the nickname tool sure suits you well

ROFL!

I'm a tool? Do you even know what a tool is? Let me save you the trip to google and copy it for you.

"a person who is controlled by others and is used to perform unpleasant or dishonest tasks for someone else"

I'm controlling myself, for my own actions, which I think in this case were as honest as can be. If anything, id is the tool here. Trying to scam hundreds of thousands of bills off of customers worldwide.

Rethink your strategy buddy.

thought it was just one of them crap replacement words used on daytime soaps

This tool_ kid aka prry_ and many other aliases is just some 1.16n scrubs from noghost where all the hacker rejects go that get banned from 1.32 q3. He also runs http://veloxql.tk/ clan you know the clan that sits in a server and votes kicks anyone who joins while they "stat pad" because they can't win legit.

They care about stats? lol

And you are?

I wouldn't worry so much. It's been out for a while now and just under 300 people have actually bought pro accounts. No doubt it'll increase but not my huge numbers I'd say.


Honestly, if they make it monthly they'd be fine. Or even 3-monthly... But annually is just anally

I'm going to update if you want it or not.

i guess most of europe is missing

oh, and where's you get that number?

im relove..btw i reposted what you said

awesome. since i cant clear my cookies and tehrefore logout of the QL forums, i have to proxy to read anything. but its not worth it anymore; i might make a post in 3 days when my ban is up, because its really important, but i wont be playing QL, paying for QL, or posting on the forums. goodbye 2000 posts, you will be missed :'(

also im gonna stop helping people with wolfcam, and stop uploading videos of QL stuff. im strictly Q3 now... which is why i really needed to post a thread on the QL forums: i need to pass on my work to ba5tard... i should have backed up my post but whatever. im not experienced enough to do shit like that (i prolly would do that now though)...

newayz, like raythenoob says it: gg

you guys should make out

if you don't wanna pay or don't think it's worth it, fine... go back to q3 and stfu..

.

Yep, not sure if i really need pro though..

.

that sounds painful

why did you get plussed for this?!?

cuz this forum is full of QL-loving sheep. baaahh

it is not, 99% of all people here are disappointed with ql but if it fails, quake is dead

Same reasoning that has us in Iraq/Afghanistan. It's a lost cause.

no

So when the game dies in a few months, how are you going to justify this?

then i tried my best ;)
i really think that besides all its flaws, ql is only way we can have competitive quake community in the future

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1933516#pid1933516

stop doing loops on esr, this is a forum not a programming language you can't even specify an exit condition

break

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face

face

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CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC-COMBO BREAKER

thats too early :[

Yea, I figured :(

earlier the better.

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

combo broken by a pink leotard prancing Nazi, jeez they must've been training alot over there :P

lol'd

How do we find out who bought what?

THERE'S AN AWARD!!!

yeah but it doesn't say how many who got it like in the other awards, do know an other way to find out?

im just posting this cuz tool_ is too lazy to make an account. i got banned too though, and my thread was deleted like 10 times (it was a legit thread; iD just hates me).

their attitude is fucked up, and this release is terrible. the forums are proof: when i saw teh site, i rushed to general discussion to complain about how terrible everythng was. then it got worse, with the new forum layout and all that shit...

ANY forum admin will ban you for starting the same thread 10 times.

Exactly my thought.

my thread was legit... mostly. if they cant take some complaints, why have a game? i was complaining a little bit in my legit thread, so they deleted it. they let tools thread stay open for a few minutes, prolly because they forgot about it.

I hope you were hardware banned. Seriously. How do people become so fucking retarded? Is your life really so shit you cant pay 2 euro a month for something you do all the fucking time?

how do these losers even learn to read/write....

what?

lol had to post anonymously quick ESR trolls connect him to someone like u did with TTT

ok. you = kittenignition = TTT = plenty of other accounts

you are trolling yourself.

this is awesome... lets see


i am triad, sunny25, qu4kezer0, tool_... this also means that im micr0n and jjz/jjz2 right? this is funny. who do i get to be next?

