interesting, didn't know about the corealtion between sounds and shownormals

so to reduce sound you just need to split map into more visportal sections. and id still cant fix sound on bf :/

Already done afaik.

than it would be great to see your investigation of bf sound! ;)

all the open windows caused the vis stuff to not work properly

you would need to split it so many times to do it properly the poly count for the levels would probably rise by a few hundred %.

At least without a seriosu rewrite of how the sound occlusion is done :(

primary reason of splitting map into PVS sections is to reduce poly count

me likey :)

now walter, make a spawn forcing guide to aerowalk

If you want my 2 cents, I spend a some minutes in aero, and I felt the spawns are quite diverse overall. For the positions I tested, there are usually 4 available spawns (out of the 8 available), where at least two are in audible range, and at least one is not.

Besides the well known abuses (from the ra room to the center bottom, and from rocket to the teleport ga, which seems to occur about 1/3 - 1/4 of the times) I could see no obvious patterns. I would be surprised if you can really force much more than that.

yeh spawn system was changed in one of the last updates, leads to some very random situations..

yeah like i have time for this shit

id shoudl disable the sound make when respawning..

It does this in quake 3 to the best of my memory, at least the dodgy sound system.

Its a rather dated way of assuming that if the room is being drawn to the player then it should render all the sounds inside there.

Sadly, rooms/cells are often many times bigger than the player, which is why is looks so wrong.

Splitting the rooms into more portals adds more polys and so much more work. If the system does work how I think then it would improve the sound system, but you would need to slice every map into hundreds more rooms/cells to make up for the primitive way they doing the sound.

This is actually a borderline cheat because all you need to do is study the key points on the map which dispaly the most rooms and you;'de get a real boost in terms of sound radius, which by the sounds of it is what that URL is promoting.

So turning off spawn sounds should defintely be a priority, actually I have given cheap effective solutions to this stuff over the years but they never ever listen.

omg another wallhacker ^^

I was making a guide ages ago with top down and side view screenshots of every duel map with spawn locations and the probabilities of where the enemy will spawn at various locations. I also was using the shownormals trick to find the best spots for hearing.

But ya they changed the spawn system and fucked up all my hard work lol but I might start it again soon.

I should also note I found a better way to test spawn locations without the bots timing out like in the script from 4sg. By making them follow you but making the follow distance bigger then the map so they dont move, plus they taunt reapeatly in this way so its easier to hear where they spawned if you wanted to test the probabilitesof forced spawning, repeating the spawn like 1000 times.