exaggerated) comment. I think those people who work hard to bring us entertaining coverage/and events should deserve a little more appreciation.

the things is, that it makes our approval if it does happen worth much more.

Unlike the "ooh"s and "aahh"s everything seems to get at sites like SK.

omg Slasher 2GD is an english man and what english mans do?

they do a stupid english jokes

ive compared 2GD to Jeremy Clarksons of quake some time earlier and thats how it is

just watch a top gear and see how they joking abour each other

Hammond this, Hammond that, Hammond is a hamster and even fuck off Hammond (beeped out)

just look at him... 100% ENGLISHNESS and his humor is also 100% ENGLISH and u shouldnt takie it any serious

I wish it wouldn't take so long before the podcast was available on RSS.

2gd - v. good shoutcaster (although i don't like some of his "jokes")
slasher - twat
esr - fucking nolifers

kthxbye.

you must come here often.

It's ok, your new it seems. The initial pain quietens down to a dull ache after a while.

great stuff by rapha

so, what did slasher have to say about 2gd?

ye that's basically only thing that interests me... at which minute it starts?

Out of the bunch I've heard last week djWHEAT is the one with a style interesting enough for me to enjoy an e-sports cast...for what it's worth. But it is clear that a sportscaster must be in control of his speech and not use gaming terminology sloppily. Even though he apparently did not know the word "disenchanted" (which is a shame; I am German and I know it), in terms of use of idioms that convey meaning directly and controlled use of speech, he is so far ahead of the slashers, 2goods etc. that it's not really a surprise that he seems to be the only one who has managed to have a weekly show.

In general calling someone a cunt or saying "Fuck you, ..." in a broadcast does not serve a purpose. and it does not help to promote the games. If you want to call it a joke, fine, but if it was a joke can only be up do the person who was at the receiving end of it.

LOL: About the guy who wanted to challenge wheat in WOW...sorry, but wow to you. how could you not realize that it's that kind of inbred nerdism that have made WOW enthusiasts the victim of an avalange of jokes in the past. Of course,liking WOW is not the joke - it's just as good as being a fan of QL or any other game - it's the overboarding seriousness of some gamers that is funny. The fact you mentioned the account of your fiancee was particularly clumsy as it insinuated that male gamers can only date other female gamers. I don't think you need anyone to tell you what will be the next "logical" step about your fiancee in many peoples's heads.

All these video-game things are so audience-unfriendly. How does anyone manage to follow anything? It is all so poorly arranged.

Semi-coherent, vaguely on topic...have you stopped taking your meds?

jonesy is fat

- rapha interview = pretty much repeating stuff he already said on the sk interview, nothing new here.

- some guys talking about wow and cs = boring

- a bit about tekken 6 vs sf4 = no thx

- slasher finally mentioning the insults couple of minutes before the end of the show without anyone commenting on it.


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