can't be worse than the g5 anyways

if you dont mind manually setting 500/1000 hz you can't go wrong with the 518 , which weighs a bit less than the 510 (slightly better sensor but almost impossible to find a new one nowadays)

how come it worked that long, my g5 died 3-4 years ago :S

Get G400 no doubt!

Alright I'll pick up a G400 unless anymore suggestions appear. I'm assuming talent > qck+ for it?

Qck > Talent
Personal prefrence really. Talent is faster / Qck has lots of friction.
I see lag on screen when I play with Talent which Doesn't happen on Qck for 500 or 1000hz

prediction *barf* :-/

Alternatives then? Has to have side buttons as I can't stand browsing without them.

No offense mate but there are at least 5 threads in recent memory discussing good mice. One of them is which mice are 'perfect'.

Most of these 'perfect' mice don't have side buttons tho.

Deathadder

Deathadder.

Or rightclick -> forward/back (imo a little faster and easier anyway)

not a problem for many :~



look at 3.0 mx518, mx400, deathadder for that size of mouse, 3.0/deathadder being a bit bigger judging from the pics

It's down to the DA and the G400

I agree with you. As much as I like the abyssus and wmo having to click the forward and back button is not worth it. I say go for the g400. Just don't install drivers.

i dont wanna make new thread i have g400 bought today :) i like it.

But still i have new mouse and inever had mousepad and idont know anything about pads. So wich could be good for it. rzr speed edition maybe ?

G500 here with Goliathus control (low sens/2k DPI, with no accel tho), works like a charm. So speed might be good as well.

http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/gestures/

so my mx518 broke and when i went to the shop i bought it from to to get a new one they told me they don't sell them anymore. they told me it will be replaced g400 and offered me a deal to get a new g400 for free my broken mx518. is this a good deal? are there no negative changes in the g400 compared to mx518? sensor works the same just has more dpi etc?

If its free I don't see how it could be a bad deal. Free is pretty cheap.

it's never cheap enough

People go off on one about "OH NOES I DON'T NEED HIGH DPI AND FLASHY LIGHTS"

So don't buy them for that then. At the end of the day, pretty much all 'gaming' mice have decent enough sensors that they won't hinder you. It only really comes down to shape etc. Obviously if you get a mouse with jitter or some shit, then it's junk, but prediction? Seriously? Some of the best aimers around use mice with prediction. Get over it. It's not going to hinder you

Just go for whatever shape you like. G400 looks alright and I hear it's alright so go for it

Whine :P

and cheese

i'd go as far as to say that at least 50% of the so called gaming mice have fucking horrible sensors

Has logitech fixed the windows 7 driver issues with the g400?

I'm considering buying one, but I'm unsure as to how the drivers work. Can I set the hz / customize the dpi settings and they will keep when I do not have drivers on?

no they haven't but on the forums one of their employees finally responded and said a fix is coming soon. i think they banned my account too for rightfully bad mouthing them. and no you can't keep the hz and dpi without drivers. i tried hidusbf also and it didn't work.

Is logitech usually quick with their firmware updates or does "soon" mean a few months?'

it's not a firmware update, just a driver update. i don't know how long it will take, most likely a few weeks

Logitech are pretty good releasing drivers.
And always thumbs up to their support also.

is that sarcasm? it took them two months just to acknowledge the jitter issue

Nop its not.
They had some issues on G9x also and they fixed it with new Firmware.
They will fix it in time.

Ok I have this mouse for 3 days now and the feeling is really really great with a very high malfunction speed (they announced 140 ips) and no pos/neg accel (not noticeable to me)
You can go 400 / 800 dpi and 1000hz out of the box without any drivers.
The sensor used in the mouse is the S3095 (http://www.f-paper.com/?i715960_8), an updated sensor based on the ADNS-3090 from Avago.
The only issue to me is the prediction... If they can do a G410 with an updated firmware it would be the best mouse on the market for sure.

G400 had same amount of prediction as Mx518 which kinda sucks for quakers. But I heard if you install drivers it reduce prediction and it jitters? Have you experienced that?

I didn't install drivers but from what I read it doesn't reduce prediction, but it jitters yes. They found the problem so they will release a new driver soon.
By the way it's quite useless to install the drivers since you have all you need without.

Depends on what you're used to.

I got mine today.
Software is terrible. If you want same Dpi (non stock DPI) as Mx518 its not the same.
W/O software 400/800 dpi are nice and feels same as Mx518
If you want 900 DPI its not the same as Mx518 it feels different.

Mx518 / DA 900 dpi feels same I need same sensitivity in game.
But with G400/software omg its feels like it has 940 Dpi or something and it feels like it has some accel. I am not sure. I didn't feel it like Mx518.

Beware software is still very buggy. Stock Dpi are really nice.

how heavy is this mouse

105 grams according to a Logitech rep.
101 grams according to my scale.

On my scale it is 105, just like the Logitech rep said.

Then mine is off :D

How heavy this mouse is compared to g500 / mx518? I find both of them too heavy. How good stock feet are?

What mouse are you using now?

G500 is 120g (without weights) Logitech confirmed
G400 is 105g Logitech confirmed
Mx518 is 105g Logitech confirmed
WMO is around 79g
IO1.1 is around 86g
3.0 is around 10xg
Abyssus is around 67g
Spawn is around 85g
Deathadder BE 3.5G is around 113g
Deathadder 3G is around 109g
Have no clue how much the 3.5G version with lights weighs.

Stock feet aren't 100% teflon but they have a decent feel.

The standard DA 3.5G is *drummrolls* 112g. :-)

where is the G100 for the rest of the world :(

Only if it didn't have angle snapping.. :@
I wonder if we could put a new sensor in it, shame the 3095 is Logitech exclusive.

If the G100 really doesn't have prediction, I guess the G100 could be a good candidate for sensor donor - not only for the G400.

I got a G400 as a replacement for a MX518 that became damaged over time. I use it at work now, so no drivers, it feels nice, definitely very well made. I think it would be too heavy for me for gaming, also prediction, much prefer WMO.

how is the new logitech setpoint 6.32 driver?

does it fix the bug?

EDIT: and Logitech Gaming Software 8.12.030

Nop but it has reduced.
Good thing is that you can now set it to 500hz for 400/800/1800/3500dpi in drivers without any problem.

But prediction still on?

Yes its still on!

I know this is a bit necro, but in case anyone finds this thread looking for information on the G400:

Prediction/Angle Snapping has been removed by logitech!

Info here:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2207630

http://www.overclock.net/t/1197269/g400-angle...t_16204105

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming...d-p/763727


This is without a doubt the best quality mouse for the price. Just a heads up.