#1!

Siberia ftw! How can you guys speak of bunkering but not mention shining forces?! This is the biggest tdm map i've sen lately, maybe should get added to the tdm nc pool ;(

And please dont bring up arguments like "but it worked out in q3". Q3 != ql

And no, dont bring all those all q3 maps into the mappool. Lets rather wait for new ones, instead of giving the old q3 clans an advantage because they played that map years over years.

thanks kk bye

atleast you can spawn enemy side at shining forces like at enemy side sg and make a fast attack while with siberia this isnt the case its just another world war 2 bunker in quakelive

tbh spawning in enemy base is bullshit

btw if siberia is tdm map, then what is c1?

a 2v2 ctf map?

your not spawning enemy base.. is like enemy side of mid... :) ...

and c1 is a 2on2 ctf map yes what about it?

I must say i totally agree with fragmasterr.

I've grown to like japanese castles but i find the other "old new" ones much worse than siberia still.

I love the idea of diversity and of course bits of siberia bug me at times but the fact is that its different enough to surely keep in.

Last thing the scene needs is a load of maps all from the same mould with nothing original which imo shining/finnegans etc are :)

Its a popular row but generally this is the pattern...

Oldschool ctf'ers love jap/shining/finnegans and hate c7/c8
Newschool ctf'ers love c7/c8/sk and hate all the "old new" ones.

I think removing the newer attempts could really damage the scene personally.

In my opinion stonekeep still has big potential. By Syncerrors own admission he designed it for 5on5 but now 4on4 is properly established and here to stay it could do with modification.

In my opinion if the tele was removed and the gate was closed off and slight adjustments were made to make the medkit area then it could very likely be suitable for 4v4 play as the base would then be defendable which is most peoples main gripe with it, not size.

Lets not get rid of stonekeep and siberia :(

i can name enough new players who dislike siberia and stonekeep....

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Siberia is a good map and my team never complains about playing it.

TS3 has better features but I prefer the sound quality of mumble.

yea and enemy side spawns are dull anyways (like on p1), which is not based on skill. you get random flag returns just because you spawn there.

and btw

6) Who’s the worst player in your squad and should probably count themselves lucky to even be playing? :) (not to be answered very seriously!).

PAINEE (Germany): well its definitely Paine. this guy can hardly hit a jumppad rail from what i saw so far. but i am captain, so i field myself.

*fixed

thats why you need to cover your FC all the way back to base, you cannot just play FFA :)))))))))))) and i admit that cp1 has 3 spawns enemy side which is abit to much, ive allready proposed to remove 1 spawn enemy side to make it less random but like id would listen to anyone besides noctis heHE

how comes these 2F nubs are whining at me everywhere they see me without having a clue. I mean its quite entertaining but its getting really odd. butthurt guys! :d
and dont forget it was your decission to leave the team fragmaster cause u cant handle to be 2nd choice.

@ maps: i dont have any problem with the new maps like c7 or sk. i just dislike c8 wether its old or new

its not about 2nd choice, its about you nominating players that just dont belong there (like fec who hasnt proven anything so far, besides playing div2 which is why i said you are building a buddy crew plus beeing xtro's biggest fan). dont get me wrong, xtro isnt bad, but overrating himself a lot imo ;)

and its about judging my performance without having seen any game of the last nationscup ;) and i think i proofed my position enough within the last nc. so under the bottom line, you did nothing in the last nationscup, we even arranged the games on our own but still you are trying to judge who should play and who shouldnt which is just lol.

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and in addition you are even fielding yourself now :D

It sounds a tricky situation frag because clearly theres a few disagreements between you and paine and you really need 100% unity and everyone pulling in the same direction imo to do well.

Stating that arguably germanys best capper is "overrated" is not good for team morale really ! :)

Not taking sides, just saying!

as usual you are talking bullshit without knowing anything.
u said ur better than xtro which is just funny. hes definitely the best german attacker. and thats what almost everyone including the nt player thinks.so u are overrating urself as usual.

fec is in the team cause hes a v good 2nd def. he knew right from the start he probably wont play but u never know what will happen during a whole nc season so i just got him as substitute. he can judge his own performances quite well and he knows hes not toplineup. u should try the same!

and the 'u are fielding urself now' bullshit is another brainlag from u and ur friends. we only had 4 ppl avail including me so i kinda had to play. theres no need taking a wildcard against lower skilled opponents just cause we dont have our toplineup. this is something we want to be able to do during the playoffs so we kept our wildcard.

i saw some of ur games from last season ofc. and my dicission was ur not as good as we thought/hoped. u didnt play bad either but smove for example is doing a much better job. and its surely not about beeing 2nd choice. thats why u left after i told u ur not 1st choice again?! :D

and yes, i wasnt around that much during ur gametime but i still saw almost every vod or demo. so i can surely judge who can play or not. was just very bussy with my exams during the last nc.

over and out!

bka :-/



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Guys! your posting on the wrong website damnit!!!!! :)

Hazrd is, and will always be my biggest idol in life.
Ever since I first saw his abs(read: quake awesomeness) I have been in love. To even compare it to love would be an insult as it is so beyond love its unexplainable. I am willing to start a war over his abs(read: quake skills).

How he handles his shaft is so gracious and phenomenal. If you havent seen him play I strongly suggest you guys to tune in next time its possible. It is like watching god rebuild the planet earth all over again.

The world of quake would be obsolete in the sweden without the backbone of hazrds shaft. And dont even get me started on the other weapons, railgun? Yea - its not from this world. People talk about loads of impressives being impressive, hazrd shoots one rail and its instantly worth 10x impressives.

I wish, I strongly wish from the bottom of my heart that you hazrd, never quits playing this game.

Hugs, kisses and some rocket love from your biggest fanboy ever!

