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Do away with tiers or.... (56 comments)
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Posted by raythenoob @ 09:43 CDT, 19 July 2011 - iMsg
http://imageshack.us/f/263/incubusfag2.jpg/

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/matches/IN...fd90/ctf/1
Edited by raythenoob at 09:43 CDT, 19 July 2011 - 7604 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 09:49 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By B2L - Barrysworld boenk 
lol spacemaps



#care
<< Comment #12 @ 10:25 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #1
i didn't know dueling keeps was a space map
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1048/incubus8.jpg
<< Comment #45 @ 21:28 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By B2L - Barrysworld boenk  - Reply to #12
oh noes, ctf1

#care
<< Comment #50 @ 07:42 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #45
let me guess /ctf care

oh wait... you'll just disagree with that and list off some ctf maps that are actually good and then i'll reply with more screenshots from those maps you like and then you'll say you made a mistake and change the subject and call me a noob and then i'll call you a noob back and then there will be anarchy and then... ya w/e lol

/care
<< Comment #53 @ 08:42 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By B2L - Barrysworld boenk  - Reply to #50
yup, ql ctf is crap because the maps are either bad or extremely old, some were modified by id to get from good to high class meh (w2 is just shit now) and with the random netcode escaping with the flag is a bit like a lottery


therefore:

/care
<< Comment #2 @ 09:51 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By lolfly lol frs 
or? you'll post a screenshot that no one gives a shit about?
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<< Comment #10 @ 10:21 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #2
tierslummign? what's the big deal? it's not driving noobs away? these aren't the droids you're looking for. move along. move along

go ask those 7 how they felt about that game
<< Comment #3 @ 09:52 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Hungary onlyDM6forever 
retard
<< Comment #6 @ 10:15 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #3
incubus? another alt? say it aint so
<< Comment #56 @ 09:19 CDT, 21 July 2011 >>
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By Canada-Ontario KittenIgnition  - Reply to #6
I'm INCubus too!
<< Comment #4 @ 10:01 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx 
For someone who doesn't care anymore about the game you spend a lot of time into stalking some randoms. Nothin else going on in your "life"?
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<< Comment #7 @ 10:20 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #4
incubus pay you by the blowjob or are you too scared to stand up for the 7 noobs that got slummed to death in that game?
Edited by raythenoob at 10:36 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #13 @ 10:42 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #7
I was talking about you. I guess I hit a nerve otherwise you wouldn't change the subject. We all now that mr over 2 month playtime boy hasn't got his admin spot and is on a rant mission because he doesn't know what he should do with his newly gained freetime. The sad thing is you are not even trolling. You are dead serious about that stuff which makes the whole thing really enjoyable :D
<< Comment #14 @ 10:46 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #13
so you think slumming those 7 new players is good for the game? please elaborate. thanks
Edited by raythenoob at 10:47 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #15 @ 10:53 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #14
I don't give a fuck. Got better things to do. I let you do the job knight of justice.
Edited by ffx at 10:54 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #16 @ 10:55 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #15
this is important. This kind of shit drives new players away. Why is that so hard for you to believe?
<< Comment #17 @ 11:01 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #16
I'm more or less a new player. I won't cry if I get the chance to play better players. I never cried about facing a pro in duel/ca/tdmpickup. Fuck I once played an obvious cheater (daddy05) and I didn't give a flying fuck. I got mad for a split sec and insulted him and then moved on :o.

tldr I don't care about stuff like that, it's not my problem.
<< Comment #18 @ 11:03 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #17
now imagine playing that same player in 90% of your games for the next 6 months as he stacks teams against you. Dont even lie, you wouldnt' like it one bit and no you wouldnt' improve as much as you would playing people at or near your skill level.

it's not your problem? dude this game might fucking die if we dont' solve this issue.... incubus doesn't just do this once in a while... take a closer look at his stats and games. he does it every fucking pub game. He has a whole clan of people (clan feast) that are basically mimicking his actions.
Edited by raythenoob at 11:05 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #22 @ 11:16 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #18
First of all I don't play space ctf and I never will.
Second there is shuffle and I don't really care whether I win in ca or not.
Dont even lie, you wouldnt' like it one bit and no you wouldnt' improve as much as you would playing people at or near your skill level.

