hm, it seemed that he really underestimated werdum's ground game. he got sloppy and got outplayed. gg werdum.

i doubt that the rematch would look the same.

spoilers, u faggot :>

but i couldnt resist clicking this thread :/

old news

gif plx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1N23qOTqZo&am..._embedded#

cool review of the submission

i hated both of them since second # 12

why?

I know two gay guys in a gym when I see them
...

what?

This has already been gone over ad nauseum on every other site with an interest in MMA so I'll briefly summarize my thoughts:

-Werdum is the best HW BJJ practitioner since Nogueria fell off and Mir decided he could stand on his feet with guys who outmatch him in striking.
-Werdum didn't take the Dos Santos fight seriously enough/underestimated him and paid the price for it, but for that and the UFC fucking him moneywise on his contract he'd have been in the mix for top contender.
-Fedor made an uncharacteristic mistake. Every other time you've seen him in that kind of a position he's doing his classic GnP and the guy on the bottom is just trying to stay alive. This time around he constantly kept his arm in instead of pulling it out. It's MMA nobody goes forever without the combination of getting caught and/or making a costly error.
-Getting subbed and getting knocked out are two vastly different things in terms of how you can come back. This loss only affects Fedor's record IMO. He's still the same guy he was before.
-Fedor is still the most watchable fighter in all of MMA and it's not close IMO. Guy finishes fights and his style is interesting enough I'd watch him fight pretty much anyone.
-Hopefully they do Fedor-Werdum rematch and then assuming Fedor doesn't sign with the UFC, still seems highly unlikely he will to me, then if Fedor wins we can get the Overeem-Fedor matchup still if a new SF contract is signed.

is MMA and UFC "basically" the same format just different organizations and preventing people from participating in the other league?

MMA is the sport, UFC is an organization

CPM is the gametype, CPMA is a mod

where are you getting at? didn't really get that comparison

edit: or i didn't understand what he's asking

he just gave another example

crap example if you ask me

Yeah. UFC has exclusivity on its fighters, mainly cos of how huge they are and not wanting any chance of ruining any draw a fighter might have if he went and lost a fight elsewhere.

StrikeForce is much less stable than the UFC and has far fewer fighters and especially quality fighters. They lend and borrow fighters with other organizations fairly frequently so they can still make up decent cards. The current SF HW champion even fights in K1 kickboxing.

Yeah, ufc is lame. It would better if MMA did things like in boxing, where there are different belts; wbo, wbc, etc... and if good enough, a fighter could win them all. It wouldn't take much of a change, only a business-cooperation. UFC belt, SF belt, Dream belt, Sengoku... well, there are a lot of them, but in time, obviously, it would become more condensed.

MMA does have the Saku belt.

:D

UFC follows the aristocratic model. If you're not born into the royal family, you are excluded. It's the very thing the United States declared independence from, but because the settlers came from England, they sometimes become like their ancestors and attempt to restore such a shit system upon us all.

IMO it happened a long time ago vs Arona, who man raped him. Arona was robbed in that fight :(

Fedor's ground game has always been suspect, but you have to remember this, he's always fought in a ring against the best on the ground up until now. Part of the reason why he lost vs Werdum was because of the cage.

Fedor's ground game has always been suspect

Nogueira in the prime of his life, as the best HW BJJ, didn't seem to enjoy it too much, nor his girlfriend who openly wept as Fedor beat the lifeforce out of the guy twice.

you mean the japanese chick who is in all the "fedor beating the living fuck out of nog" movies? always wondered who she was.

as Fedor beat the lifeforce out of the guy twice.

lol sif nogueira felt a thing. he can take 10x more than he did vs fedor and walk away.

he was pulling the same moves he always does, it's just that fedor got away from submissions and armbars with pure strength.

Nog's grappling skills = overrated. He's never won anything of significance. Like an ADCC or a major BJJ competition.

Also, if Nog & Fedor had fought in cage instead of a ring things may have turned out differently.

to beat the champion you must be a lot better, not slightly better. same applies to boxing.

Complete shit.

All it takes is sucker punch and anyone can go down. Anyone can get lucky given enough time.

Unless you're streets ahead of someone the difference between most can be made up with luck given enough time.

Complete shit.

All it takes is sucker punch and anyone can go down. Anyone can get lucky given enough time.

right? so imagine the superiority of fedor in his 10 years reign.

to beat the champion you must be a lot better, not slightly better.

yeah, WHEN it goes down to decision ^^, you welsh ape

I agree with u about Arona vs Fedor, but in "Pride´s last era" (2005-2006) or even today, Fedor will destroy him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdPKL1aAzn4

> all.

Lol at 0:45.

lol i aint seen that

now i am going to have to

:D

One of the best cheesey martial arts movies of all time, it like they let a 12 yr old child make his own movie and its so bad it does a full circle and becomes great in its own way.

The rest sucked though. A rare gem!

rofl, maybe you are not as useless as the popular notion goes.

Given your definition of "useful" is posting a clip to a martial art film, I take it as compliment some lonely douche bag like you thinks I'm useless.

