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Later on http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/

So this clearly proves that wc3 players are far more skilled as sc players

I have beaten grubby and zerter in 2v2 in sc2, so quake players are clearly superior to wc3 players.

u were playing with some korean? :D

I can't argue against such overwhelming evidence

then i beat fazz, so commentators > everyone!

You've been dodging me for 1 month in 1v1 now. Come again when you dare to play me!!!!

sif nazgul actually plays SC

sadly the final was kinda boring

Can someone list all the top SC/WC3 players so we know what games to watch in SC2?

None of the SC players you see playing SC2 can be considered even close to the top of SC. Even players like ret struggle to get high in iccup (B+ highest, I believe), and are lightyears behind the korean pro scene.

Well, the best US and EU players are still good enough to be entertaining to watch. As for SC2, the Koreans don't have the same edge as they do in SC1 (yet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D54CKRHZzs&feature=related is a good game between one of the top 2v2 teams in WC3 vs two good SC1 players.

I don't know what games you've been watching, but even the finals in ZOTAC make me cringe. Hell, even the finals of TSL were forgettable, at best.

In this particular tournament I think the games between Lucifron and Dimaga were fun, quite creative play by Lucifron.


Game 1
http://www.mediafire.com/?zn3mzoyzim0

Game 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?iqm2klzzwv2

Game 3
http://www.mediafire.com/?gkm2jtmmyxt

Could you link me some replays of Korean play that has impressed you in SC2?

There aren't really many general korean replays in circulation, and none of any pro players.

Artosis has played against some pro players but none of the games I've watched have been that interesting.

But if there arent many replays of decent koreans in circulation, you have to watch the top EU and NA players, regardless of if they are better or not.

Artosis played against moon, but he's not a SC player.

He played against several pro gamers. Check out his replay pack, there was a post somewhere on TL which goes into detail of who some of the players are.

I'd say the only creative play was in the last game. Watching dimaga open in the same way every time was just meh (guess there's a reason why he did that tho). Not complaining on you pasting those replays, just the general standard of sc2 games if those strats were considered creative. I mean, dimaga didn't even have any clue about what was happening in game 3, he just went with the same strat that he did in every game, no matter what luci was doing. Kinda disappointed tbh :( Or am i missing something crucial?

Game 1: Mass Hellions with drops
Game 2: Fast Banshee and fast Expansion
Game 3: Mass vikings with cliff abusing

Of course, generally speaking it is very rare for all games in a series to be creative, however, Lucifron showed some interesting plays in all of them, especially the first and last game.

So until SC2 matures, it's not really worth watching any of these?

It's still fun to see it evolve (like the new ZvZ anti-roach build that DJPulse used in ZOTAC today), but just don't expect to see pro-quality games. =P

Tbh, I probably wouldn't know the difference between pro and amateur. I don't watch that much SC, just whatever games are supposedly really good.

its very obvious in both micro and macro,trust me,watch a few games and you will notice the skill level difference quickly :)=

I wouldn't recommend watching the finals, as they werent that interesting.