Borderlands deja-vu.

Yep

if Rage isnt as buggy as borderlands was at launch + have more content, itl be quite alot of fun to play :>

Borderlands was uber fun in co-op. I hope Rage provides the same option.

Borderlands wery. That+Brink has me hopeful for this year c:

Brink was already released - it's called TF2.

Get the fuck out of my ESR, filthy redneck. Go pray how Jesus hates abortions or how you love the Busyh family something.

Couldn't handle the truth, or is it that time of month?

looks like you found his Rage point

Looks like you pushed him to the brink.

Borderlands meets the slow zombies of L4D

zombies in L4D are faster than the player.

They're waaaaaaaaay faster in House of the Dead arcade!

Don't come, don't come!

HOTD2 one the best games ever and amazing graphics.

or ghosts and goblins! (ok the red guy at least)

the game was shown and announced before Borderlands.

well it doesn't matter which one was 1st or not, they both kinda feel the same from what i can tell. Nothing wrong with that.

I would say only in environment. Borderlands is first person Diablo in post apocalyptic world. RAGE is not an RPG and will not have inventory/item pickups like Borderlands. It's like saying Quake and UT are exactly the same/very similar (which people do think this).

Yea environement, the car battles featured in that vid also look awfully familiar. As far as actual gameplay/storyline/ect I can't judge yet as I haven't touched it. But you gotta admit at a first glance they do tend to look very similar.

When you look at multiplayer FPS games then Quake and UT are quite similar. Their basic concept is the same and they have a lot of weapons with similar functions. Both games have TDM, Duel, FFA and CTF. To someone that hasn't played many years of either UT or Quake, the main differences are art style, map design principles and UT having dual fire weapons which is not a lot. It is like comparing defuse maps in CS to S&D in COD, which both play quite similar (one is the original while the other is a copy).

Nothing out of the ordinary, just another shooter with dumb AI.

Next.

Graphics are great. particually the sewer section, but I think it'll struggle to offer anything new gameplay wise.

I'll still get it for the PC. I like the grittiness of id games and you know it'll be relatively solid overall.

Any idea of pc relase or playable demo?

you mean release date? sept 13th, 2011, something like that (early-mid september)

Yeah I'll get it too even though it's not going to be a revolutionary gameplay.

Generic as fuck.

it's slow paced
I wonder why all console shooter's devs don't copy the nowadays n°1 selling alltime best selling console fps : modern cod stuff ; it's not that slow paced even when it's joypad controled (check on http://fr.justin.tv/directory/gaming?order=hot&lang=all , there is always a cod 8 stream on)

also : this video is old

Ah, didn't know it was old, seen it on theawesomer.com :)

bashing on id is always welcome here (we have some surplus), even if it's a rehash (kind of remember someone linking a vid quite similar if not exactly this one ; if esr wasn't as fail as ql -although it could be as awesome as ql could be (hence the rage)- I would be able to find the thread)

hey really I just realised : ql is just like esr : it could be awesome, but the wrong person has the keys (this said, not so sure anyone -still alive- has them anyway)

theawesomer : thumbnails too big

The thumb nails are based on a standard advertising size of 300x250. I would assume it makes it easier to blend ads into his page design..

Also, I like the thumb sizes :)

gameplay doesn't have to be revolutionary for a game to be good. just sayin.

Nope, but if their previous SP titles are anything to go by they are stuck with making slow games that try to emulate fast paced gameplay. Not a good combo. IMO Rage has the potential to make id a star again or send them into irrelevance as a FPS developer. It is a make or break title, as id is nowhere close to the status of the powerhouse developers of todays gaming world. Mostly older PC gamers, that played doom and quake games that were released prior to 2000, are the ones who remember id as a major developer.

ID haven't been a powerhouse for quite some time.. I'm just saying the game might be good despite not bringing anything revolutionary to the table. For ID to become huge it kinda has to tho.

They are one of the few developers who still control their company,, in this day and age when devs are selling themselves to EA and Ubisoft at the drop of a hat that's quite an achievement with today's game budgets.

Itonically them being in control of their company shows how strong they are in the deepest sense.

they sold themselves to zenimax

Oh I thought that was just a deal for quakelive as Zenimax seem to do web stuff.

Whatever, I can't see id changing their formula much and whichever publisher they go with I think it will just allow id to continue waht they do best.

Produce relatively good FPS games.

independence-wise maybe. Sales/Communities.. Size, no.

They used to be quite small compared to other developers and made a fortune selling their game engines, which is what allowed them to stay independent. If they hadn't sold themselves to zenimax, then they would have been very dependent on Rage being a success.

They still are, though. A commercial failure of Rage would lead to less independence at id, since Zenimax wouldn't want them fucking up future titles.

Meh. I wonder if Zenimax doesn't have a bigger plan in there, somewhere.

TES V - id engine, Obsidian writing, Bethesda supervising? That could potentially be a great fucking game. Gamebryo is a piece of shit, and the writing was the deal-breaker for me in Fallout 3, an otherwise decent sandbox game. Meanwhile, Obsidian lack the discipline and programming capabilities to write shit on their own without it needing a fuckton of patches, and id's creativity seems to have dried up, something Obsidian still has in abundance.

TEH TRIFORCE

TES V = fallout nv updated engine = Gamebryo updated

Oblivion and Fallout 3/NV used updated gamebryo from Morrowind, that didn't work out so well. Unless it's id doing the updating, i'd rather they burn that abomination with napalm.