I improved the most when I played better people. I got crushed by some pros and I learned a lot. Played a second and third game against them and the score gap got closer. I wouldn't mind if I had to play only semi pros from now on.

it's not your problem? dude this game might fucking die if we dont' solve this issue.... incubus doesn't just do this once in a while... take a closer look at his stats and games

Yeah it will die because of incubus :D. Fucking retard. As long as I can play the occasional duel vs a bunch of people I will play the game. I don't give a fuck about the rest and especially the American scene.

/care
<< Comment #23 @ 11:30 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #22
incubus has a lot of followers that mimick his actions (r3zurrector, lordwoods, mrgreen_, adrenal1ne, sabertooth, kujoe, s7e, candyass, av8r, lollercopter, avenged, everybodypoops, etc etc etc etc). It has helped destroy the ctf na scene. A scene that once took part at quakecon in 2009, now not so much... now some of those very people are stuck playing tdm. You're seriously clueless and shouldn't speak about this issue if you dont' know what's going on in our scene; Retard (see wut i did thar)

ah that's what i thought. Another euro dueler who thinks quake live revolves around them. Keep thinking that dude. Keep thinking the other modes don't matter and that other regions (australia, so.america, no.america, etc) don't matter either. You're still playing duel because of those other modes. Duel on its' own couldnt' support this game. Enjoy your 16 slot quakecon tournament. lol

p.s: space ctf isn't a ca map
Edited by raythenoob at 11:37 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #26 @ 11:38 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #23
Why should I care? I got a few buddies I can play with and as long as they play I will too. Tdmpickup is running better than ever and lately I even played 2v2 tdm on public servers at 2 am.
Ql isn't dying in europe ;)

ps: I know that space ctf isn't a ca map. Maybe you should read more carefully. Wanna duel to figure out who is the noob :D?
<< Comment #31 @ 11:53 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #26
i know you're not a noob. Unlike you i know my place in the game. You obviously seem to think you're nothing special. You should probably work on that self esteem a bit then. But as far as you thinking that it doesn't matter because incubus isn't a euro and its' not happening on duel servers is beyond naive.

This game is not just based on duel man. If the other gamemodes shut down activity wise, duel wont' exist any more. Do you not get that? You're playing this game because of the snoozefest happening in ca. Not because of duel. Quake live won't die if duel dies. If ca dies however... (because the majority of players in ql play ca, NOT DUEL!!)
Edited by raythenoob at 11:55 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #37 @ 13:10 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By 004 jamalz  - Reply to #26
Not caring about ctf in NA is like not caring about your neighbors house being on fire.

Sure it might look and sound insignificant, but then you quickly realize that 'oh fuck, I LIVE IN A TOWN HOUSE, CONNECTING THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.'

If his house isnt put out, that shit will spread to me.

The same shit is happening to quakelive. The collapse of NA, means your ass is next. No tournaments in NA, no spectators for sponsors to sell themselves to, and thus quakelive is no more.

Don't sit there like a bitch on a throne, watching your kingdom burn. Grab a fucking fire hose and help out.

And don't bother replying to raytheshit if you are just going to talk shit and not think about your responses.
Edited by jamalz at 13:10 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #20 @ 11:13 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #17
also:
http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/ffx

this you?

30% overall total accuracy? you don't look new to me. Youv'e also been around for at least a year and based on that acc you prob had an alt account before that (or still do)
<< Comment #24 @ 11:31 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #20
That is me and this is my only active account. I used a different one when I started with ql last year. I just created a new one because I wanted that nick and I didn't knew that you could change it.
Even my old account had 26% acc though I had no experience with 1v1 fps. But I don't think that 30% is anything special. At least with the current hitboxes.
I even had a break for several months as I got only umts internet for several months.
<< Comment #25 @ 11:36 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #24
so you're not a noob.

oh and:

But I don't think that 30% is anything special

that's the same accuracy as outlaw. lol dude.
http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/outlaw

you're not even a good liar.

