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New sensor ! (45 comments)
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Posted by h0rst @ 19:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 - iMsg
http://www.avagotech.com/pages/en/navigation_...dns-3090/#

sounds good
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<< Comment #1 @ 21:52 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>
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By United States of America study 
1800 or 3500 cpi selectable resolution. :(
<< Comment #2 @ 00:41 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By United States of America illwill_  - Reply to #1
If that is the case then this sensor is garbage
<< Comment #3 @ 01:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By United Kingdom ZeritoN 
brb just need to go and make a shit to give them in reward for their crap sensor
<< Comment #4 @ 07:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst 
come on guys. dpi is no problem. you can just change the ingame mouse speed.
this sensor could be the best when there is no angle snaping -.-
Edited by h0rst at 09:55 CDT, 9 October 2010
<< Comment #7 @ 11:28 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #4
one commonly used setup at 400 dpi (sens 4/acc 0.1) translates to approx. sens 0.8889 acc 0.00495 at 1800dpi.

let's not even get started with 3600dpi, do you see the issue?
<< Comment #8 @ 11:42 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst  - Reply to #7
sorry
i didnt get it
<< Comment #9 @ 11:50 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #8
hm... some games forbid sens below 1 (namely cs), those players are fucked.

everyone using accel will be super annoyed at trying to find the 'right' value when it's somewhere between 0.004871 and 0.004752... atleast i wouldn't get a mouse with this sensor for that very reason.
<< Comment #11 @ 12:18 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst  - Reply to #9
one could lower windows sensitivity and customize accel.
<< Comment #12 @ 12:59 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #11
... and run into all kinds of problems. windows sens should _really_ be left at the default 6/11.
Edited by zealot at 13:01 CDT, 9 October 2010
<< Comment #14 @ 13:08 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst  - Reply to #12
no problems when using markcs mousefix
<< Comment #15 @ 13:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #14
you mean this?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1846538

But I don't use the middle 6/11 pointer speed setting?

If you want exact 1-to-1 in-game response when the pointer speed slider is not in the 6/11 position, or you have a custom display DPI, see the MarkC Mouse Fix Builder, which works for Windows 7, Vista and XP.
For those older games that turn acceleration on, it gives the same response as position 6/11 does (1-to-1), without having to move the pointer speed slider to 6/11.
The MarkC Windows 7 + Vista + XP Mouse Acceleration Fix Builder
http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/04/m...ilder.html


yeah, ok :) i cba to do that, just wanted to point out that the move to forcing dpi values of 1800 or greater is a mistake in my eyes. your mileage may vary.
Edited by zealot at 13:40 CDT, 9 October 2010
<< Comment #17 @ 13:53 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst  - Reply to #15
yes i mean this
<< Comment #16 @ 13:45 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #14
i just realized you signed up today and every one of your five comments is in this thread about the "new sensor". therefore i will stop arguing with you, it makes little sense as you seem to have a fixed opinion already.

ein schelm wer sich böses denkt... :p
<< Comment #20 @ 14:14 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By B2L - Barrysworld boenk  - Reply to #16
zu spät :D
<< Comment #27 @ 15:26 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By badys tshirt Badb0y  - Reply to #16
ein horst eben :P
<< Comment #32 @ 09:14 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst  - Reply to #16
there is nothing to argue.
the sensor is good !
<< Comment #37 @ 01:35 CDT, 19 October 2010 >>
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By 005 flowrush  - Reply to #12
Run into what problems?
<< Comment #38 @ 06:22 CDT, 19 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #37
please use the search function, cba :/
<< Comment #10 @ 12:03 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju  - Reply to #9
0.05% of the players that play cs are aware of that problem.
<< Comment #13 @ 13:00 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #10
maybe, for example your config wouldn't be possible in cs :) no m_pitch change and no sens below 1.
<< Comment #18 @ 13:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju  - Reply to #13
well, i have sens 3.5, no yaw/pitch change and accel 0.01 so im actually fine :)
<< Comment #19 @ 14:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #18
because you are already using 1800dpi? you're well below sens 1 if that is 400 btw. but who cares, it's just something i wouldn't like to have.
Edited by zealot at 14:02 CDT, 9 October 2010
<< Comment #22 @ 14:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju  - Reply to #19
I actually dont know :/ I don't know what the default dpi of the mx518 (without any drivers installed!)