You can be The world
aww cant post a vid

i would rather be someone like cypher or strenx?

also... fail

you tell me

i am you now. MINDFREAK!

brb coding aimbot! :F

i can haz?

No john, you are the aimbots!

john? i thought i was ian?

who? I dunno I just observe.

why won't you get it over with and admit I'm right?! I see right through your shenanigans why do you even make it so obvious it's like you want to get caught and punished right??? (well I won't punish anyone but you want that right?)

i thought triad = ian axelrod? who the hell called any of my other dudez john?

http://fanfictionredux.ytmnd.com/

no one is forcing you to pay. You get EVERYTHING that you already had before today's update for free anyway just not the new maps.

You deserved to be banned, cry elsewhere like on esreality.

no one is forcing me to play... have you even played QL today? 15 second ads before you connect to any server (even practice matches. thats right), with a nice, big text saying, "dont like watching these ads? skip them by buying PREMIUM!"... shit like that. i cant connect to a friends private server; he has to send me a private invite, and he can only invite 3 people. etc. etc.

also ice gibs are q3 gibs, but painted white... kinda stupid imo.

and, one more thing: this isnt my post. a friend wrote it and im putting it here as a favor, because i agree with everything he said.

Yes I have played today, I've played quite a few games. I decided to pay as well.

have fun wasting your money and time. you can say its preference or something, but theres a limit. let me know when iD fucks you over enough for you to quit (unless youre stupid enough to stick with QL until the end)... if you quit before 12 months are over, then i get an "i told you so"... and you also lose whatever money you paid but didnt get anything from

I'll have fun, I've already been having fun for the past 2 years when it was free. Now that you have to pay a measly $25 for new maps, content, features and other various functions you are really hurt. Doesn't hurt me as we still have plenty of people playing here in Australia across different mods in Quake Live as well as great sites like http://www.4seasonsgaming.com who run competitions for fun!

well good for you. have fun on dm6 all day... ill be playing hundreds/thousands of defrag maps that are released every day for free. q3 hasnt cost me a single penny... and its 10x what QL is. so thats fair.

Well good for you, I'll be having fun on all the new maps that have come out for QL with actual people instead of being a nigel no friends on defrag by yourself.

actually, ill be able to play these maps too... in about 3 hours. in defrag, cpma, ra3, etc. etc. with whoever i want... in a better game. a much better game...

Cool! I'll be playing new maps in a populated game, currently q3 has no one playing it where as quake live has a lot more. By no one I mean not a single person, not 4 or 5.

hahaha... youre funny...

and you're fucking fail.

Really, why would other people's decision be so important to you?
If you don't like the update, don't pay/play for it, but stop pestering everyone else about it.

No one gives a shit what you decide to do and no one will be doing a decision based on your posts.

no u! :D

ive changed my mind a bit, and people can pay all they want; i wont try to stop them anymore, but i wont agree. i wont be pestering all you idiots anymore, but i still dont like you ;)

dude, im gonna pay aswell

iD really screwed up with this update, and i find it weird how it was supposed to be free browser game and they changed it, thus killing off the game in 12 months time (doubt many new people will join, doubt that many people will convert and doubt there will be any new deathmatch games out, consoles is where it's at for games publishers to make the money).

Sad thing is, I'll buy premium too :c

hahahahahahahahahaha

Have fun spending money to play a game.

Have fun spending money to play a game.

that's the idea

Long gone are the days of buy once, play endlessly.

YOU BUY NOW!!








....AND DEN LAYTUH, TOO!!

lmao

"w that you have to pay a measly $25 for new maps, content"

oh you mean like the already free ra3 and osp maps? wow how did I skip on that amazing offer? world class idiot.

or maybe the maps, that people simply assume are copied, yet not a single person could tell me from where the were copied.