gg
Edited by raythenoob at 11:41 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #28 @ 11:45 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #25
Huh? Were did I lie?
This is my first account http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/ff_x
And yeah I was a fucking scrub back than. I just pulled myself together and focused on duel as ca is a snoozefest.
Btw. most of my duel games were vs philian who started to play ql with me and had also no duel experiences whatsoever...
<< Comment #30 @ 11:49 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #28
you just said that 30% is nothing special. You gave yourself away with that. Again, outlaw has the same accuracy as you. So you're not even close to being a noob.
<< Comment #32 @ 11:57 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #30
Yeah but I was a noob? Take a look at how many duels I had with my old account and then I played only duels with the new account in the beginning.
Ofc I'm not a noob anymore but it's not really my fault that I can actually aim. Btw. acc doesn't say anything in duel at least not as much as it does in other modes.
<< Comment #33 @ 12:00 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #32
I'm more or less a new player.
Ofc I'm not a noob anymore

gg dude, jsut stop talking . enough lies for a day

you tried to no avail to scurry the issue. What you do in duel on euro servers has absolutely nothing to do with the ctf playerbase (in the us or in europe). Why even bother posting. just go away now
Edited by raythenoob at 12:02 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #34 @ 12:33 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #33
I'm playing ql active for a bit more than half a year. I started to play last summer had a break because I moved to vienna without having internet for the 2-3 months. Then I got the crappiest provider ever (upc) and wasn't able to play for almost another 3-4 months. I warped in my first two bundesliga games and had to take timeouts. I even wanted to quit as playing lag free between 18-24 a clock was almost impossible.
So I don't know what the fuck you want? Where did I lie?
In the beginning I was so really bad. Couldn't time a single item, dodging was a burrowed word and my rocket aim was just lolz. Not really my fault that I improved quite quickly but that doesn't make me a good duel player. We might have a different understanding about good. Good duel players for me are twister and dksl.
The thing is you see my acc and compare me to walter :D. That tells me that you have no fucking clue about duel. Cypher only has 29% what a fucking scrub ...

Unlike you i know my place in the game. You obviously seem to think you're nothing special. You should probably work on that self esteem a bit then.
I'm just realistic and honest.
<< Comment #35 @ 12:39 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #34
TIERSLUMMING ISN'T HAPPENING ON DUEL... BECAUSE....WAIT FOR IT....
IT'S A TEAMMODE....

wow first person on /ignore

congrats
Edited by raythenoob at 12:40 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #36 @ 12:48 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Austria - Wien ffx  - Reply to #35
:D
<< Comment #40 @ 15:32 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By United States of America function9  - Reply to #15
I don't give a fuck. Got better things to do. I let you do the job knight of justice.

Edited by function9 at 00:53 CDT, 20 July 2011
<< Comment #5 @ 10:09 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Switzerland - Schwyz brz 
ray on da case powpow

<< Comment #8 @ 10:20 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By United States of America T1E 
why can't you accept that incubus is a noob and in the right tier where he belongs?
<< Comment #11 @ 10:22 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #8
he's not tier 2
http://imageshack.us/f/687/tier2righttttt.jpg/
Edited by raythenoob at 10:52 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #27 @ 11:40 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Latvia deathinfire  - Reply to #11
you're right, incubus is a tier slumming shitty. now what?
<< Comment #29 @ 11:46 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #27
we all know this, the problem revolves around the fact that it is driving noobs away. now what?

1. do we take care of the tierslummers?
2. fire id management who won't fix the issue?
3. ignore the problem and let more players leave the game?
4. laugh at the noobs and blame them?
5. /care because it's not duel or euros?
Edited by raythenoob at 11:46 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #9 @ 10:21 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob 
inb4 ""hahha serves those noobs right trying to play in their own tier .... ""
<< Comment #19 @ 11:13 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Canada-Alberta pks 
lmao raythenoob so jealous of incubus, it's just pathetic.
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<< Comment #21 @ 11:14 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #19
ya man i'm jealous of his tierslumming ways. it's hard stacking teams. going 72-2 against 7 tier 2 players is seriously amazingggggggggggg
<< Comment #38 @ 13:17 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By 004 jamalz 
you've got to change your name. people aren't even responding to your criticisms anymore, they are just seeing your name and disagreeing with you for the sole reason that it is you, even if their argument is completely fucking stupid.

I blame you for this though, focus your fucking drive into 1 area, not 200. Don't interweave your fucking stances, make them single and concise so people can attack 1 part alone and then u can shut them down systematically.
Edited by jamalz at 13:21 CDT, 19 July 2011
<< Comment #39 @ 15:20 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By United States of America Fattywhale  - Reply to #38
Ray should just stop posting here. It's pointless. Yeah, tierslumming is bad, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FROM US RAY?