Ps. Keep the excellents coming hazrd, love you. Ds.

Last thing, im sorry i posted this here - there should be an entire thread/journal dedicated to hazrd and his awesomeness... No, there should actually be a whole site dedicated to him.

dothehazrd.com!

this is sincerely one of the most hilarious post i've seen in here for a long time.

Thanks for the good laugh, dutch anonymous, I wish I could give a name to this brilliant mind !

have a [+], and all of my gratitude

stop faking draven.

care about a dead game

http://www.selfhelpcollective.com/positive-attitude.html

Why play if you get no enjoyment from it?

Siberia and Stonekeep are two of the better maps that are in the game right now. The reason players are starting to think that maps that were good before aren't good now is because the meta game of ctf has begun to standardize more. Its developed into more tdm then anything else, boring co-ordinated pushes based off playing 3/4 mid most game is the current norm among 99% of American and European teams. Its not the map that's boring, its the styles being played on them that are putting people sleep. The level of strategical creativity within most top teams (not the players actual skill) is still shockingly low.

P.S. Shining forces is just a super simple map, least room for variation even if compared geometrically to ctf2 (can see the whole map from mid), there are still far less possibilities.

siberia is just very borinkkk its maybe diffrent in usa you dont have that many alldef teams.... stonekeep could be good if they like make less options into base.. cause there like to many ways into base right now.. it might be good for 5on5 right now but sure it aint for 4on4... and siberia...
- ra is to easy to defend
- you can defend base from mid/easy to defend when enemy doesnt have quad
- no flow
- no fast attacks
- most spawns are high in base when you get flag and kill a flagdef he spawns most of the time high in base which means he can jump down low or stay high or go ra to intercept flagcarrier aka ur fucked most of the time....

one word for it : bunkermap

agree with clamp on stonekeep. its just not a map you win with "ok i def, you mid, others attack"
sibiria on the other hand is just SO easy to defend which almost has to lead into a "stack for quadlol" fest...

new maps would be nice yes. wishlist.

must be why those two maps are broken's fav maps :))))))))))))

Problem with siberia is that the RAs are very well protected, making the map a very boring tdmfest. Whereas with shining forces you can compete for the RA much more realistically. If the RAs were removed and YAs were placed where medkits are, and put the medkits where RA would've been, this would make it a more "dynamic" and attacking map, without reducing the amount of item control you need too much.

another idea for c8 could be to replace RAs with PU, meaning that RA spawns in middle and both teams get a PU every 2 mins :)

I like how Derfel's epic fail on japcastles is mentioned xD good times!

its 4v4 and no team be?

next

* Siberia is a decent map and I think it still plays better than some of the "old new" maps. I dislike two things about it:

1. The RA is very, very hard to attack. It should be possible to jump from lg to RA without the risk of taking a direct rocket / being pushed down, IMO.
2. Both lg and rail are readily available at the outer exit of the base, where anyone who spawns can pick them up. At least shaft should be somewhere else, in my opinion.

* Stonekeep is potentially a good map, but plays horribly in a 4v4 setting. Too big. Not reccomend.

* Shining Forces is a horrible map. It was horrible and relatively unpopular in Q3 and it is horrible in QL.

* Finnegan's I used to like in Q3, not sure about 4v4 QL yet. Feels a bit strange, though.

* Japanese Castles in it's current state is a mostly random FFA map. Great for a pickup, but it feels terrible for organised teamplay.

* qzctf3 is an underrated map :D

im curious as to how many of these people who go - o jap is a random ffa map now, are defenders who dont like dying cos they dont get to stack up on mh and armor and cant stand up to an up front rocket fight.

sadly enough i have to agree to a certain extent tho. jap is the one map that got really hurt by the weapon balance in ql. i was hoping that it would be better with the new sg but even so perhaps the map needs some item lay out changes. maybe sub pg for sg in base?

nice nice nice!

ctf ftw!!

LoL@ i saw almost all vods... the problem with vods is, that it mainly only shows the flagrunner, not the others when they support him.

concerning that "most capper":

we had fixed roles in our attack, xtro was the flagrunner, and i was the supporter who made it possible for him to cap "that much". if i hadnt distracted the enemies and killed everyone opposing him, he would have capped way less. and unfortunately you cant hear that on vods, thats why a captain has to be on comms to hear stuff that you cant get from a demo.

and this is why i was raging, cause u again chosed many to be on top lineup, which just again shows, that you havent been on comms once. no offense many, but teamplay with you is pretty hard as you almost never speak on comms or just rage.

and speaking of "we decided that you disappointed us last season" is again bs imo, as this we only consists of you and your buddy xtro who keeps up to you, so you can keep going on licking each others ass.

concerning that fec thing:

1st thing is that there are better 2nd defs in germany, for example ph who probably outaims / positions fec, which you never even considered to be tested.

@Q50

i dont really care about having disagreements, i dont need to play in a team where a useless captain and selfwanking xtro try to convince me that i am the worst in the team and will only play if others arent around :) this is why i left the team. because i totally have obviously a different oppinnion of who performed how last season ;)

you all get carried by abso and ischju anyway, so just shut up and love eachother <3

what a butthurt comment really. not even going to answer this bs.

talking without having a clue is not worth an answer :)

At first, I thought it said 'Serbia' doesn't belong.

Since this thread, seems to dead, rhymes aside, what do all of you think about convincing as many teenagers as possible to commit suicide? Is it free-speech or murder? You all know me, i'm ETA all the way, psych-terrorism is my specialty. I don't commit any crime, I just convince teenagers to kill themselves. I think it's funny, that teen-suicide is always so prevalent. How can it be anything but 'thinning the herd', to verbally assist them along the way?

Go Belgium!

oh wait ... :/

wcp9 plx