But wait, you're tourist, god of assumptions. Carry on, then.

for a guy who doesn't even play quake you sure know a lot.

feel free to tell me where all those maps come from, since you must know more.

oh sry I get it now.. your point was actually so stupid that it slipped trough my filter somehow. what you're saying is that it's not actually the good old ra3/osp maps that are worth 25 dollars, but the few random new ones. how did I miss on that amazing offer?

You mean the new ones that everyone has been demanding forever, but haven't tried. Yet you can call them bad anyway? cause you're tourist who does not need any basis for his opinion.
Yes, those.

But please don't let me stop you from ranting, you're so good at it.

oh becksie.... see what happens when you don't read? please be so kind to point where I called them bad. ty

well, and as always the finer points of language escape you.
Once you find out the difference between "can" and "do" in the context of a question, you can contact me.

so long,

after reading that all I can say is, by all means sir, go pay 25$ for random maps.

Maybe you should stick to playing that, because I'm sure you'll find people to play that whenever you want. Fact is people are playing Quake Live and people aren't playing ra3,cpma or osp. I'd rather be playing in an active scene then having to spend an hour of asking around in irc or whatever to play ra3/cpma.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1933204

He's from Australia.

Land of shitty internet and maybe 100 people who actually play QuakeLive.

Enough said.

I'll be playing on my 15 ms connection with plenty of people to play. I have no problem paying $25 for the hours of entertainment I get. You probably argue with every person about paying money for a service. Perhaps if you can't afford the $25 get a job first or stick with playing cpma/ra3, I hear a lot of people play it.

The anger here is hilarious. Seems like somebody's upset that they spent money on an inferior game and will have to again just to play random noobs.

I'm not upset, I'm quite happy with this new update :D
Just didn't realise $25 is that big of a problem for you. All good, as long as we have fun with whatever we play.
No one here plays cpma/ra3 anyway.

this thread delivered.

Ralph u good men))) i like u plz to be troll more)) Also Austria guy is cunt, he make rage))) PLZ TO BE PUNCH HIM IN DICK

Wow, 7 people playing. You really showed me!

hehe not everyone is so poor that wasting 25$ or 48$ is a big deal at all. if 48$ is wasting money to u then u must get out and get a job or something.

I mean you people prolly spend 48 on more wasteful shit every week than something like quake.

nothing is more wasteful than QL. i once paid a dude to kick me in the balls... $50. was a better commitment than QL

ohh soo unwise.

how much does it cost you for a premium kick in the balls.
lol :P

$20. you up for it?

lol, i'm sure you can find someone to kick you in the cojones for free :P

nah not around here...

Fu i'll do it.

Anything for someone who share the same shady pre-nick as me

lolwut?

I Shady`AK

WHAt ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF MAPLE LEAF CUNT? :@

It has been like this for a while already...

There is a difference between negative feedback and just shit talking trolling.

Grow up.

you wont say this again in 1 year xD

I envy you for your glass sphere. Hope it works out for you.

Anf if OPs life progress stagnates further Im pretty sure I can rely on the 'grow up' line for many years.

Oh, and meanwhile I have fun with QL and Q3. Funny me... o_0

"The reason you pay up front is simple, once id has your $48, they don't have to deal with you for a whole year"

of fucking course but i dont rly care

u re not here to save us poor sheep from beein raped by bad money making company

for me the game is great as it is and the changes can only make it worse and i can pay this amount its rly not that much

if u re between 20-30 u probably spend more weekly on cigarettes or if u dont smoke u spend twice as much in the clubs during the weekend so why in the world not to pay this 50$ or whatever to keep a game alive?

fucking tshirt costs more and its shit after a few washings

u failed at trying to be smart man

its obvious that id want to sell something to us and make as much money on it as it can without much effort but thats how it is

THIS IS BUSINESS KID

u only mad cos its not u whos geting money from the players and u re geting paid shit money obviously

make your own company than discuss sucha things cos now u re just a worthless shit

I failed at trying to be smart, yet you have the grammar and spelling of a 2nd grader.

