u still playing with that biiiiiig crosshair? :D

Yes!

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also, n1 on giving people a warping tool.

Is warp a problem? Ah that is what you mean with placebo?

if you think warping is placebo you're a moron that cant be saved.

ID said something similar...
ID's default answer: its the fault of your connection/hardware or the connection/hardware of your opponent.

thats because they wont admit that their netcode is utter shit

how many times have you read/seen someone complain about their ping and packetloss to ql servers ONLY and not have ANY trouble in any other games? i hear about it all the time, and have been hearing about it for quite a while

At Qcon 2010 they did mention they still were not satisfied with the netcode. Since then though, I haven't heard a thing regarding it.

pinghax

low ping is better, clientprediection is shit

Dood i feel the same way. I ping fucking 15 to toronto servers but never play it because my acc is always fucked up.

I aim the best on 35-45 ping. 50 -55 is next. 25-35 is next and then 60-65 ping.

And THEN 15 ping and anything over 65 is fucking terrible.

The game is fucked up.

I'm always playing on a 50-60 ping because my Inet is only 6000DSL (max 600kbit download) so I can't say anything about ping below that level. However in CPMA and Warsow I get a stable 30-45 ping and seem to hit more. I don't know if it's the netcode that pushes my ping down or something else (like the games not runing in a browser) but I think lower ping in general seems to be better for hit-registration.

comes in handy for CTF att :>

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guess it depends what you get used too.. I play on de servers a lot so when i go back to the uk and ping 20 my rails are completely off... everyone should be forced to just play de :P

agreed, everyone should be forced to play in de and make germany the... wait a second :<

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So, just that I understand this correctly. You call people newbies for saying low ping is better and then a dev comes in and tells you you are wrong? So technically, the newbies are correct?


I mean, have you considered that aiming with different pings (in the range 0 - 60) might not be harder but just different? So, that when you are used and comfortable with say 40, the difference when playing at 20 makes your accuracy drop not a change in "hitbox size".

After all, we all know people who can handle ping 90 really well, because they are used to it.

As always, spot on Sir!

I feel a difference as well though. It is especially noticeable with ping 40+ and mg - it is sooooo much easier to aim with that kind of ping. Shaft aim can be easier but it is less responsive so with a guy that has really good dodging it is not as effective - it feels different though.

I had to play for 6 months on ping 40/50 on nl and I got used to it. With ping 40 I basically hit the same as with ping 28 (which I have now) but it is definitely a different feeling. You need to get used to it and then you won't experience a difference anymore (but that applies to so many things in life so I do not think that it is correct :P because my mg is still shit).

nuke please. that's in essence another tool for easy and undetected cheating in quake. also: check your head, i ping 6-7ms to frankfurt and yes, it's better than ping 40 in warsaw.

Zer1ton's story of the day:
I play a lot of TF2 on US servers mainly because I only tend to play TF2 really late and night, and cba to put up with drunk chavs on UK servers or irritating frenchmen on Euro servers. That plus more people seem to own mics on US servers and the chit-chat is fun.

I average ping around 120. Thing is, I don't really care much. I still own it up mainly because I'm used to that ping. Put me on a UK server with 40 ping and it feels so much easier with rockets (mainly because of the delays) but with hitscan, I find it a bit harder to be honest. Reason for this? I'm used to the netcode from the higher ping.




In short - learn to fucking aim with a lower ping. Stop depending on intDerp

aren't you the same person that posted a thread about how the rl is over used and that people you attack with lg shouldn't use it? somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaaaambulance etc

sorry, but there is no 'fix' to your problem

Here's how the game plays for me:

15-30 ms. I have to aim properly, good dodging actually matters when I'm using MG/LG.

30's/40's. I like this ping range, not much disadvantage with rockets plus hitscan feels solid.

55/60+ ms. The minor delay of rockets can slightly bother me, but, with MG/LG/RG I don't have to aim properly at all. I can feel myself not tracking people precisely yet I hit them still, I don't claim to know anything about how the netcode works, but, I'm extremely in-tune with how it feels. It feels like I'm being given significant leeway when it comes to hitscan at this ping. I hit rails far easier and I don't have to track properly to hit extremely high percent LG/MG.

90+ms. Game feels shit now, but on the old hitboxes it wasn't that bad, I could go on US servers with 95-100 ping and comfortably hit 50 MG on ffa servers.

