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because journalism is the pit of unnecessarily "literate"rtistic struggle

yeah we need more pro journalism, like the NY Times and stuff - utterly shitty sponsored one-sided propaganda like dat, yeah !

stfu, u dont even know anythin about the NY times

yes i dont even know anything, i agree

The NY Times is "sponsored one-sided propaganda"? Do you even read it?

He's probably thinking of Fox news. You know, the self-proclaimed 'fair and balanced' network. You know, the Rupert Murdoch American equivalent of Britain's 'News of the World'.

Broken glass "will cut your feet"? Do you even walk on it?

Try harder.

The concept of ESReality also became meaningless, as the website is now mainly used as a platform for advertising by tournament organizations.

The fuck this nigga talkin' bout?

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what tournaments

maybe he tried militia

he's talking about slasher making that newspost about the mlg showmatches ( he works for mlg ), the dh admins who are trusted users iirc, probably even xou given his relationship with esl instead of pure user submitted content like it used to be.

Basically he's trying to justify even pretending to be called a "journalist"

This.
If you look at the last real article it was the Cooler interview, and that was just a translation of a video from a russian site that got posted on the SK gaming site which was written by Thorin, who then submitted a short version of the interview here so you would have to goto the SK site so Thorin gets more views because he get's paid by SK to write articles for them, So he was just using us to get more views.

That still is before and after your explanation one the deepest reaches about ESR when it comes to talking from your ass.

When did I say xou, slasher or the dh guys' newsposts and stuff here are inappropriate ? I don't even mind when Thorin links to sk even though the only things he posts in the forums are either blindly pro sk or pure trolling.

I didn't mean you you, you. I meant that this guy is talking from his ass. I can't really tell which colon his head has reached, but deep enough to pass around statements built upon uneducated guesses of sites he doesn't regularly visit in an article complaining about the decline in journalism.

then stop confusing sleep deprivated people :D

That's the nontoxic-part of brain talking. You just need more dope or/and alcohol and you'll be fine

Hiltscher

100% true.

Why are you still visiting ESR then?

Esport journalism never took off, because esport is still very much a close nit niche community, with exception to Korea!

Europe and the US are massive gaming markets, but most of the gamers aren't competitive gamers, even if they think they are!

So better wording would be "esport journalism declining" post slasher and wheat era!

apparently u were not around for Izn0 and XSR...

"The concept of ESReality also became meaningless, as the website is now mainly used as a platform for advertising by tournament organizations."

Fail article.

What is wrong about that statement? Look at the main page, its mostly for some random/shitty tournaments that only same old pros enter and win, mixed with some random retarded ffa tournaments mixed with 1-2 quick translated interviews. He's not too off.

He considers Huffington Post a success, a website where the average reader IQ is likely below 10. He can stfu forever, thanks.

The issue with community involvement is that it is forced upon the community in incompatible ways. Wikipedia serves an entirely different function than ESReality. ESReality isn't about reference to knowledge, it is about news and discussion regarding hobbies and competitive scenes. The ease of web development has resulted in a very fractured social scene for gaming. ESReality is more similar to Reddit and Slashdot than to the New York Times and Wikipedia. The site is useful for compiling links to other sites and giving users a central area to discuss topics from a multitude of sources without necessitating registration on each site.

Of course allowing the community to contribute columns and articles about gaming will fail. A community possesses social memory, and there is only so long it will tolerate regurgitation of the same few creative topics and styles, just as any other culture will move through different executions of various forms of art.

ESReality and gaming do not need some journalistic standards, but do need some clarification of intents and goals. This site should not be focused on enhancing the quality of discussion or reporting of competitive gaming, rather it should be focused on allowing and promoting discussion, whereby the process of natural selection will result in the success of hardy, survival-ready social concepts to be passed on and further evolved.

ESReality is more similar to Reddit and Slashdot than to the New York Times and Wikipedia.

I don't see why people can't understand this.

Because it used to be both.

Tried to be.

Esreality reddit and slashdot to an extent are all community driven, thats all that needs to be said.
Slashdot is an hybrid though that provides valid credible news like some newspapers would with some regulation,
whereas reddit has little to no regulation and most news on there is just for entertainment only.

There is 1 major difference though, esr concentrates on gaming only, whereas the other sites covering everything.

They are all just news aggregation services. ESR is meant to be a community hub, not the central source for any specific topic.

imho he should rename himself to affenhirn..

what the heck is this guy talking about? esr failing at what? its users not getting to play shit games like CoD or LoL? if you consider that quake's player numbers are dropping ever since the cpl made painkiller its prime game (after that the number of quake tournaments went to zero if i remember correctly) this site is pretty populated. also note that at some point in time some mmo for retards was released and that helped quite a lot too.



for the non-german speaking ppl here:
first of all: learn it ffs :>
2nd: Affentod translates to monkey death (..) and therefore i thought monkeybrain would be an appropriate name for him :>

I don't really feel any need for some fancy "e-sports journalism".
We have news, we have comments and forum, there is tournament coverage and we get statements from players when some big news happen. I don't see anything useful beyond that.

how will there be "e-sports journalism" when there are barely any games left worth mentioning?

You're right, Starcraft 2 is probably the only game it's actually worth it to be a journalist for. Quakers do it out of passion, not like most of the idiots casting and shit for Starcraft 2 who just shift from popular game to popular game to stay relevant, hello djwheat.

Why don't you get yourself some children to support and see how far that moral high horse carries you.

You missed the real reason to bash him : he apparently misses one of the people who should not have been allowed next to a mic once 2005 kicked in.

There was some point lost in translation. He actually did say something like "the site failed as in beeing a successful (sustainable) concept". He did not just say meaningless.

"succeeded temporarily"

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