I'm not mad that I'm not making money off of Quake Live, in fact, I'm sort of happy. I wouldn't want to be part of a company that has easily one of the worst customer support systems I've ever known. I'm not mad at all really, just sort of surprised that instead of debating with me on the issues I called them out on, they do childish acts like deleting threads as if they were never posted and banning forum users as if they never existed.

no company with any intelligence would start debating about posts like yours.
It's not purely an attack littered with assumptions.

If they started replying to shit like that, literally thousands of equally biased posts would pop up and also demand being replied, too. On the other hand I have the impression you like yourself way too much in the romantic role of fighting against the money-hungry establishment, that you wouldn't let yourself be convinced by anything they write.

So it would basically mean a crapload of work without benfit. And that would mean even less time spent on actually working on the game.

english isnt my native language and my point still stands

u think u re some kind of a jesus that was fucking crucified there by bad id ppl just to save all the fellow players all around the world from wasting money

while u re just another attention whore who grown up on the wave of whines

u ren othing special and what u say is nothing special

actually its sociologlicly right that u exist and behave in this particular way

you don't speak american? obviously your fault...

;D

½*[+]

What I don't understand is the fact that Quake Live is mainly for free, and in fact, most of the maps can still be played for free. If you really want to pay the other maps and get some extra features, then do it. Actually, you do not need to update to pro - premium gives you access to all maps but you cannot spawn a server. So it is actually 12x2$... I mean, come on, is that too much to ask for?

Sure, you may argue that Q3's content is for free but ID pays for the server, its infrastructure etc. ID want to make QL popular as much as you want to hate because they demand money. You think every thing in life should be for free? (not only in terms of money) I guess you won't come a long way with this particular attitude.

"There is a difference between negative feedback and just shit talking trolling.

Grow up." INDEED.

And also: Violating someone's forum with the utmost bullshittalk is not really the way to go. You could have reasonably and maybe even eloquently expressed your doubts etc. and then maybe someone would have given you a proper answer. But this way you are not going to get very far.

There will always be hate. And you are the reason why.

STFU retard.

I have stopped playing 5 months now, but I might pay because I owe this money to id for the time I had fun while it was free. So, I will consider it.

Paying for a half-assed Q3 will always be retarded.

thinking that remaking a game like Q3 into web is easy, is retarded.

and yes they did many things wrong, but QL is a great concept and its website is also great.

But you have to pay to play new maps, that fucking sucks. I understand the private servers issue and so on, but please. Also, no LAN practice, so small local tournaments will ignore this game forever, because is a pain in the ass to set up. Rip

So if you were in id software's position, how exactly would you arrange paying AFTERWARDS?

I sure hope you're not employed in business.

well, they could allow different time periods. for example $3/5$ for a month and $8/$15 for three months.

that would also be a good alternative for people who don't play continuously throughout the year.

Suppose I'm a recreational player who has just discovered QL.

I play for a month Premium. After that, I don't like the game anymore and I go play something else.

I decide not to pay. How will id software get their money?

I'd say, they will get $3 more than they get with their current solution.

How is that possible when I haven't made a payment yet?

I don't get your question.

OP is bashing the payment up front.

My original post states (as an alternative) payment AFTER receiving the service, in this case a premium account of 1 or 3 months.

If I would then make use of the service and in the end decide to not pay, id software won't receive a penny.

What are they going to do then? Send me an invoice? Get a lawyer? :)

Their choice to go for a payment in advance is completely logical and understandable.

oh, I'm sorry.

I meant my proposition to be an alternative to paying afterwards. dind't make that clear, I'm afraid. :(

ah ok, yes that's a good idea.

For people who don't play continuously throughout the year, this may also be another alternative:

For example I pay 1$ up front and this allows me to play 10 hours of QL without ads and with all the premium content. These 10 hours can be used the way I want: all in one day, or spread over a year.