It is definitely not 400 dpi.
<< Comment #25 @ 14:45 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By sadflag douille  - Reply to #22
It's 800 if you don't use the + and - buttons in front and behind the wheel. They switch the dpi between 400,800,1800, and the mouse starts with a 800 default every boot without drivers.
<< Comment #28 @ 16:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju  - Reply to #25
so how high would the sens be with 1800dpi?
<< Comment #29 @ 20:39 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #28
http://phoon.us/mouse/
6%
<< Comment #36 @ 01:34 CDT, 19 October 2010 >>
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By 005 flowrush  - Reply to #29
Awesome link, haven't seen that before.
<< Comment #39 @ 06:59 CDT, 19 October 2010 >>
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By PerpetualWar PerpetualWar  - Reply to #29
very nice :D
<< Comment #31 @ 05:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>
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By sadflag douille  - Reply to #28
I thought you knew that already, maybe this post is useless but : DPI and sensitivity are proportional. So it would be about twice as fast (eg you would need to divide your sensitivity by 800/1800 to get the same sensitivity).
But I wouldn't do that, maybe it's a placebo but 2 different DPI with the same adjusted sensitivity (same rotation / distance) don't feel equivalent, and I prefer the low DPI feeling.
<< Comment #5 @ 08:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Sweden [StarCroW] 
The info I got about this sensor is that you can use it with IR instead of LED and change angle snapping on/off, configure liftoff distance and a new way to update the firmware.
<< Comment #6 @ 09:49 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst 
wow
u know a mouse that will have this sensor ?
<< Comment #24 @ 14:44 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By inuyasha7 SenT!neL  - Reply to #6
whats so special about this sensor?
<< Comment #30 @ 21:43 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By United States of America study  - Reply to #24
Nothing.
<< Comment #21 @ 14:14 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By B2L - Barrysworld boenk 
i wonder why ppl always think that higher dpi equals better aim ..
<< Comment #23 @ 14:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By Quake 3 ischju  - Reply to #21
It's imho what the casual fanboy gamer thinks when he hears pros playing with 3 trillion dpi.
<< Comment #26 @ 15:04 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>
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By B2L - Barrysworld boenk  - Reply to #23
ah so when i go and buy one of those pro gaming devices i don't get better just because i bought it? :D
<< Comment #33 @ 09:43 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>
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By Finland LuGia 
Worthless. (too tired to write proper argument.)

Another potentially good thing ruined by stupid shit... this happens ALL the time... :(
Edited by LuGia at 09:44 CDT, 13 October 2010
<< Comment #34 @ 13:03 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>
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By Germany h0rst  - Reply to #33
what is ruined by stupid shit ?
<< Comment #35 @ 01:33 CDT, 19 October 2010 >>
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By 005 flowrush  - Reply to #33
I think others would appreciate it if you bothered to explain why...
<< Comment #40 @ 14:45 CST, 25 November 2010 >>
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By Germany Anonymous (87.168.195.8) 
any mouse announced that will have this sensor ?
<< Comment #41 @ 14:13 CST, 4 December 2010 >>
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By Germany Anonymous (87.168.229.212) 
bump
<< Comment #42 @ 14:27 CST, 4 December 2010 >>
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By Quake 3 (black) crea* 
I have to post in this thread!
<< Comment #43 @ 17:56 CST, 4 December 2010 >>
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By djogedj h8m3 
why is this so hyped here, i wouldnt want the mouse with 1800dpi minimum
<< Comment #44 @ 18:19 CST, 4 December 2010 >>
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By ezQuake f0cus 
If I switched to 120hz lcd, then I'd be getting 120hz at 1680x1050 I'd get a mouse that uses this. Right now I use 400dpi, and 800x600 @ 120hz, so this IME 3.0 @ 500hz is fine.
Assuming the mouse that gets this is comparatively ergonomic for my hand shape/size to my current mouse.
<< Comment #45 @ 16:01 CST, 6 December 2010 >>
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By Finland Anonymous (88.112.8.94) 
trlolol

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