A developer can say it's bullshit all they want, but I'd be willing to bet they know fuck all about how the game really feels.

This. But I have to admit I played with 60+ping for fucking long so I must be used to it.

I can play with like 15ms on servers in my country but I get a far better hitscan aim (LG, MG and RG) on 50-60ms servers.
Above that there's too much delay though.

In UT2k4 on the other hand I hit billion times more the lower my ping is.

demo of 50MG with 90 ping plz.

Unlikely I can find a 2009 demo sorry, but it wasn't hard with the old hitboxes even at that ping, it was an FFA server with mostly bad players like all FFA servers.

Yep no problem with the right opponent(s) ;)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5411/derppd.jpg

you mean guys standing still?

No, but that would obviously work too.

I got exactly the same experience. Sometimes its really funny to play 50-60 ping because I am hitting rail after rail which were so completly of... and missing rails which had to hit... its just random.

this! except that i can't comment on 90+range, never tried it.

just one sidenote to 55/60+, "It feels like I'm being given significant leeway when it comes to hitscan at this ping. I hit rails far easier and I don't have to track properly to hit extremely high percent LG/MG"

i underwrite the leeway, but i still prefer the 40 range because i have the impession that this only applies at more easy movement patterns. when it comes to strafin opponents, shaft duells, i find the 40 range more responsive and givin the better result.


anyway, the netcode is seriously fucked up!

Ive got about 40ms on NL, 50ms on DE since the launch of QL. And I've heard many ppl talk about this but since i never tried 15 ping, i couldnt rly say whether its bullshit or not, until a few weeks ago when they put the swedish servers back up, and can now verify its complete bullshit, and i even find it quite hilarious and sad at the same time that ppl whine at too low pings, its a completely different game, it feels very responsive and everything hits.

also lol at accuracy%

ur lg is bullshit, really

no, it's just bullshit, really

so true, takes a few minutes to get used to and then every rocket is direct! EVERY

Yeah I've always just felt like the lower ping you have, the better everything (rl/pg/gl in particular, of course) is. Funnily enough I've also never ever ever seen server negotiations where anyone actually preferred higher ping but heeey...

makes me think about the '48/50 ping' back in the sof days torz ;p

lmao


you cant aim

this ^ i ping around 48-60 on any server in quakelive apart from the swedish ones, and ill trade with anyone who's playing on 35 and less. just give me a call.

Note the case they were making was 35-45 ping being better than 20.

i doubt theres a major difference between 45 and 48?

THERES A HUEG DIFFERENCE ROFL ARE YOU SOME KINDA NOOB LOLOLO ?!? OMG ADMIN BAN PLZ

get them to enable lan mode for low pingers, it will probaly bypass all the bullshit of client prediction, lan mode server in each country

my brain just exploded

hmm, went from 20 ping to 40-50 after moving and everything feels a little less precise and a little less on point, but thats what you would expect anyway i guess. but for me it absolutely doesnt feel like hitscan now registers better o0

iv been using this since 2004 and thats why im so good at dodging

right

Finally someone that steps up and says the truth.

Best ping to have is 35-50 ms for the aim-assist boost it gives you.

My aim increases, the lower my ping. I could never get under 20 ping while in Europe, but that was the ideal ping when I played. Plasma for example, becomes unusable over that.

I would like to point out that the person you are playing can affect your aim a lot. Although I disagree that your aim would be better on a higher ping, possibly you have been playing against different people on the different servers, and they crappy settings or connections, thereby causing your aim to be worse.

Pub ca hero with laghax, how low can one get.

but he didn't call the quakelive forum users newbies when they were gushing over his heroic pub ca videos.

Same problem here , aim better at 30 ms :/ ( 16ms on fr)

lol

I never hit 40% lg in any match :( when I have 30+ I'm uber happy... but! I'm spamming a lot!

true story!

Visje and dem0n are absolutely right. Lower ping is better until you reach about 25ms, then it starts acting weird.

Projectile weapons keep getting better even at < 25ms delay, the rail is different but seems to be working "properly", but the LG is way off. At <25ms you'd expect to hear a continuous stream of hitbeeps if your crosshair stays on the target but it's actually WORSE than at >25ms. Going from 22ms to 35ms I see a 7-9% LG increase, EVERY single time. I often connect to friends servers without looking at the location and I can instantly tell when I'm in a <25ms server; the game feels smooth but the LG doesn't register.