If the 10 hours are over, I get the choice between continuing free ad-supported OR buying more hours.

good point.

this quote sums up why I dislike your friend's post:

Simple fact, it didn't.

Really? A fact?
Did take part in one of id's staff meetings, or can he look into the future?

imagine if he were to write:
"Simple assumption, it didn't"
How stupid would that sound lol

"I don't think so" might work ;)

Hard to rage and whine on the basis of an assumption

true :/

Heroes of Newerth was free for a long time, then they released the retail copy, and they still keep updating and patching the game, why wouldnt this happen in quake live? Quake live was an OPEN FUCKING BETA aswell, stop being stupid.

But HoN is DOTA clone, omg omg, why would I pay for something thats old, omg!

just imagine, if quakelive were crashing nearly as much as HoN is

quakelive is all copy of old game and hon is ALL NEW OBVIOOUSLY

hon also has new maps!

GO OUTSIDE, CANADA

you should've waited another 5 months for that trick to maybe work

one more time: i didnt write that. the dude is from the US: tehtool or whatever his esr name is, that he made so he could use me as a flame shield...

Honestly, I would ban you as well. That post is not the truth as you pretend, it's rather a set of speculations not even well thoughts. And the way it's written turns it into a rant rather than feedback. What is the goal of that? What do you expect to obtain?

almost all speculation about ql has come true ;)

Retard.

lol, you're an idiot

You are so dumb, you are really dumb, for real.

wow u have 3742 frags can i add u to friends on ql?


ups i forget u r banned hiih

:D

ahh kittenignition, protecting poor customers by spamming a forum

learn to read dude. i didnt write it.

also, im starting to feel a little differently. i understand iD's position, and i can see the many reasons they did everything they did, but theres still so much wrong with everything...

Firstly: annual billing. You all can see how many people got enraged when they saw annual billing, even for such a small price. If they made it monthly, a LOT of those people would have paid. They might not have made as much money at once, but pretty close, and more in the future because monthly > annually.

Second: The way it was released. For people not involved in the community (who cares, I just play), it must have been a pretty big shock. There wasn't really any warning... iD never once said anything about new maps, or pro/premium, or annual billing, or a site layout change, or cleaning out the forums, or all the stuff they did after those ~30 hours of downtime. They're going out of BETA! you'd think SOMEWHERE there would be a 100% complete list of ALL the changes made. But no... The best thing you can find is that Bethesda Blog, and it's not even complete.

Third: The map system. People wanted an easier-to-remember map system. I know that a lot of people were complaining about the map codes being too hard to memorize blah blah blah, so hundreds of people wrote i the "suggestions" forum ways to make both people happy (by both i mean people who like the codes, and people who cant memorize the codes), but they completely raped the system. First they changed all the map names, second they changed all the .pk3/.bsp names (have you guys LOOKED in your /baseq3/ folder since the update?), third they dont allow "qzdm6". it doesnt exist anymore. This is actually one of the worst parts of this change imo, since I'm not in the mood to memorize a whole new map list when I just finished memorizing pretty much every map's code.

Fourth: ...Ads? You have to sit through a 10-15 second ad before every game, including practice matches. There are BILLBOARDS in EVERY map for god's sake! WHY would they need ads playing before every match? Oh right... What it says under them: "Don't want to sit through this advertisement before you play? BUY PREMIUM [here]". Every "bad" thing they've done since coming out of beta is just trying to pressure you into buying pro/premium. Sure, they need money, and they need to "advertise" their p2p offers, but seriously... RUINING the free game to do that? As far as they're concerned, if you don't pay, you don't matter and practically don't have a right to have fun playing QL.

