interesting

keel/bright- Green, yellow xhair... but been trying to find a better color combo. Sometimes the darker color crosshairs don't work so well for me if on a "darker" map. I could make a crosshair toggle, but cba...unless somehow this thread gives me reason to.

red/cyan/blue/white stick out best on green IMO, it's just a matter of preference.

Pretty sure bright green is one of the easiest colors for a human eye to spot.

idk, years ago someone posted a reaction time thing, but i did it in different colours and from what i remember almost everyone got better reaction times with blue.

I used green/blue for ages but now im back on pure green

[citation needed] for your comments about the studies. I couldn't find anything either, so I'm not actually serious.

Anyways, in the ferrari example, and in other examples, you may be looking at the response of the eyes to a colour on a constant background. This is not the case in Quake.

I believe that the main issue you should worry about with regards to your crosshair and model colour is the discrimination between the two colours. While green and yellow, for model and crosshair respectively, seem to be the norm for most players, they may not be the best discrimination in colours. I'll note a few points about this and let you draw your own conclusions.

The first issue I'll tackle is colour blindness. Green/red is definitely out for a good number of people, as a good number of people are colour blind to one extent or another. [edit: This would mean that, to a certain extent, green/yellow may also be a bit more difficult to distinguish due to the closeness of yellow to red on the spectrum.] Blue/yellow is the other form of colour blindness, although it is much rarer than green/red [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness]. Keeping this in mind, one can see the advantage of a blue model and a yellow crosshair as even colour blind people tend to retain blue/yellow discrimination, and as already said, most people are a little colour blind.

You can easily switch blue model, yellow crosshair for blue crosshair, yellow model, of course.

The second issue is having an appropriate crosshair or model that will be visible and not easily 'lost' on every map. With a yellow crosshair, I sometimes find that I lose visibility of it on maps such as T9, which tend to be brighter overall. This would certainly be a factor in wanting to switch to, for example, yellow model, blue crosshair.

Lastly, another thing that one might keep in mind is which colours are actually the easiest to differentiate. This is more difficult to figure out, and a quick google search shows only one helpful chart based on what excel chooses as colours for a graph. [google "easy colours to tell apart"]. It seems that excel chooses red and blue, which is a well known pair of colours from team gaming history.

To conclude, it seems like trying blue model/yellow crosshair or blue crosshair/yellow model may help a player if they find it more difficult to distinguish the standard green/yellow, or if the player notices that they 'lose' the crosshair while playing.

[edit: One possibility that I forgot to add is that, if your brain works this way, it may be preferable to have a matching crosshair and model. This could be advantageous if your brain prefers to match colours instead of differentiating them. ie. when you don't see your crosshair, you fire.]

By Drexciyian - Reply to #4
idk, years ago someone posted a reaction time thing, but i did it in different colours and from what i remember almost everyone got better reaction times with blue.

One problem I always had in tf2 was losing my crosshair. I tried several colors, I made it huge, I changed the shape, but either it was filling my screen or I was always getting this little 'hitch' where my eyes looked for the xhair but couldn't find it. Drove me nuts.

Never could figure out what was causing it... and not once have I had this problem in quake.

I think the real problem is that in TF2, there's no concievable bright crosshair colour that you could use that isn't already used in the game, on models or the environment. While that may not cause others problems, it did for you.

I think you were done in by the artistic choice of Valve, tbh.

That's what I thought at first, but there is one exception. You never see bright green.

Unfortunately you do see bright everything else so it blends in anyway. I think the actual problem might not be the range of colors so much as the range of brightness in those colors.

Yes, that is what I meant. I apologize for not being clearer. By artistic choice, I meant that Valve chose cel-shading which is bright and cartoony.

The crosshair probably only seems light blue b/c of "cg_crosshairhitcolor".

The best graphic settings I've seen are stermys, dark with bright white models.

I use cyan keels and I'm bad. So odds are switching to that setup isnt going to help you.

On an unrelated topic, that map + 200/100 + all weapons + respawn = awesome QuakeLive fun

I can has map?

http://www.boon-clan.de/downloads/QL_CA_Maps_v3.zip

egd title m8 bl

Years ago I used QQQQ for the enemies, a yellow cross hair and high gamma.

Been trying to replicate that look ever since but nothing ever looks right ;/

Q1:

they mentioned that much of the onboard equipment in the cars such as gear change lights, switches, various other steering wheel components and cockpit things are being switched from the common red colour to light blue because they did 'scientific tests' that showed that the 'human eye is more receptive to the colour blue' (I use quotation marks because that's what they said not me to avoid someone going off on one :P).