Have another game of quake and download another torrent. Roffles.

imo fedor was in visible decline in his last 2, 3 fights. if rogers just would have went forward in their fight, it could have gone bad for fedor as well

well, it was surprising that fedor has kept up this well after more than 10 years of fighting. at some point, everyone loses his fire, so there is absolutely no blame to him

plus, i think he is still the fighter that poses the most threats to HWs of any physical traits, style and skill, so all around he is still #1 in my book

fedor is the god of mma. this was bound to happen, sooner or later.

as the gracies said, the triangle start was a coincidence, but werdum did a good job in keeping his calm and not panicking while fedor was up.

anyway, if the rematch takes place, i expect fedor winning within first 3 minutes.

fedor is lucky cooller doesnt compete in mma

fedor? muito lá em recife faz um fedor do caralho, só vocę vendo.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2wm4712.gif

this is what happened. true story.

Brock > *

obvious troll is obvious

although he seems to be putting a lot of work to it, but still probably will never be nothing more then a really fast and strong wrestler

:)

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Loving the guy for his dedication. If he beats Velasquez, dos Santos will be no match for him. Who's gonna stop the guy really?
I mean, what does it take to put the guys lights out?

You put Cain higher than JDS?

Well, I do think that Brock is just keeping the belt warm for Dos Santos. JDS will not gas out from roiding like Carwin did and has much more crisp stand up than him. Besides JDS seems to be the only one more dedicated then Brock - a saw a video where they said he sleeps, he eats, and he trains (not surprisingly - his wife is ugly as fuck - would do anything to be outside of my house in his situation)

love JDS but I don't think he's got enough firepower to knock brock out (that is before brock stuffs him into the fence and beats him to a pulp)

I picture Brock smothering JDS with wrestling. Cain and Carwin (if he fixes his lactic acidosis problem) are the only UFC HWs with a real chance of beating Brock right now imo.

agreed. JDS couldn't put Nelson away and Brock's got in muscle what Nelson's got in fat + some.

well see randy vs brock fight - even randy could make brock dissie, brock's chin is quiet weak, think what JDS could do.

Cain although hits a lot doesn't have as much power as JDS. And maybe JDS didn't put Big Country down - but that is a one hard mofo (even though he is fat). But after that fight you can see that JDS is able to intelligently spear his batters for the whole length of the fight, and will not gas out like Carwin did after 30 punches.

you tripping, Randy never gave Brock any trouble in stand up and if Brock survived the pounding that Carwin gave him in r1 then he can endure pretty much anything.

this.
also Cro-Cop :/.

seems he couldn't survive Cain, bye bye Brock

Yeah, I do. Striking seems to be JDS only weapon. Haven't seen much of him though?

When I think of JDS right now, I imagine him on the ground with Brock and it's not a pretty picture.

We'll see how Brock performs tonight. Gonna watch it live, I guess.

watching atm too bad these filler fuckers take ages to kill.

can you watch it on ufclive.com in hrvatska?

no idea, not watching that.

It's free in Germany on there, since Bavaria's nazi government banned it on tv because of it's inhumanity (lol).

And that was that. :(

I'M sure he's gonna get the title again tho. This was again due to his lack of experience.

This was again due to his lack of experience.

What has the experience of having his head beat in twice given him? Aside from at the very least mild brain damage of course.

Well, I'm just saying. With 10+ more fights against high class opponents, he would've been able to recover from the first couple of shots. We've seen how good it can work against Carwin.

Anyway, Brock is the only one who makes me watch HW MMA, so I hope he will come back and grab that title once again.

I still think JDS is no match for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHtxPew5Os :D

disagree. he'll have trouble with JDS and he's gonna get owned by Carwin if Carwin can last more than a round. he's got nothing on Cain whatsoever.

JDS is not only a good boxer. He's intelligent, can spear his gas, pick his shots and has a really awesome takedown defense

did he died?

twice

edit: and then he ran away

Can someone explain the fascination nerds have with this sport?

People just like seeing other people get beat up I guess?

Personally, I grew up playing and watching all the traditional American sports like baseball, basketball and football. I still watch them occasionally but the interest has definitely waned and the redundancy of the regular season doesn't help.

I see fighting, or in this case MMA, as the purest form of competition. You really can't break it down any further and it is the ultimate ego check. If a guy slam dunks over you in a basketball game, or jukes and scores a touchdown on you in a football game or even destroys you in a Quake duel you can always fall back on the "well I'd beat his ass if we ever got in a real fight".

It doesn't really work the other way around. Nobody ever gets their ass beat in a fight then says "well I'd own you in a Quake duel, or I'd slam dunk this basketball over you".

Sports and competition all kind of boil down to man trying to dominate another man and the definitive endpoint of it all is fighting.

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That's why one day there was PRIDE.

Martial Arts is just really awesome. Just watch guys like BJ Penn, Anderson Silva or Georges St. Pierre to understand the fascination.

you mean fighting sports, not martial arts.

Well, partly. Sure, a lot of the UFC guys are nothing more than fighters (Koscheck), but GSP e.g. is a real artist at what he does and that's what I find fascinating.

fedor went too cocky there and got punished nothing special happened rly

after first few punches he was like "omg another ez win for meh lets end this shit quick"

but then

he seriousd