Fifth: The standard accounts... You can't join a match a friend is in if it's freezetag or on a new map, no matter how you do it. He has to invite you, and even then he can only invite 3 people. I'm not 100% sure how it works but I assume that there can be a total of 3 non-pro users in the server at once, and unlimited pro users... Which I guess is fair, in a way, but come on... We asked for new maps, so they sell them to us. And their "frequent game updates" or whatever thats only a pro/premium feature... That's gonna be new maps, bug fixes, cool tweaks etc. etc. while only MAJOR bugs will be fixed for free users... But I played ftag on a couple of the maps and its really, really fun. It's actually better than Q3's Ftag imo, but not by much.


Anyway, I can't think of much more stuff to whine about. Those are some pretty major problems, and iD could have made QL perfect if they wanted to, because every single one of us knows that iD can make a perfect game. Or at least as close to perfect as possible. I don't know how the tiers work because _everything_ was reset except your stats (you don't have tiers anymore, and you need to play a while to get tiers afaik), so people 10x as good as you can be "below your skill" since you have played more than them.

One more thing: I have officially quit QL. I might log in every month or so, go frag a noob, see whats happening and leave so my account doesn't get deleted, but I'm done with it. I'm helping my friend convert all the new maps, along with the frequent releases of "new" maps, so it'll be fun and interesting... If anyone is even remotely interested in playing the QL maps in Q3/CPMA, IM me and i can send you an ip (in the US) ;D

gg, iD, you could have done so much more with QL...

I thought there were no idiots neither poor people in canada, it seems I were wrong in both assuminations..

i always thought finland was more like winland... i guess i was wrong about that huh?

"Firstly: annual billing. You all can see how many people got enraged when they saw annual billing, even for such a small price. If they made it monthly, a LOT of those people would have paid. They might not have made as much money at once, but pretty close, and more in the future because monthly > annually."

Oh look, ANOTHER person that DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS OVER THE INTERNET WORK

If it was monthly, ID would have to pay out the ass for CC fees, making the game 4x as expensive if we paid monthly (aka paying $12 a month for the game)

ok, then how do all those other sites have monthly billing? most sites you can subscribe to have monthly, yearly and bi-yearly billing or something like that. explain please?

What kind of sites are you talking about exactly?

i dont know. most sites have monthly subscriptions

in all honesty the only sites I can think of is porn...

lol. well whatever sites they are, it doesnt matter. doesnt megaupload or whatever have monthly billing?

13 year old detected.

i dun care, i dun pay

1v1 hub cpma?

We can play for free, frand.

sounds geat man

So they get money from advertising, people paying for a year upfront (with a rolling contract?) and they are understaffed.

So that's take take with less to pay out!

id really fucked up. They may not know it yet but they have.

i would pay any amount of money for hub alone :) and while your worst case scenario is not that far fetched, it still is assumption. i guess the guys at id know better what they are going to do in the future with QL and thus deleting the posts.

edit: remember before replying (and this goes for all posts in this thread)

"and, one more thing: this isnt my post. a friend wrote it and im putting it here as a favor, because i agree with everything he said. "

stfu about this not being your post. might as well be IF YOU AGREE ON EVERYTHING :))))))))))))

hitler said fuck the jews and i agree with him BUT DIDINTNT SAYED THAT

the QL hub is kinda terrible though... it seems like it was throw together in 5 minutes or something. crappy lighting, for one. it looks so terrible imo, and should stay in cpma

and i agree with it but its not my post. so what?

why you have to separate yourself from the post by repeating it's not yours?

cuz people think its mine

what difference does it make if you agree on everything?

its not mine. thats what

nice loophole you have found to avoid any criticism :)

edit: can't see anywhere that people said it's your post when you state that it's not

a lot of people assume its my post, so they start to trash talk me... i agree with what he said but now how he said it.

now you're not even making any sense

"im just posting this cuz tool_ is too lazy to make an account. i got banned too though, and my thread was deleted like 10 times"

that pretty much means you are as retarded as tool

not really. i got a bad rep for being a dumbass before, and i posted a legit thread, and the mods hate me so they deleted it because i said i was quitting QL cuz it failed.

just fuck yourself, your just concentrating on negatives and trying to find ways to shit on quake live...

just stop caring and FUCK OFF already

the positives are all in quake 3, and all the negatives are only in QL. so yeah... theres nothing else to concentrate on is there?