Please id, fix this fucking problem instead of telling us that the netcode is working properly (I saw sponge or whatever his name was responding to Visje, he basiclly told him to fuck off then closed his thread. WTF).

you're an idiot

Fuck ID
Worst support ever.

pussies banned me from #quakelive, syncerrors a bitch, idle->sync->banned

In QL I don't think I've ever played on a server with more than 30 ping. Simply because of having the luxury of always having a nearby FFA or CA server. My usual ping is 20 to 25.

I couldn't believe this story so I did a test and joined an east-european server. My ping was a steady 45ms.

I don't think I've ever had such a good rail and LG as in these games I just played. Finally I understand how some people with higher ping than me can get such sick accuracies.

nuke this shit

fucking warp morons, think they are pro dodger and nobody can hit them coz of their ninja warp...

since ID isnt interessted in doing a fix for the warping player issue, its legit.

Way to go, grade A reasoning.

id also refuse to fix that people hit better with medium, therefore using an aimbot for higher or lower pings is totally justified.

you cant compare a "crap connection" with an aimbot
ID denys the issue actually exists so basicly you will make a "disadvantage" for you with the network tool according ID :P

while of course producing a disadvantage for your opponents who can't hit you anymore.
But that's not important, right now ;P

thanks for nuking the link, good to know who uses this kind of stuff (hi visje).

btw, how come i get whined at day in day out for my sub 10 ping if mid-range is supposed to be so much better?

to most half decent players i'm just "all ping anyway" whenever they see me playing on a home server. never did one of them say anything about higher pings being better for your aim.

people will take everything they can find as a reason to whine.

If you had high ping they'd just blame you for warping and abusing the netcode :P

Well remember the day that i was the first one to inform you about it. And slowly but surely more and more will close their initially wide opened mouths of unbelief and realize that this is the simple truth.

And guess what the regular random person will do to gain a higher ping? Download stuff. Preferably torrents. Torrents + Quake = warp like starship enterprise. I suppose you'd prefer that.

the alternatives aren't torrents vs your tool, it's torrents/your tool/other cheats vs facing reality.

After i got suspicious about my (massive) difference in performance on western and eastern european servers i have asked my neighbor if i could connect to his access point, and used that to see what happens then on western european servers. After that i was 100 percent convinced.

The first option that i considered and that would fit in your list is getting a second internet connection, the crappiest one there is available in my town. Would you define that as 'cheating' as well?

are you using timenudge? i turn it off once my ping gets below 40...at first i have to get used to it but i definitely aim better with lower ping rather than higher, i have no idea what kind of drugs you're smoking but i want some

this whole thread goes to show just how random ql netcode is

might as well be rolling dice

afaik they removed any method a while ago. there used to be a ping cmd that could set your ping to xxx amount, but they removed it because it could be used to get behind teleporters or under the fog in some maps, and instead of fixing the maps, they removed the cmd. so, the only way is to do something stupid like DL lots of torrents while playing :D

or DL one mp3 in my case :/

aw, you poor thing :(

:(

its blablablabla,. hitscans are fired on both server and client, server will register the hit, client prediction think will render last known entity positions and carry on from there if ping is above the server max ping/clientprediction cvar to stop players warping

get q43a, there is no hitscans, every projectile is 100% serverside from launching to physics and fx, all netcode for every entity spawned is fixed which speeds up the games and less FPS drop

why i can make q43a dedicated server vids with a athlon xp 2600+ barton with fraps all running on the same desktop with specular lighting enabled as default in q43a r_skipspecular 0, forced off in everything else

and my code is so clean, no work arounds, recode it, its just big skyboxes that will slow q4 down on dedicated server games

how is militia's netcode?

you tell me, Q43A is the only mod for quake 4 that had/has the militia name, and plenty of coding and recoding existing recoded code has been done over the past year since militia has had the Q43A name.

the only other militia mod is for CS

disable all the new features in Q43A, most are in the serverconfig and synced out to all players.. and find out

si_cvars are serverInfo, the serverconfig that runs the game on the server and lets the client games what bits of code to run and bypass, working inconjunction with all the new gameLocal.iServer/isDedicatedServers/isClient/isListenServer

