Are you fucking kidding me? Almost 16 000 $ to the winner? WTF?!!!

have you looked at the line-up? :) This is supposed to be an epic tournament, hence the epic prize pool.

White-Ra, pls come back to Ukraine. :/

woops

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starcraft 2 prize pools are sweet

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209987 !!!

I don't follow sc2, but didn't ace win IEM, why isn't he on the list? Or are boxer and MC considered the best of Korea?

prize pool is insane

MC is considered the best and boxer because of legend status. ace hasnt won much apart from iem i think.

sorry, but only morrow's acomplishment was winning sc2 tournament on gamescom by doing all-in build in every game in final against idra, if it would be after reaper nerf patch morrow would loose this match badly, he got invited to some several tournaments because of this win, but he didnt showed anything

Idra might have beaten Boxer in that infamous match where he made too many ultralisks, but had Boxer checked those creep tumors earlier and went for the gold base in center map there's simply no way how he could've survived all that Boxer harassment + Siege tank placement.

Bottom line is, Idra is seriously overrated. If you're second guessing MorroW's capabilities against someone like Idra, then he's really as good as his last rhyme. CrunCher's the proof!

well last time i watched morrow was world vs korea showmatch on gsl, and he didnt showed anything special, got roflstomped by anypro in really ordinary way

About boxer-idra showmatch : dont think i watched this one, but i remember that like after sc2 relase idra really loved his ultras, just like he loved to pump roaches in the beta when they were for 1 supply :D

Here's the Boxer vs. Idra match on Xel'Naga. (somewhat bad quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RCBfSAHnM

And the one on Metalopolis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blrMNez_eOc

Korea vs. World, well - Anypro got stomped by Sen in the very next match. MarineKing got owned by Sen as well right after that. I hope that doesn't make the GSL finalist (MKP) ordinary to you?

MorroW's a well rounded player who transitioned to Zerg. We all know about his gamescom win and the TvZ situation - No one acknowledged his victory. In Korea vs. World he would've won if Anypro wouldn't have had the time to remax his stalkers, coz his Corrupters simply owned the Colossus. Funny that you mentioned how Idra would've won that game if he had held on because MorroW vs. Anypro was Corrupter+roach+hydra!

These stomps will keep going back and forth. White-Ra owns MC, July owns White-Ra, MC owns White-Ra, ....rinse and repeat. I don't think one can take anything away from the players, specifically not from the likes of TLO and MorroW who've transitioned to the other races.

TLO started out as random though :>

I know. He's been known for switching races like crazy.

get a clue

uninstalled sc2 like a week ago, so I dont need to anymore, also do you really think that morrow would beat idra at gamescom without those cheap all-ins?

uninstalled sc2 like a week ago, so I dont need to anymore

what does having the game installed have to do with following pro competition? o0

also do you really think that morrow would beat idra at gamescom without those cheap all-ins?

thats not what i meant, by now morrow is one of europes best zerg players and has shown great results in many tournaments, thats where you are wrong.
and about gamescom. he might have abused the possibilities terran had back then, but whats you problems? do you want him to not play his strongest builds because they are all-in ish (tbh im not sure if you could call his strong reaper and herassment based builds all-in ish, as long as he does some dmg he can transition into the later game just fine) and are arguably imbalanced? his job was to win and he did that. by now he has also shown that he is a solid player in straight up play with a race that has had hard times

#1 : I uninstalled sc2 and stopped following sc2 just because if I watch some cool matches I always want to play this game, so for now I limited my attention on QL exclusively, tsl gs and other stuff with laddering just kept ruining my all schedule with anything for some past months, following quake only gives me a shitloads of additional time

#2 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Morrow
here you've got all his accomplishments so far, and for me the only one that matters is beating socke in the match for 3rd place at HomeStory cup