I want a betting fixture for:

1. the next awesome update will on next tuesday (usal updateday)
2. the next awesome update will in 2 weeks because of quakecon
3. the next awesome update will take up to 1 year

If I would pay I would expect an update at least every month but in my opinion it will be exact the slow pace of updating like we are used to be.

ESR needs to start a 'Hater of the year' award. Should be a tough competition, prolly have more nominees than QL players too.

raythenoob wins. hands down.

Im holding off to hear some feedback on the content first

if its basiccly paying for a map pack then hell no

butt well see

whos butt?!??

erscotch

<@DarkangelUK> banned from #quakelive.. wonder if i can get banned from the forums as well..
<emir4nt> ?banned for?
<@DarkangelUK> posting links to download ra3map11 and freezetag for Q3 ¬_¬



rofl.

just say you dont like QL, and youll get banned. not that hard :D

It's pretty interesting how there were lots of positive comments with guys that had 0 to 5 posts only at the forums.

Obvious id creating accounts for fake positive feedback is obvious.

what´s your take on 9/11 then?

or just NEW players joining the game due to the marketing and additional media surrounding the update....

QL coming out of beta attracted a lot of attention, and a lot of new people joined. those are the ones spamming the forums with positive shit. although, iD and forum mods have made fake accounts to compliment themselves, i doubt they did that here.

The people defending QL on the QL forums just havent been around long enough to see what exactly iD has done to the game, and over how long of a period of time etc. etc.

id

they're all Carmack, obv

Everyone's postcount got reset...

and there are a ton of new faces.

copy/paste from Pornfish from the forums you linked

"Yearly billing is retarded; I get it and I'm with you in that respect; but you were banned for being a dick and with fair reason.

Here's what the company is doing:

FREE: You get THIS.
PAY $1: You get a year of THIS.
PAY $3: You get a year of THIS.

That's it, buy it or don't: if you're willing to pay for what they're offering, pay for it; if you aren't, don't. If in the future they update the game, consider it a bonus. If to you the game is worth paying 48 bucks now, why wouldn't the same game be worth it a month from now just because they didn't update? They're telling you what exactly you get for your money, either it's worth it or not, no need to go into the forums and be a dick about it, especially when the issue has already been deleted/dealt with."

And he's spot on.
/I'm one of the people waiting for a month to month to sign up for automatic billing, like my other website subscriptions.

i agree that he was being a bit of a dick with the way he put his argument forth (kinda), but i also agree with his arguments themselves. tool is known to be an asshole most of the time so its nothing new, really.

no, Tool is known for being a badass band with the greatest drummer since Neil Peart.
This tool you're referring to isn't known at all, much less known for anything in particular, such as being "an asshole most of the time".

the people who know him know him as an asshole, is what i meant.

You know, they really are smart if you think about it. A friend invited me to play on his private server, obviously he bought a pro account whereas I refuse to pay for it and just have a free account.

Sure enough, I could not join his server. Only 2 people were on the server (including the paying friend and another premium account member) yet I would constantly get the 'Maximum number of non-premium members reached.'

So what's a nig to do? Try again, of course. Watching the same 13 second ad 6 times sure makes for a great experience. Hope id enjoys their ad profits.

Just use the ad script man. They can suck a bag of dicks if they think they are going to get away with it.

does FF adblock work on the pre-game video ads on QL?

No. Use the GreaseMonkey script and support the creator so he can update it as fast as possible when id fucks it up again.

kthx.

Been puttin off FF & Greasemonkey for awhile now, but if for nothing else than QL I'll go dl it.

wich script is that?