* = gameLocal.iServer/isDedicatedServers/isClient/isListenServer

if ( gameLocal.isDedicatedServer ) {

do this code;

} else if ( gameLocal.isClient && gameLocal.serverInfo.GetBool( "si_vehicleRespawn" )) {

do this bit of code;

}

the geting the above to work on listenServer is another brain fuck, in Q43A listenServers are not clients, so you would use gameLocal.isServer

to make life easy, recode some other code that it is used on all servers and clients, in Q43A player models when spawned/respawned are reset and loaded on everything, which is helped by having all player models cached

or if the code is used regularly, make a function in idEnity function whatever() and it can be called and used in 99% of other kid classes this-> or this::whatever()

any change with a si_cvar on a pure server using rCon/admin main menu, should reset and restart the match and tell all clients the new settings, the code exists but dont know if it works, any other network synced cvar will not be included

= try it and you tell me, its either an improvement or complete shit, the gameplay feels the same

the more players and action you have on a server, the more obvious the new code becomes and Q43A steps into its own world

forget about the past of quake 4 and just have a game like the good old days is Q43A netcode and new features and CTF, everything gets own3d if you just use Q43A for a simplistic duel

and becuase of the above, snapshots will not get flooded, that sync all clients with the server, making 32 slots games possible with vehicles and all fx and voicetaunts

the game will use the same or less bandwidth, never more, vehicles in mp games will add a few kb

so this is the tool everyone is using to be so choppy these days. I swear in all of q3 history the passed few weeks people are choppier than ever before. 20 pings or lower and they look like snap shots taking every 3 seconds or some shit.

no


everyone in this thread is placebo


next people will be saying low fps is gud for aim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no

q3's netcode aside from LAN was dubious from the beginning. QL's is aswell, I can still hit thin air and score hits, happens in every single game.

that is as feature :D

my idea to throw in here is when i tried different cfg mouse settings with some i noticed that i hit better on ger servers (50-60) than on msk (5-15) so my guess is personal cfg mouse settings affect high ping accuracies

If everyone stated their opinion on pings, I guess it's only fitting that I do the same.

Since I started QL, I have almost only played on my home servers, pinging 3-4. Everything feels nice and smooth, rails are good, lg is great.

Now, when I join a .de server, pinging 35, I have to completely change the way I aim. My LG aim is the 'quirky crosshair-only-on-the-model' type, and it works LIKE SHIT on 35 ping. If, however, I change my aiming style to the 'keep-your-xhair-stable-in-the-general-direction-of-the-enemy', LG on 35 ping is like taking candy from a baby. It seems the hitbox lags behind the strafing player and never moves from the crosshair =)

Rail is mostly the same, minus the barely noticeable firing delay (or hit delay, when using cg_predictLocalRailshots 1)

Omg pls go back to qlforums with this bs

ID wont listen, they just close the threads as they come.
I canceled the "automatic renewal" of the account months ago, just because of the bad support.

u dont understand

i told him to go back to ql forums cos thats the right place for this kinda whines and gayarena players

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Hi mister registered since november 2009.

Kiss on your cute little belly.

go whine more about beein pwned by rl

seriously i thought u re a smart guy but the topics u create re the most pathetic bs ive seen in my life and they suit qlforums very well hence my comment

"omg omg i cant find any skill matched gayarena games!!!!"

"omg omg the opponents i meet in pubs dont match my skillz!!!!"

"omg omg somebody raped me with a rl when i was trying to shaft him from behind!!!!"

"omg omg i cant hit 110% rail it must be cos of ql netcode!!!"

to be honest after so many years of playing u should hit 50% in this gametype on any ping if u dont spam

if u re not able to pls consider switching to wow

tickling under your chin

does it make you purr like a kitten?

purr :3

I ping 6-12ms to UK servers and under 20ms across Europe - I had a much better acc, with all weapons, with my previous 35-45 ping. Never really thought about it tbh, haven't had this ping that long - thought maybe it just took some getting used to. However, I played a couple of duels to swe/pol servers, and my aim felt far more predictable.

Not that i ping as low as 15ms anywhere living in Scotland but i can only agree with what has been said before. Vor summarised well what i have experienced with QL netcode.

