competition

possibilty of making servers+remove as random aspects as possible+tourneys with nice prizemoney

take your prize money and fo

money ruined quake

especially corporate money.. it spoiled the top players to the point they have no interest in the community or the game itself, they'll just play it to get some cash

Don't need to remove all random elements. It's random elements and how 'pro' players deal with these random events that separates the pro's from the better then average players

Case and point: Starcraft. So many random elements from mines and scarabs not going off etc. Adds more interest to the spectator.

Obviously though, don't just have a game with no consistency. Just, pick and chose which random parts are left in (spawn system for example)

ofc not every luck factor will be removed coz its impossible but i PERSONALLY think that .
ah also not 1 shot 1 kill games , there gotta be fight skillz and ofc different weapons that are best in their own ideal situation.

EDIT: an active mappers community that can bring new maps every couple of months :D

well they're buged but don't mines and scarabs act the same if in the same situation?

I think it's more that mines and scarabs follow weird rules which then looked bugged at times rather than true randomness. Pro players know the angles to shoot with reavers at to reduce bugging for example. It's only semi-random in that experience pays off with understanding outcomes, it is still pretty swingy and crazy at times.

vehicles.

you dont need anything besides a community who is willing to compete with what they got

I'm thinking towards the game being too much for the players to handle. Under this i mean that there is where to improve both physically (getting faster, doing more things at the same time etc) and mentally (allows to apply new strats etc) .

The other requirement for me is that the game can not be solved. There is no one way to win it. This winds with my previous point - for every tactic or strategy there is a counter tactic which may or may not be figured out yet.

Does QL meet these? Without new maps... so-so.

ironsights

Good physics, movement, momentum

cake

Pickups starting every 20min and a big community like in the old good times

no randomness

cooller.

More than 1 person who want to be the best.

Everything missing from QL makes a perfect competative game

for example:

Private servers
QTV
Maps
TDM features (lock team / normal timeouts / spec lock / coach spectator slots)

Depends what game you're looking to make. As in time period, style, gameplay etc

But basically, for any good FPS game you'd need:
- Dedi servers (nuff said. P2p is GHEY)

- Maps that are considered classic and/or the elements to make it classic (defining features, design, textures, whatever. de_dust2, dm6, crash, 2fort, whatever, are all maps that stick out in peoples mind for one reason or another)

- Active community (IE, ability to private server, out-of-game communication - forums etc)

- Decent graphics (by this, I don't mean, SUPAR-PREETYY-OMGITMAKESMEWANTTOCRYITSSOPRETTY graphics, but sharp definable graphics with models that stick out and are easily identifiable).

- Decent sounds (same as above. Easily definable. No gay music or ambient sounds - unless it adds to the map. Example: the jukebox in CS or L4D or map triggers (dogs barking, thunder-and-lightning etc) can add interesting elements to maps)

- Good movement/physics (nobody likes to trudge around getting stuck in walls and floors because the game is poorly optimized and/or has shitty movement/physics)

- Balance (nobody likes a game where you rush to a certain weapon, pown everyone and hump your victim's corpses because they stood ABSOLUTELY no chance. Obviously have tiers of weapons, but give the underdog at least a small chance)

- Ability to mod/community made maps etc (A game that can reinvent itself or have user made content increases longevity. Nobody likes to play the same maps over and over and over - OH HAI QUAKE LIVE)




TL;DR? - PRETTY COLOURS

i'd like to see more bloom.

Tru tru. Bloom makes a competitive game.

Specifically for QL:

qltv
new 5 maps every season (=year or quakecon as a start date). They don't have to be extremely good, balanced. I suppose it would be possible to select 5 maps from the contest pool which are at least mediocre. We just need pro players and tournaments organizers to follow this rule. The rule could be imposed by quakelive.com itself, for example, they declare that these five particular maps will be "to beat" - become champion of them and that's it. They could be announed after the "major" finals during the quakecon.

Then we wouldn't see the same 5 players competing for first prizes for 10 years.

To be honest, I never saw what was wrong with ca2 and t6 when they were being played. Sure they weren't perfect and favored some styles/weapons but I thought they were good to watch anyway

I don't like texture colors on ca2.

Guys you're all wrong! AGP recognition makes a competitive game.

jamerio

jonesy is fat

this is true

is jamerio fat ?

yes

fu 3 words !!!

'fu' isnt a word

unless its used like 'le fu', then its a word

3 isnt a word either

don't funny

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depth

chess

Achievements

Also, your popularity is 0%, have a plus for no other reason as to get you off 0%!

epic flying mounts.

shoes

lol didn't see[ed] ur comment before posting o_O

proper "five steps ahead" shoes in stores, now

The communities around the games devoting part of their lives to it no matter what. Best example TF2, best fucking community I've ever been part of. Unless it's CoD 4, CS and to some degree QL. Games which get loads of money and organized tournaments thrown at them without having to do shit, thus automatically growing the community and keeping it alive.

tears

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