Why would you want an id engine? Both id and bethesda are notorious for poor engines.

id? Notorious for bad engines? Wat. They wrote and outsourced some of the most efficient and most advanced engines of their respective times. idtech1 had no competition. idtech2 had no competition except for Unreal engine. idtech3 had no competition. idtech4 had source shit on it's head, but was still at the very least a decent, efficient engine.

edit: Doom engine was pretty much cream of the crop as well, until Descent. And so was Wolf 3d's, until Doom.

No competition does not mean that it was a good engine.

also, tech3/tech4 were both horribly inefficient, and still bump into performance issues on modern hardware.

Oh, i see, you're trolling me. Should have said so from the start. Carry on.

No, you're just wrong.

Why, because you said so? I know their engines are efficient from personal experience, i've had sub-par rigs my whole life, and i never had problems running idtech based games in high detail. Dunno where you get your "id engines are poor" brainwave from, but it's just silly.

How does your lack of issue with them correlate to efficiency? Because you said so? It's like saying that an engine isn't demanding because you can run it at max settings with your hardware.

Yeah, pretty much. Other contemporary 3d shooters gave me much more shit than idtech running games = idtech engine was superior.

Unless you wanna make the point that idtech engines were shit but every other engine was shittier, i have no idea where you're going, here.

It can be better than other engines, but still be grossly inefficient at what it does. Aside from Source, and maybe the UT3 engine, there aren't many good engines.

Okay, but we're talking comparisons not some theoretical attainable efficiency. Source was/is easily one of the best engines ever written, but that doesn't mean the likes of tech4 are bad, just not as good. And there's still the case of previous generation engines basically having no equals, so... yeah.

Looks boring :(

fucks sake :/

meh doom 4 plz

wastelands, sewers, crossbows, electrocuting people in water, sewers, buggies, RCCARS THAT BLOW UP.. i've never seen any of these in any recent FPS games.. how revolutionary.

"We want FPS players to feel good in the vehicles, so, they're really easy to drive, like arcade style. You can race them"

why are these devs such fucking morons these days?

Maybe because they have to make games for the masses and they like this stuff?

Or maybe because of the size of the terrains require a vehicle to cover ground inbetween levels.

I could doubtless think of more, but I have no doubt I have hit the nail on the head already.

because of the average, average, average

Because of these so called console "gamers". This breed is ruining the gaming industry :/

consoles are ok for other game types (racing, beat'em ups), but in no way for shooters.

Can you strafejump??

lolwut

Imagine, enemy is in that car/buggy, and u strafe just as fast and nail him with rockets. xD

that would be awesome xD

I'd rather beat hl2 sp again. I actually laughed out loud when he showed off the crossbow after hyping it up.. what a snoozefest this game is :(

i want q1 remake!

why did you post this shit here? that gameplay is old as shit and no new news on this game after quakecon... :|

First actual gameplay footage I seen :s

you can watch this same footage from gametrailers or some other site with REAL HD quality

you know, there isn't really anything stopping you from posting stuff yourself the moment you see it ;)

Hope someone will use the megatexture technology and make a Dakar game! :D

The technology is on par with was Epic was doing 2-3 years ago and the gameplay is was pretty much everyone's been doing for the last 10 years or so.

Gone are the days when id could sell their games based purely on graphics. Others have caught and surpassed them so they're "forced" to makes games actually fun. Which, if you played any of their games in the last 15 years, will know they're nothing spectacular. I think this game will either break or make id. They pretty much fucked it with the D3 engine and Epic beat them on the licensing market. Games like CoD/HL proved people don't want to play dumb "arcade style" fps shooter which id's been doing for the last 15 years. They've been trying to get into the mobile business - don't know how's that working out, all I've seen was that video of Carmack showing off his engine on the iphone and then a day later Tim Sweeney shuts him up with his iphone stuff...
And they haven't released a big title in over 6 years while their main competitor (well, sort of) is releasing AAA games almost annually.

So, putting all those things together; if this game doesn't sell they're pretty much fucked. And from what I just saw it looks like a fun game, but nothing to write home about. I'm not sure it will be as much of a success as they hope, but we'll see.


btw, the funniest shit ever is that I remember Todd Hollenshead saying in an interview right before D3 was released how they're not doing big open spaces just because it's what's popular these days. And now you look at this game and they have vast open spaces and have pretty much copied all the cool ideas from other games.

afaik unreal engines don't do megatexturing yet
also rage doesn't look that impressive graphically because carmack wants 60fps on consoles

somethings gonna get ruined because it will be just a pc port from consoles..

what do you mean ?

I can't tell you about megatexturing without doing some research, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't an equivalent technology in Unreal Engine 3.x 2-3 years ago. Also GoW 1 and 2 was 60 fps AFAIK. GoW will be 30 and this is what it looks like: http://www.gamesthirst.com/2010/05/25/gears-o...e-engines/

Just compare the first pic to Rage, seeing as they are somewhat competing technologies. No contest.

I hope Rage flops so Zenimax fucks up id and puts in people that know a thing or two about gameplay. Since they have talented people when it comes to technology and very talented artists, I believe the people running id are the ones making crappy games. So this would probably be a good thing for them. Or at the very least replace the people pulling strings in there, because we've been pretty much playing the same game (but better graphics) for the last 15 years.

Do that research, and then study this image and tell me if you think megatexturing was used:

http://www.laurenscorijn.com/wp-content/uploa...are003.jpg

That image clearly has the repeating textures that id want to make a thing of the past.

is the second screenshot edited for better texture clarity or is there a way to make the graphics so bright in-game?

not going to do well or get good reviews, but looks like it could be fun

I find it funny how people always comment on things they don't know any about!

is that true for your comment as well?