Just answer that question please! Don't go off on some tangent with me and call me shitty or say that I don't care, or add some stupid Star Wars reference about droids, just answer, what the fuck do you think the ESR community will/can do?
<< Comment #42 @ 16:11 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By GTV Toin Coss  - Reply to #39
he obviously wants us to travel to wherever incubus/synceror live and kill them
<< Comment #48 @ 07:04 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #42
thats' a bit harsh. You can't kill something that has no life.
<< Comment #49 @ 07:10 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #39
SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT. Do what me, cooloutac, and others are doing. Talk openly about the tierslummers and the effect its' having on the new playerbase, which dont' forget, is placed in directly with those creeps the moment they make an account on quake live.

If there was such a thing as autobalance and/or if the community actually did something to combat stacking than this wouldn't be so much of an issue but now we have 7 things going against us.

1) new players put in tier 3
2) tier 4 players making alt accounts to slum lower tiers
3) tier 4 players able to play down
4) tier 2-3 players able to play up
5) ctf games can start 4v2 or worse
6) tierslummers and stackers are revered and idolized
7) people have the ability to make an unlimited amount of alt accounts.

That's what you can do fattywhale. Attacking me won't stop the 7 things above dissapear. I'm just the messenger. I'm not here on esr bitter over some stupid fucking modship on the ql forum as syncerror might have you think. I already told you guys why i was banned, because i caught him harboring guys like av8r/incubus, guys invited by syncerror in early june 2007 who played regularly with syncerror and his family. After which, i told both him and ordus they were idiots for protecting and listening to incubus.

Because at the end of the day all that really matters is that this game has a future, and right now, based on a number of events (no advertising, ql being dropped, loss of playerbase, increase in cheating, loss of features, bad priorities, no communication, lack of vision (does anyone even really know what id intends to do with this game past quakecon?), etc etc etc.... it does not have such a future, a bleak one at best and that's with q5 included.

I don't believe syncerror and his team are purposely sabotaging ql either (for the record) but i do believe they are sabotaging their own game by making piss poor decisions. They're letting friendships,sponsors,relationships get in the way of their decision making process. They need to stick with their guns and stop trying to cater every single playerbase. Either they go with their original plan (making it an e-sport) or they make it casual (dumbing it down even further). But doing both as they're doing now is just pointless and wastes everyones time.
Edited by raythenoob at 07:44 CDT, 20 July 2011
<< Comment #54 @ 09:10 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By United States of America Fattywhale  - Reply to #49
Be like you and CooloutAC? You guys are looked at as the biggest retards on the internet. No thanks.
<< Comment #46 @ 07:01 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #38
That's alright, i just laugh at them.
<< Comment #41 @ 16:03 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By United States of America goodbye_world 
Want me to save Quake Live?
<< Comment #43 @ 16:46 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By zerg vedic  - Reply to #41
mercy killing?
<< Comment #44 @ 19:10 CDT, 19 July 2011 >>
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By United States of America goodbye_world  - Reply to #43
I had a quote, but you ruined it. Thanks.
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<< Comment #47 @ 07:02 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #41
it can be saved?
<< Comment #51 @ 07:46 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By ET miNd 
haha, lol @ being mad after getting owned.

seriously, who the fuck cares? ur a fucking sad nerd with ur nonstop spam on esr, how bout fucking off?

Posts: 1266 , Registered: 5 Oct 2010

just hilarious.
<< Comment #52 @ 07:59 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Argentina raythenoob  - Reply to #51
ya man he owned me in 2009... ya i'm raging about that 2 years later...

oh wait you didn't look at the screenshot..... oh wait thats' right i wasn't even in the game... oh wait... you're just a troll....

lol noob
<< Comment #55 @ 09:52 CDT, 20 July 2011 >>
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By Unset amOKchen 
I don't play ctf but CA tier4, havent seen a single grey server for months.
Thoose that are dont appear on my list at all, and if i try to join a friends game on lower tier im not allowed to join at all.

So im guessing tier4 is maybe to easy to get in ctf? since im pretty sure that is where they must be playing.

Even on Tier4 there is a huge difference in skill.

Or if you already have an account:
 
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