Q2:

[askasamurai]Round here, we prefer white.
It brings out the colour in our eyes.[/askasamurai]

:) Hahaha :)

http://askaninja.com/news/2006/03/07/ask-a-samurai
Don't blame me for the absence of the video in question, read what's written by that other guy; that comic writing below where the video was previously embedded.

:) Hahaha :)

I tell you, this place (ESR) really could do with smilies, I could have put a laughing smilie there each time I put "Hahaha" instead :[


P.S.

That's a quote from the video that used to be there, for those that don't realise it.

Did anyone back it up? :(


P.P.S.

Also, for those that don't bother to read URLs or tags (some might refer to "tags" as "markups" instead), the video in question was called Ask A Samurai and was inspired by the other video series which the URL links to the site of (though, as far as I know, the site of that video series was YouTube at the time that the Ask A Samurai video was made, rather than the site that I linked to above :) ) (Cause that series quite infamously started on YouTube and quite established on YouTube before the makers of said series started their own site to make money from the whole thing. Many people have written "sellout" or words to such effect in comments all over YouTube and on the website of said series itself.). Yeah I omitted to mention the name of the series, you should find out the name of the series yourself :) You are not supposed to talk about it really, that spoils the fun, doesn/'t it? :)

Yes, I know the above paragraph is long-winded, but the progression, or some might say digression, of said site - and people's reaction on the internet to it - is long-winded. :)

No, really it is :) I'm sure some other people have been following its progression with some interest and know aswell :) Like I said, no-one really talks about it cause that's part of the fun of it, the mystique about it all :)

Yeah, I know it's a joke, but still, there is a mystique about it :) There was more mystique about it before it became so commercial. It's generally accepted that that spoiled the mystique of it all pretty much :) I mean, there was pretty much no mystique left to spoil once it became commercial. Still it is fun :)



tl;dr: You don't have to read P.S.s or P.P.S.s!

They are writing _after_ writing, script that is _post_ script. They are Post Script. A P.P.S. is a Post Post Script, writing _after_ writing that is after writing.

People used to use P.S.s and P.P.S.s a lot; people don't use them so much now, especially on the internet, where people write stuff quickly, knowing they can add another message later and/or edit-in anything longer. Of course, P.S.s and P.P.S.s still have their use on the internet, which is a bit like when people put an "Edit:" add-on to their text at the end, except they have not actually edited their message. Who knows, maybe they went to get some fresh air before adding more to their message, not everyone sits at their computer until they have finished writing a whole message :)
Or maybe; they re-read their message (as you do) before posting it, and decided to add more to it before doing so :) Just like me. :) See, what I had written before was pretty final :) The P.S. and P.P.S are just that "little bit extra" and then just that "little bit extra" more :) Which is basically what P.S.s and P.P.S.s are :)

I know my P.P.S. is very long, but that is how people have always done P.P.S.s and P.S.s :) Cause someone who decides to write "extra", writes as much as they want :)


Btw, my crosshair colour is secret :)

wat

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1896527#pid1896527

I can see why you are called "zealot", cause you are one. You are a zealot.

i'm not called like that i choose the nick you dumbass.

wat

I'm not telling you my crosshair colour, but I have a lot to say that is semi-related to what you posted as your topic :)

What I wrote is more interesting than spamming "wat" as replies, even if that spam is in a threaded reply to your own topic. I suggest you read what I wrote instead of spamming :) I'm not interested in an "in-joke" that involves so much spam. No in-joke is that funny :)

no, what you wrote is page full of garbage.

every 12-13 year old around here knows what p. s. stands for and how it's used. why post it in a thread about quake if not to annoy us all?

why post it in a thread about quake if not to annoy us all?

Cause it's a P.S....

what you wrote is page full of garbage

Did you miss the bit about the samurai? That was the actual script.

suddenly not feeling that smart anymore, huh?

skins and crosshair color is chosen in relation to how the map is colored. if we'd play maps that were mainly green no one would be using green skins.

almost everyone i know plays with bright green skins and yellow crosshairs, or in some cases: green/blue skins as you said.

keel light green
crosshair 2 size 32 yellow, hitcolor cyan

You win.

bright green upper/bright pink lower, white square for crosshair
http://i27.tinypic.com/efez2q.jpg

Green crosshair on green tankjr.

When my crosshair disappears i click fire.

xD

Light blue + crosshair on green keel.

When I see my crosshair on the model, I click fire.

you can change crosshair color?! LOL