About all ins - for me playing style like this is just bitchy and he had no way to transition out of it, if idra would hold on for a bit more he would beat him badly with hydra/roach or mutas, and that wasnt opportunity for terrans but just a simple example of imbalance, otherwise they wouldnt be nerfed in 1.1.
I was just too sick of that little scrub in gsl who stayed there for a ridiculous period of time by winning games with scv/marine all -ins, I dont mind playing like that for some psychological ways but doing this all match long is for me just like "omfg im shitting my pants cause I know he will roflstomp me in straight forward game I need to all in like a little bitch and hope he wont hold it, so good im terran cuz its op" <- this mindset indicates for me someone who is just a cunt in my eyes, that's the other reason I stopped following sc2 - I preffer watching games where the winner is player that plays actually BETTER on even ground for both sides.
QL is still not perfect, but for me its closer to this point than sc2 (oh hi toss collosi/warpgate deathballs.... Was toss player too, just sayin' )

what about his second place finish at assembly?
look at the list of players http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Assembly_Winter_2011

youre probably the the kind of guy that whines about rapha winning aswell

allright, I can give him a credit for this assembly cup, didnt watched it at all, had barely time to follow gsl and mlg, with some addition of d9 shows and some casts on utube ;)
Anyway he still seems to be for me a player of smaller calliber comparing to rest of the line-up, sorry ;p

About rapha - I respect him as a player, because of his brain heavy style, the only thing that I can complain is that his games were always quite boring to watch for me (besides of quite dramatic ending of t7 on iem4 against cooller, but this game was entertaining mostly because of anton, tho)
It doesnt apply to his performance at iem V world (were somehow he seemed to be one of the most offensive players out there, especially cooller-avek match was disappointing), also liked his games at ugc, his style is a bit changed (prolly due to combined changes with movement and increasing hitbox size, that's my guess)

Easy money for oGs MC!

this, I expect some fast 2-0's and 3-0's in his games, just like yesterday.
Also basing on Boxer's previous performance he got chance to win with morrow and tlo XD

boxer : /

Go Kratoss - The Boss!

MC and White-Ra recently had a rematch in TSL3..I hope we get to see yet another confrontation :P

pvp :/
also, i dont wanna see white ra lose. so if the happens it should be in the finals ;)

white-ra is my fellow homie and he's awesome, but korean monster mc was just better that's all

Yep, but MC is beatable. Jinro's done it, MarineKing's done it and White-Ra's done it too. I just hope White-Ra does it for the lulz but it probably won't happen.

no way, go morrow!

no way, go idra!

wtf 2gd

wtf

yeah you might notice its 30,000 viewers.. thats without most of the americans watching either

and 16k is nothing.. the gsl is around 90k for first place
which has had quite a few euro and american making it pretty far, up to the semi finals twice for a swedish player

better this than the bum version of him during ugc -.-

it's ok, cuz what they didn't show, that he actually wears no shoes

oh god :D
back to the mineral line...

teamliquid exploding in love for 2GD

white-ra <3

Grubby's late nights private stream gets more viewers than Quake during IEM/DH/anything

It says much about the community and its health.

34123 idling on the stream right now. Just another Starcraft 2 stream!

What I meant was that single ladder stream game from a famous player gets sometimes even more viewers than Quake during huge tournament which is kinda ubber sad :-S

Compare teamliquid to esreality.

That's too big a price to pay. :asd

I know what you meant. I just threw out a number off of my screen to compare QL stream viewership to SC2, given that it's an invitational and kind of a prelude to DH in June!

WHITE-RA HWAITING!!!

fucking protoss again, how unexpected..

pvp boring for u?: )

yeah nothing as entertaining as a double 4gate..

1:0. give that little probe a medal... post mortem

the raaaaaaaaaaa
come on, slap him 3:0

11 mins later, this statements looks bad already :D

still hoping white ra can get his revenge for the tsl

2 mins later, this statements looks bad already

okay 14mins later and it looks even worse
damn god protoss takes it again

i don't believe it :|

massive balls though to do such a crazy proxy at 2:2 in a 10k final of a lan

indeed...

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is DeMusliM really a muslim?

I've always wanted to know.