I've moaned on the quakelive forum about the netcode many a time. I wish they would just drop unlagged code altogether. I think it's more intuitive to have a slight delay than for the server to randomly decide what hits. Plus when people choose a server with a ping over 100ms, it's clear that almost no hitscan weapons will hit them and they basically have autododge.

I know that they would like a level playing field online but it's just not realistic. Seriosly, why diminish the experience of people with good internet connections, to benefit those who don't? If you have shit internet and it bothers you enough, move home! :P

So what about this netcode experience:

I play on min 48 ping, max 56 ping in that 8 ping difference I go about 40 - 90 ping in difference with the feeling and registering of lg, rail and rockets.

ie. on 48 const i can track to about 35% percent lg, same servers, same players, same computer, but when my tripleplay (TV) is active and I have const 56 ping, I have to predict like almost a centimeter in front of opponents to hit lg, etc.

What pisses me off is people that have 15-20 ping, hitting 40% normal lg accuracy and whining about it.
I can respect time you spent for that, I really respect game skill of people who know how to play, but I don't respect is a good player under 30 ping going nuts about few percent of lg.
Also you have an option to manipulate your ping, thus manipulating the way netcode behaves for you, an option that is unavail to most of QL players so use it or don't don't. Many of us can't opt to give ourselves a higher ping just to hit more :)

I was whining a long long time about this ridiculous ping issue until syncerror told us to look into the netcode/extrapolation AGAIN (again because they just "improved" it a few weeks ago) and then... nothing happens.
To be honest I dont expect a fix for this issue because I am whining for so long... since closed beta... after the netcode "fix"... I gave up. So I found myself on servers where I ping 35+ and Im fine.

The best fix atm is to play cpma. Xerp is what ql netcode/extrapolation should be...

in a nutshell: ID developer sucks. All hail arQon

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everything below 35 feels crap. OFC I prefer 35 vs 60

visje is a cheating attentionwhore.

he thinks no matter of ping, when he aims the same way, there must be more hits with lower ping.

well how does he know his aim stays the same?...
hes just an aimbotting kid, that doesnt see that with a better ping of course you have to adept to a lower delayed hitbox...

and instead of adapting, he flames around, he flames everything quake, the coders... instead of maybe growing a penis and start using a brain, and play tier1 without hax

O hai lowle.

lol

The game is shit. I think most reasonable people will agree with that. It's basically Q3/OSP with added bugs and some important features missing. So from a gamer's perspective it's actually a step backwards from what we had in 2002.

The netcode on the other hand is a complete joke. I cannot for the life of understand how some people go and play online tournaments with money prizes and shit. This game is almost like playing lotto. I don't think I've ever played a single game where at least one of my rails went completely through the enemies body without registering or hitting completely off - sometimes the rail even lands into a wall - and the hit registers. I actually thought about making just a movie out of those hits, but why bother. It's not like they're gonna fix it anyway... I'll give this game 6 more months, maybe a year before they shut it down.

I kinda feel sorry for the guys who bought into this bullshit and got year long premiums. You are in fact playing almost exactly the same game with most of the same maps as you did in Q3 which you bought in 1999. I can't think (off the top of my head) 1 thing about this game that most people would say is an improvement over Q3/OSP/CPMA. They essentially sold you the same game twice. Only that the second time they removed a lot of features which I'm sure if the game will still be developed, will require an extra payment.
I like the way you don't have to "install" it and use the site to find matches, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking just about the game. Oh, the graphics are a _little_ nicer but 3x more demanding on the gpu.

With all that being said; I ask you? Where is your beloved Arquon now? Back in the Q3/OSP/CPMA days he was damn near of a selfproclaimed god and he finally gets the chance to work with id and wtf has he done? I'm serious; if someone can answer this for me - what was/is arquon doing in QL? Is he responsible for this shitty netcode? I heard somewhere that he was only counseling at id or something like that. Did they really need to hire a person who sole job was to point at Q3 and say "make this"?


Anyway, the game has been constantly lagging for the past couple of days and I can't remember when the last update was and they sure don't seem to have a lot of luck with ads considering I've been watching the same Fallout ad for like a year now and they also removed pb (to cut down costs?). So I imagine with all those servers they must be losing money and it's only a matter of time before they pull the plug?

Let's just pray to the gods that a) Rage's multiplayer doesn't suck ass and that b) they don't use the same netcode...

