used it 7 years ago or smth, switched to mx300 -> g3 -> g1, can't say the shape is any different tbh :F, dunno about the hz

would an mx518 sensor fit in that thing cause I would stick that sensor right in there
if it did

Fits. You have to cut alot of shit, but it fits. I modded my g3 with an mx518 sensor. Was tight but eventually it worked. Won ASUS 2K8 summer with that :D

May I please have some pictures? cause i found one of those logitech wheel mice in a store and it interested me cause I like the shape

http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/gallery/871/

thanks but is the internal shell excluding the sensor the same as the G3 in the wheel mousew

Well its the same where it matters. Size wise its identical. The difference is only in the clips for the top shell. And considering ou have to cut a shit load of stuff to fit the 518 in, including some bits of the 518 main board, the differences dont really matter much.

and where those plastic sticks in the shell for the mouse buttons inthe g3 before hand or did you pull them off the 518?

I had to cut and glue them from the mx518

what tools did you use and glue?

this would be my first time trying to move a sensor

thanks in advance :)

Okay, since its your first time, I have to warn you, its a hell of a lot of work and fiddling to get everything right.

Best would be if you had a dremel.
If not, knives would have to suffice.

A chissel would be awesome to have.
Luckly for me i have a dremel and a swiss army knife with alot of things.

A drill bit to cu a new hole for the screw.

Some scrap plastic.

Epoxy 2 compount glue. This allows you to sitck stuff that isnt exactly a perfect fit. Plus this can fill gaps and what not.

Supeglue. This you need to stick plastic that actually fits together.

Now the best way of actually doing it.

Since the mx 518 logical board comes in two pieces, you have to first fit the board with switches.

As the wheel mechanism is the same on the logitech mx518, g1 g3 mx300 and logi wmo, you have to have that as your starting point. Its important to note, that the height of the board mounting has to be very exact, so that all the switches are exactly horizontal and that the wheel continues to register rotation. Perfect alignment can take a couple of hours to a couple of days to get right. Your aim here is to make sure that the buttons click properly, the wheel button clicks properly and the wheel registers rotation.

After you have chopped, filed and built with epoxy a resting place for the board, its time to fix it. Use parts from the doner mouse and stick the plastic nuts to the new mouse floor with epoxy or superglue. The plastic nuts are the bits where the holding screwes of the board go into.

Assemble the mouse together and check that everything works. Buttons click etc.

Now its time to put in the sensor board. You will immidiately notice that its far to large to fit in properly keeping the original top and bottom screw placement. This screw will have to move elsewhere, but thats a different story.

Now place the board as close as possible to the buttons board. You will see that the sensor hole dont match, so you need to drill or cut out a new hole for the sensor. trim both the case and board to insure a fit inside the case. Here its immportant to note, that when trimmingthe logi board, dont cut any connections. Only the silicone around them. Placement is not to critical here. Height can vary a bit, as well as exact position, since the sensor has lod bydefault of several millimitres, so itsdifficult to screw this up.

Fix the board to the chassis as with the button board.

Now on the gallery which i showed you i had not yet made a screw to close the two halves of the mouse together. I used a wire, but at a later date i updated thedesign. Heres what i did.

Take a PCI slot case bracket and make cut it so that its roughtly 2-3 cm long. make two holes at two ends. The diamitre should be big enough for the normal screw to screw into, but small enoughso that the thred catches the edges. Bend it in the middle, so that 1 hole can be fixed to the upper shell screw hole, and the lower hole faces towards the very end of the mouse. Drill a hole in the shell so that you can screw the halves together.

I will try to get you a picturelater on when i'm at home.

But before you start, note this: NOTHING FITS. absolutely nothing, and you will have to do a really big job to make sure everything works in the end.

pictures would be nice

Of what exactly?

well of the whole process in general. everything is easier to understand with illustrations, right?

Well whats wrong with the gallery i posted?

where did you post a gallery? I am unable to spot a link

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http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/gallery/871/

haha does it actaully feel good/better to have two sets of glides on one mouse?

It doesnt dig into the mat as much, since the surface area is larger.

Man thats quite insightful makes me wanna do it even more :)

i use a mx300 same shape but better sensor

The shape isnt exactly the same.
The buttons on the mx300 are narrower, the clips in the top half are different.

Put the innards of your G1 into the Logi WMO. I'd think they'd fit.

This is so hard to find a good mouse like :

- mx300
- ie3
- deathadder 1800 dpi

good luck to get that nowdays

IE3 is really easy to find

I just got a DeathAdder 1800 off eBay myself. It's refurbished but seems fine to me

Logitech G1 is also easy to get off eBay, it's similar to MX300 but 800DPI

ie3 @ 400 dpi, not the 450 dpi

pretty sure all IE3 are 400DPI and that 450 is a myth

:-)
Gonna give my opinion soon, i brought a black IE3.

I have no choice, the old one, is not available.

Here : http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1667958

Is all confusion. Imo the mouse skates are maybe different, and give more speed. So somes people think it is 450 dpi.

I don't know.

I've got both IE3 and WMO, they have the same DPI (same °/cm), and are both more sensitive than my 400 dpi mice. Heck, they're even more sensitive than the DA @450 dpi, but I suspect the sensor doesn't give 450 dpi since my mx500 is more sensitive than my DA.

Sensor position plays an important role. DA's sensor is further back, closer to the base of your palm, while WMO is further up infront.

I know. That's why I can't play properly with the 3.0 :p
But i tested it doing straight horizontal lines, so no influence over the result :)

After a lot of tests, my new IE3 (black one) ... is the same DPI.
So i am agree with you, it is 400 dpi.

The sideeffect of putting a good sensor into an awesome shape is: u dont need to buy a new mouse for 5 or more years.

Mouse manufacturers started to realize that long time ago ;)