You could probably block it fairly easily using noscript.

Obviously, id has become fully communist... banning the simplest of freedoms - free-speech. Probably why this community of communists and socialists are so devoted. Perpetual poverty? No problem, 'cause mother will provide.

Obviously, id has become fully communist... banning the simplest of freedoms - free-speech. Probably why this community of communists and socialists are so devoted. Perpetual poverty? No problem, 'cause mother will provide.

double post fail.

theyre just being selfish: they dont want any negative attention or w/e on QL on their first day out of beta, so they ban anyone who says anything bad.

I like how they removed the number of people counter for the Pro/Premium awards after one day just so you couldn't see how many people have bought an account.

TROLOLOLOL!

17 ?

whiney faggot alert.

Anyone who can't afford to pay $1.99 a month to enjoy what is obviously one of your favorite games, we don't want you in the community.

I'm glad ID is banning all the whiney bitchey jobless kids. Please keep it up ID, these are the people that ruin quake, not you.

Combat Arms is still free, go play that.

READ:

id, please rape my ass. I've bought your game 10 years ago and would appreciate it if you re-released a subpar version of it. Please rape my wallet for $23/$48 every year while you fuck me over cause I just love it.

rape your wallet? how poor are you? now tell me ralph do you like quake? do you want tournaments to watch? do you want to play death match games? DM games is dieing breed and if QL where to shut down tomorrow we wouldn't have much to play or tournaments to watch now would we? and if your answer is to go back to the empty Q3 servers and if you still are naive to think that if QL wasn't here Q3 would get all the tournaments then fine go play q3.

I'll let them 'rape' my wallet for 43$ once a year (which is what i spend on beer every Saturday on the pub) just to support QL because i want it to stay alive as long as possible.i mean it's fkn pocket money.

why did reply to ralph like he isn't a complete retard?

schizophrenic, also:

if QL where to shut down tomorrow we would have much to play or tournaments to watch now would we?

CPM would be popular again!

is there really alot of CPM players who play QL?

yes

A person who can afford a PC cannot afford a game? Are you serious? Money's not even the point with these cats. It's what they're getting in return for it that matters and is the point of conflict.

They're on about paying for shit when nothing is actually new, and rather re-structured old content. If it's all about keeping the game alive, go ahead and help organize tournaments with a sponsor in place with bigger prize purse than what is currently being given out. Difficult, right? But that's what WILL keep it alive.

Devs come into the picture to either incorporate things initially or to fix issues like spawns, hitboxes, loading times, netcode etc. The beauty of it all being - by doing that, they're not doing you a favor but rather putting in stuff that should've been in the game in the first place. It's like making a game with bugs and then charging you money to repair those issues.All of a sudden, you have a horde of people feeling for the devs, as if they were starving before pro and premium existed?

Calling someone poor and blaming them for not paying 1.99 a month or some other amount is convenient and weak. Even though the majority was pissed by id's move to go paid and insert ads n stuff, they've sold themselves short of what's still an unfulfilled promise.

interesting comment. i agree.

also id just like to say... my PC was free ;)

so what you're really saying is the pc isn't yours but your parents?

no, im saying it was made from spare parts. my parents would never buy me a PC :/

hey cyn1c this is actually -oNu-Chr0n1c just for fun I was googling clan oNu looking to hunt down some old members I lost touch with and in the top 10 I saw posts by you from years ago on various forums about it.

Do you play quake live? Make sure you add me if you do I am now known as the all powerful flog.

ps. <3 kitten

OMFG!!! I was so hooked to dev1ance back in the day man. It's so good to see you :) I really hope Slack X is still around?

ArC, oNu, eRA, CoC, eM, UE, H$, Z1, VZX, FF....1.16n is like 2nd family. I'll add you up dude. Btw, eM Hol also plays QL. I'll ask him to add you up too.

woah... someone <3'd me!

*sniff* so touching...

My sincerest condolences.