Rage multiplayer? I giggled a bit. Nice one.

arQon has been missing for years, and he didnt touch ql netcode iirc, he was just a consultant for a short time before going afk.

I read the last line. and laughed.

i agree with you visje & i know what you feel, i have sFTTH broadband and my ping is 5 in paris, 12 in UK, 15 in DE, 22 in NL & i know what you mean. Netcode need to get smarter for very low pingers IT FEELS ANTILAG IS TOTALY OFF with super low ping.

It's even worth when u play againt 60+ ping players.

maybe there is a built in XERP that activates once your ping goes above a certain threshold.....

xerprage!!

it's high time Id sold this shit to Valve so we can finally get proper netcode/anticheat/servers/matchmaking/updates/support/features.

thats actually a good idea!
Valve can save ql

or decide to shut it down ... because it's not worth the maney/development :)

At the very least, we might get some hats or something for it. Which at this point I'd consider more useful than the majority of cvars they keep coming up with.

you wil just get a pin on badge

You guys are nuts. Was playing all time on Russian servers with 32ms, thn played on Warsaw#1 with 20ms and that was just awesome.

We were talking about pings higher than 35 though.

I had the chance to start playing QL for the first 7-8 months of its life with a fiber connection, with a ping of 6 in my country servers and roughly 15-16 in .de.

Now, this was in beta which means it could be meaningless, but I remember being able to have a higher LG accuracy as a total quake beginner (just played ETQW and some q4/defrag before that) back then than now, with my shitty 60-75 ping (which went up from the 45 i had in beta), and a way lower sens.

This was in beta, and having a ping of 16 was just insane.

Nowadays, I must say there's something fishy, even tho I admit I understand nothing at all about these issues which means I might be wrong, and it might just be an impression of mine: I always get those two different ping values , and the higher one is usually more reliable in terms of hitscans, whilst rockets take whole years to reach enemies.

I have no idea why I've written this long, boring post.

When I was still in Germany I had 20ms and now I've got 35-60ms in austria (upc, depends on daytime unplayable from 18~22). My connection is overall shit and I wish I had my old 20ms back I miss it Q.Q
What I found weird back then was that I couldn't play on polish and uk servers though I had around 40ms. Swedish servers felt fine and I had 40ms too. Don't know whether things have changed now as I only play on german, french and netherland servers nowadays.

ye, I can remember, there was (is?) smth wrong with the UK servers, something like lower snaps/serverfps (20) or comparable (shitty HW?)

ive prefered english and german servers over dutch servers since forever, even in quake3. think i just got used to shitty ping and beeing forced to play on shitty servers for so long, now i cant do anything with 10ms :<

edit, actually reading this thread, it seems like more people prefer 30-35ms, neat oO

I just gave this another shot and well, it definitely works.

At 50ms ping my rail shots looked totally wtf but they were so easy to land, ridiculous. My shaft was 35% when it looked like what would be barely 20% on 20ms servers :[

The fact that there are so many opinions and posts about this matter surely shows there is something wrong. I know it's kinda obvious to state this but some guys who think it's bullshit most people claim here are either very lucky not to be affected by the netcode or are just blind/too used to notice/whatever.

What i notice is that some scandinavian friends are dying to be able to play with a lower ping and I think they are just in that range where the game totally sucks. (70~80 ms), for some even higher due to improper connection but still arguable.

I myself have decent conditions, pinging 16 ms tops in homecountry, The Netherlands. Frankly my accuracies with hitscan (obv.) is higher when I play with a slight higher ping, let's say 20 to 30ms.

I've read most of the posts and it seems pretty random, depending on where you are located somehow... (?)

I wonder if server settings are the same across different locations. I ping 40 on DE as well as on NL but need some time to adjust after switching server locations. DE feels very smooth to me while on NL models seem to stutter a little. Like if they are running different server fps or similar.

It seems most of the people saying higher ping is better are from the Netherlands. Maybe there's a routing or stability issue to the Amsterdam server? I ping 10 there and it's usually great, but there have been times it has felt weird and choppy. That would make more sense...

maybe you aim better when you play on the ping you are used to play? as long as it stays between 20 and 60-80

i should start not aiming, guess it works.
Net code rewards people that try playing with higher ping on faster connection with:
no you don't have to even aim to hit :)

wouldn't using truelightining 0 at the low ping help ?